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So you think George W. Bush is not a conservative?
SOTU transcript ^ | 1/22/04

Posted on 01/22/2004 7:07:09 AM PST by Wolfstar

ED. NOTE: On Tuesday evening, January 20, 2004, the President of the United States gave one of the most conservative State of the Union addresses in at least a generation. For a SOTU speech, it had a remarkably short spending wish list. Instead, it had passages such as those excerpted below — none of which would have been spoken by a Democrat or liberal (i.e., Leftist), or even a "RINO." Check it out:

[BEGIN EXCERPTS: Bold/underscore emphasis by Wolfstar]

Our greatest responsibility is the active defense of the American people. Twenty-eight months have passed since September 11th, 2001 — over two years without an attack on American soil. And it is tempting to believe that the danger is behind us. That hope is understandable, comforting — and false.

[SNIP]

The once all-powerful ruler of Iraq was found in a hole, and now sits in a prison cell. Of the top 55 officials of the former regime, we have captured or killed 45. Our forces are on the offensive, leading over 1,600 patrols a day and conducting an average of 180 raids a week. We are dealing with these thugs in Iraq, just as surely as we dealt with Saddam Hussein's evil regime.

Because of American leadership and resolve, the world is changing for the better. Last month, the leader of Libya voluntarily pledged to disclose and dismantle all of his regime's weapons of mass destruction programs, including a uranium enrichment project for nuclear weapons.

[SNIP]

Nine months of intense negotiations involving the United States and Great Britain succeeded with Libya, while 12 years of diplomacy with Iraq did not. And one reason is clear: For diplomacy to be effective, words must be credible, and no one can now doubt the word of America.

Many of our troops are listening tonight. And I want you and your families to know: America is proud of you. And my administration, and this Congress, will give you the resources you need to fight and win the war on terror.

I know that some people question if America is really in a war at all. They view terrorism more as a crime, a problem to be solved mainly with law enforcement and indictments. After the World Trade Center was first attacked in 1993, some of the guilty were indicted and tried and convicted, and sent to prison. But the matter was not settled. The terrorists were still training and plotting in other nations, and drawing up more ambitious plans. After the chaos and carnage of September the 11th, it is not enough to serve our enemies with legal papers. The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States, and war is what they got.

[SNIP]

Some critics have said our duties in Iraq must be internationalized. This particular criticism is hard to explain to our partners in Britain, Australia, Japan, South Korea, the Philippines, Thailand, Italy, Spain, Poland, Denmark, Hungary, Bulgaria, Ukraine, Romania, the Netherlands — (applause) — Norway, El Salvador, and the 17 other countries that have committed troops to Iraq. As we debate at home, we must never ignore the vital contributions of our international partners, or dismiss their sacrifices.

From the beginning, America has sought international support for our operations in Afghanistan and Iraq, and we have gained much support. There is a difference, however, between leading a coalition of many nations, and submitting to the objections of a few. America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our country.

We also hear doubts that democracy is a realistic goal for the greater Middle East, where freedom is rare. Yet it is mistaken, and condescending, to assume that whole cultures and great religions are incompatible with liberty and self-government. I believe that God has planted in every human heart the desire to live in freedom. And even when that desire is crushed by tyranny for decades, it will rise again.

[SNIP]

In the last three years, adversity has also revealed the fundamental strengths of the American economy. We have come through recession, and terrorist attack, and corporate scandals, and the uncertainties of war. And because you acted to stimulate our economy with tax relief, this economy is strong, and growing stronger.

You have doubled the child tax credit from $500 to $1,000, reduced the marriage penalty, begun to phase out the death tax, reduced taxes on capital gains and stock dividends, cut taxes on small businesses, and you have lowered taxes for every American who pays income taxes.

Americans took those dollars and put them to work, driving this economy forward. The pace of economic growth in the third quarter of 2003 was the fastest in nearly 20 years; new home construction, the highest in almost 20 years; home ownership rates, the highest ever. Manufacturing activity is increasing. Inflation is low. Interest rates are low. Exports are growing. Productivity is high, and jobs are on the rise.

These numbers confirm that the American people are using their money far better than government would have — and you were right to return it.

[SNIP]

We're requiring higher standards [in schools]. We are regularly testing every child on the fundamentals. We are reporting results to parents, and making sure they have better options when schools are not performing.

[SNIP]

We must continue to pursue an aggressive, pro-growth economic agenda. Congress has some unfinished business on the issue of taxes. The tax reductions you passed are set to expire. Unless you act — (applause) — unless you act — unless you act, the unfair tax on marriage will go back up. Unless you act, millions of families will be charged $300 more in federal taxes for every child. Unless you act, small businesses will pay higher taxes. Unless you act, the death tax will eventually come back to life. Unless you act, Americans face a tax increase. What Congress has given, the Congress should not take away. For the sake of job growth, the tax cuts you passed should be permanent.

