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So you think George W. Bush is not a conservative?
SOTU transcript ^ | 1/22/04

Posted on 01/22/2004 7:07:09 AM PST by Wolfstar

ED. NOTE: On Tuesday evening, January 20, 2004, the President of the United States gave one of the most conservative State of the Union addresses in at least a generation. For a SOTU speech, it had a remarkably short spending wish list. Instead, it had passages such as those excerpted below — none of which would have been spoken by a Democrat or liberal (i.e., Leftist), or even a "RINO." Check it out:

[BEGIN EXCERPTS: Bold/underscore emphasis by Wolfstar]

Our greatest responsibility is the active defense of the American people. Twenty-eight months have passed since September 11th, 2001 — over two years without an attack on American soil. And it is tempting to believe that the danger is behind us. That hope is understandable, comforting — and false.

[SNIP]

The once all-powerful ruler of Iraq was found in a hole, and now sits in a prison cell. Of the top 55 officials of the former regime, we have captured or killed 45. Our forces are on the offensive, leading over 1,600 patrols a day and conducting an average of 180 raids a week. We are dealing with these thugs in Iraq, just as surely as we dealt with Saddam Hussein's evil regime.

Because of American leadership and resolve, the world is changing for the better. Last month, the leader of Libya voluntarily pledged to disclose and dismantle all of his regime's weapons of mass destruction programs, including a uranium enrichment project for nuclear weapons.

[SNIP]

Nine months of intense negotiations involving the United States and Great Britain succeeded with Libya, while 12 years of diplomacy with Iraq did not. And one reason is clear: For diplomacy to be effective, words must be credible, and no one can now doubt the word of America.

Many of our troops are listening tonight. And I want you and your families to know: America is proud of you. And my administration, and this Congress, will give you the resources you need to fight and win the war on terror.

I know that some people question if America is really in a war at all. They view terrorism more as a crime, a problem to be solved mainly with law enforcement and indictments. After the World Trade Center was first attacked in 1993, some of the guilty were indicted and tried and convicted, and sent to prison. But the matter was not settled. The terrorists were still training and plotting in other nations, and drawing up more ambitious plans. After the chaos and carnage of September the 11th, it is not enough to serve our enemies with legal papers. The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States, and war is what they got.

[SNIP]

Some critics have said our duties in Iraq must be internationalized. This particular criticism is hard to explain to our partners in Britain, Australia, Japan, South Korea, the Philippines, Thailand, Italy, Spain, Poland, Denmark, Hungary, Bulgaria, Ukraine, Romania, the Netherlands — (applause) — Norway, El Salvador, and the 17 other countries that have committed troops to Iraq. As we debate at home, we must never ignore the vital contributions of our international partners, or dismiss their sacrifices.

From the beginning, America has sought international support for our operations in Afghanistan and Iraq, and we have gained much support. There is a difference, however, between leading a coalition of many nations, and submitting to the objections of a few. America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our country.

We also hear doubts that democracy is a realistic goal for the greater Middle East, where freedom is rare. Yet it is mistaken, and condescending, to assume that whole cultures and great religions are incompatible with liberty and self-government. I believe that God has planted in every human heart the desire to live in freedom. And even when that desire is crushed by tyranny for decades, it will rise again.

[SNIP]

In the last three years, adversity has also revealed the fundamental strengths of the American economy. We have come through recession, and terrorist attack, and corporate scandals, and the uncertainties of war. And because you acted to stimulate our economy with tax relief, this economy is strong, and growing stronger.

You have doubled the child tax credit from $500 to $1,000, reduced the marriage penalty, begun to phase out the death tax, reduced taxes on capital gains and stock dividends, cut taxes on small businesses, and you have lowered taxes for every American who pays income taxes.

Americans took those dollars and put them to work, driving this economy forward. The pace of economic growth in the third quarter of 2003 was the fastest in nearly 20 years; new home construction, the highest in almost 20 years; home ownership rates, the highest ever. Manufacturing activity is increasing. Inflation is low. Interest rates are low. Exports are growing. Productivity is high, and jobs are on the rise.

These numbers confirm that the American people are using their money far better than government would have — and you were right to return it.

[SNIP]

We're requiring higher standards [in schools]. We are regularly testing every child on the fundamentals. We are reporting results to parents, and making sure they have better options when schools are not performing.

[SNIP]

We must continue to pursue an aggressive, pro-growth economic agenda. Congress has some unfinished business on the issue of taxes. The tax reductions you passed are set to expire. Unless you act — (applause) — unless you act — unless you act, the unfair tax on marriage will go back up. Unless you act, millions of families will be charged $300 more in federal taxes for every child. Unless you act, small businesses will pay higher taxes. Unless you act, the death tax will eventually come back