Our agenda for jobs and growth must help small business owners and employees with relief from needless federal regulation, and protect them from junk and frivolous lawsuits.

Consumers and businesses need reliable supplies of energy to make our economy run — so I urge you to pass legislation to modernize our electricity system, promote conservation, and make America less dependent on foreign sources of energy.

My administration is promoting free and fair trade to open up new markets for America's entrepreneurs and manufacturers and farmers — to create jobs for American workers. Younger workers should have the opportunity to build a nest egg by saving part of their Social Security taxes in a personal retirement account. We should make the Social Security system a source of ownership for the American people.

[SNIP]

In two weeks, I will send you a budget that funds the war, protects the homeland, and meets important domestic needs, while limiting the growth in discretionary spending to less than 4 percent. This will require that Congress focus on priorities, cut wasteful spending, and be wise with the people's money. By doing so, we can cut the deficit in half over the next five years.

Tonight, I also ask you to reform our immigration laws so they reflect our values and benefit our economy.

[SNIP]

I oppose amnesty, because it would encourage further illegal immigration, and unfairly reward those who break our laws. My temporary worker program will preserve the citizenship path for those who respect the law, while bringing millions of hardworking men and women out from the shadows of American life.

[ED. NOTE: The precedent for guest worker programs goes back at least to the Eisenhower administration.]

[SNIP]

In January of 2006, seniors can get prescription drug coverage under Medicare. For a monthly premium of about $35, most seniors who do not have that coverage today can expect to see their drug bills cut roughly in half. Under this reform, senior citizens will be able to keep their Medicare just as it is, or they can choose a Medicare plan that fits them best — just as you, as members of Congress, can choose an insurance plan that meets your needs. And starting this year, millions of Americans will be able to save money tax-free for their medical expenses in a health savings account.

[SNIP]

On the critical issue of health care, our goal is to ensure that Americans can choose and afford private health care coverage that best fits their individual needs.

[SNIP]

Small businesses should be able to band together and negotiate for lower insurance rates, so they can cover more workers with health insurance. I urge you to pass association health plans. I ask you to give lower-income Americans a refundable tax credit that would allow millions to buy their own basic health insurance.

[SNIP]

To protect the doctor-patient relationship, and keep good doctors doing good work, we must eliminate wasteful and frivolous medical lawsuits. And tonight I propose that individuals who buy catastrophic health care coverage, as part of our new health savings accounts, be allowed to deduct 100 percent of the premiums from their taxes.

A government-run health care system is the wrong prescription. By keeping costs under control, expanding access, and helping more Americans afford coverage, we will preserve the system of private medicine that makes America's health care the best in the world.

[SNIP]

One of the worst decisions our children can make is to gamble their lives and futures on drugs. Our government is helping parents confront this problem with aggressive education, treatment, and law enforcement. Drug use in high school has declined by 11 percent over the last two years. Four hundred thousand fewer young people are using illegal drugs than in the year 2001.

[SNIP]

A strong America must also value the institution of marriage. I believe we should respect individuals as we take a principled stand for one of the most fundamental, enduring institutions of our civilization. Congress has already taken a stand on this issue by passing the Defense of Marriage Act, signed in 1996 by President Clinton. That statute protects marriage under federal law as a union of a man and a woman, and declares that one state may not redefine marriage for other states.

Activist judges, however, have begun redefining marriage by court order, without regard for the will of the people and their elected representatives. On an issue of such great consequence, the people's voice must be heard. If judges insist on forcing their arbitrary will upon the people, the only alternative left to the people would be the constitutional process. Our nation must defend the sanctity of marriage.

[SNIP]

It's also important to strengthen our communities by unleashing the compassion of America's religious institutions. Religious charities of every creed are doing some of the most vital work in our country — mentoring children, feeding the hungry, taking the hand of the lonely. Yet government has often denied social service grants and contracts to these groups, just because they have a cross or a Star of David or a crescent on the wall. By executive order, I have opened billions of dollars in grant money to competition that includes faith-based charities. Tonight I ask you to codify this into law, so people of faith can know that the law will never discriminate against them again.

[SNIP]

The momentum of freedom in our world is unmistakable — and it is not carried forward by our power alone. We can trust in that greater power who guides the unfolding of the years. And in all that is to come, we can know that His purposes are just and true.

[END EXCERPTS]


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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To: Nanodik
You evidently do, as you're the one saying Bush is more dangerous than a Democrat.
881 posted on 01/22/2004 11:35:56 AM PST by Howlin
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To: My2Cents
do you understand the term double entedre?

And there was a time when I was, but don't count on me changing my screen name just to suit you or anyone else.
882 posted on 01/22/2004 11:36:09 AM PST by Bikers4Bush (Constitution party here I come. Write in Tancredo in 04'!)
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To: Wolfstar




Now if only some of the more rabid Bush haters on FR would learn the same lesson.

"Bush haters?"

Dang, I knew I forgot something...

On "Bushbots" and "Bushbashers"


883 posted on 01/22/2004 11:36:45 AM PST by Sabertooth (Pakistani Illegal Aliens Deport Themselves - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1058591/posts)
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To: Final Authority
Bush signed CFR, and that was an egregious error.

But, I think he was victim of a series of political miscalculations.

I believe Bush made a deal with McCain, because McCain has not criticized Bush or his administration since the ink was dry on CFR.

I think Dubya said, 'John, if you can get that bill to my desk, I'll sign it, provided you never speak against me again.'

Bush didn't believe McCain could get that bill through a Republican Congress, but he did - and Dubya had to keep his word.

And, I don't think the Republican Congress thought Bush would ever sign the bill if it got to his desk.

The next miscalculation was Bush believing the SCOTUS would overturn the law on Constitutional grounds - but, they didn't !!

884 posted on 01/22/2004 11:37:08 AM PST by skip2myloo
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To: Final Authority
"As you said, he will clearly also sign legislation abridging free speech, as the CFR does. He is not conservative, a conservative conserves the Constitution. He clearly will not do that. He clearly is not upholding his oath of office. I call for his impeachment."

No, I didn't say that Bush would abridge free speech, and neither did the Supreme Court say that, though if you have an issue with CFR you might start *there* since they are supposed to be the watchdog for such things (or does that not advance your petty little agenda as much as directly bashing Bush per your handlers' instructions)?!

But just to chap both you and your activist friends, if you do somehow manage Bush's impeachment, please note that I will be smoking a fine stogie with President Dick Cheney, laughing our arses off at fools such as yourself who would engage in radical fringe activities such as calling for Bush's impeachment that wouldn't even advance your anti-Republican agenda in the slightest.

885 posted on 01/22/2004 11:37:15 AM PST by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: PhiKapMom
You shove it in our face if we don't believe 100% like the "true" conservatives then we are RINO's. This person is tired of taking that crap from you or anyone else on here.

Bravo. Straight and true.

886 posted on 01/22/2004 11:38:52 AM PST by Ophiucus
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To: Bikers4Bush
You are more worried about the direction of the country NOW than you were under xlinton because you KNEW that the country was being 'screwed?' Are you serious about that??

You are content to ignore the President's leadership in bringing back personal responsibility and morality?
You are content to ignore the strong pro-Life stance of the President?
You are content to ignore the rebuilding and reenergizing of the military?
You are content to ignore the strength of America abroad, the success in the war on terror, and the fundamental shift of petty dictators around the world because America has flexed the muscle of FREEDOM?

You may call yourself a conservative, Biker, but you don't share the VALUES of Conservatives.

This country went through eight years of hell, and you didn't even notice.

887 posted on 01/22/2004 11:38:57 AM PST by ohioWfan (BUSH 2004 - Leadership, Integrity, Morality)
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To: Southack
In the meantime, decades and decades will have passed...

A few more decades of the GOP and we won't be able to distinguish them from the Dumbacrats. Religious Freedom is already being assaulted by courts (while the spineless jellyfish of a GOP sits on their hands!). Ever hear of the Constitution - the exclusions clause (Art. 3, sec. 2). Congress has the authority and power to limit the courts jurisdiction on a number of issues - yet they don't do it. Why?

Our founding fathers pledged their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor for their moral principles. Name one single worthless politician who will do that today! Sacrifice and honor and virtue - you never even hear those words today.

If you want to settle for the status quo...go ahead. I won't. I'll use whatever voice I have to influence change and a bolder approach. If the Presdient and Congress don't FIGHT for what is right, who will?

888 posted on 01/22/2004 11:39:00 AM PST by exmarine ( sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Sabertooth
Actually, I do believe there is a considerable difference between the type of guest worker proposal of President Bush and the blanket "you can stay, here's your application for citizenship" amnesty President Reagan signed into law. The former does not automatically lead to citizenship, for example.

In any event, as I said, I'm opposed to the guest worker program. Like you, I don't believe it will enacted, but will do all I can to try to convince Congress to drop it altogether. However, for me national security in a post-9/11 world trumps all other issues. There is no Democrat on the scene today who I would trust with national security.

As for the Eisenhower reference, you read more into my purpose than was meant. It was only meant as a reference to the length of time — at least — to which the guest worker precedent stretches back. As I said in #51, it actually goes back further, to the FDR administration. My point should be obvious — that this is not a new problem.

Like you, I don't believe the guest worker proposal is the answer. However, I don't know what the answer is given the current political climate in this country.

By the way, thanks to redistricting having been controlled by Davis and our Marxist legislature, my congress-critter is now Maxine Waters. Yuck! But I will be calling her office to ask what her position is on this issue.

889 posted on 01/22/2004 11:39:01 AM PST by Wolfstar (George W. Bush — the 1st truly great world leader of the 21st Century)
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To: My2Cents
What he said may have been conservative but what he has done on the domestic side has not been. He is a rino.
890 posted on 01/22/2004 11:39:13 AM PST by RiflemanSharpe (An American for a more socially and fiscally conservation America!)
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To: woodyinscc
Has the Patriot Act impacted your life, or is it the myriad of needless and nonsensencicle laws passed down by State and local Gov.?

The "know your customer" law is part of it. I have opposed it for years. We prevented it from being enacted for years. As soon as Bush did it, the same people who opposed it rolled. It makes me puke. And the other point about it not "impacting" me is nonsense. It impacts everyone. When the next Hillary type is in charge, it will be crystal clear to all.

I like my private schools private. So does President Bush.

Anyone who thinks vouchers come without stipulations is naive IMO.

If we get back to strong family's and charitable communities with no Gov. intervention, there should be no need of this.(I know I am being idealistic)

Wishful is a better description, Bush will never take you there, he thinks government is the answer to societal problems. He has said so on many occasions.

891 posted on 01/22/2004 11:39:22 AM PST by Protagoras (When they asked me what I thought of freedom in America,,, I said I thought it would be a good idea.)
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To: My2Cents
I know when the election is..... but didn't want to give them a clue.... lol


892 posted on 01/22/2004 11:39:30 AM PST by deport ( Owen, Kuhl, Brown, Pickering, Pryor, Allen.. [Estrada, they won])
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To: Bikers4Bush
Suit yourself. But it's a bit disingenuous to imply by your screen name something you are not.
893 posted on 01/22/2004 11:39:42 AM PST by My2Cents ("Failure is not an option.")
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To: onyx
Check out my theory in post #599 with your husband. I'm being challenged by one of the folks here who suffers from the particular mental illness I referred to.
894 posted on 01/22/2004 11:40:19 AM PST by My2Cents ("Failure is not an option.")
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To: BJClinton
Abortion won't make or break this country; out-of-control spending, debt and bankruptcy will

I agree that pork spending coming out of Congress needs to be control

But you do realize one of the big reasons for the deficit is due to the war on terror and the recession that Clinton left us with

Should we stop the war on terror??

Should we take back the tax cuts?

895 posted on 01/22/2004 11:40:24 AM PST by Mo1 (Join the dollar a day crowd now!)
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To: Sabertooth
That's because I believe that route is the only way temporary workers are eligile for green cards. The normal process for those working in the United States to become an immigrant requires that they are permanent workers.
896 posted on 01/22/2004 11:40:41 AM PST by m1-lightning (Weapons of deterrence do not deter terrorists; people of deterrence do.)
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To: doug from upland
FYI
897 posted on 01/22/2004 11:40:59 AM PST by MEG33
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To: exmarine
Are you wearing your jackboots and brown shirt? I think Hitler said something similar. I think you need to read the 1st amendment.

Godwin's Law : As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.

Sorry, couldn't resist ;-)

898 posted on 01/22/2004 11:41:44 AM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: exmarine
"Just keep demanding that they address the issues - that's what I do."


Some do, but many prefer to play ostrich and keep their heads in the sand, screaming "At least he's not Clinton!!", rather than actually addressing any of Bush's political and fiscal faults.

I've yet to see one single reasoned response to my multiple "He's already domestically (which doesn't count WoT expenses) outspent Clinton" posts. Just more BushBot, ostrich nonsense.

899 posted on 01/22/2004 11:42:07 AM PST by Blzbba
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To: Bikers4Bush
Oh, no......I'm sure my opinion is shared by a whole lot of others who see the nonsense of your statement.

It's an absurd and untenable position.

900 posted on 01/22/2004 11:42:07 AM PST by ohioWfan (BUSH 2004 - Leadership, Integrity, Morality)
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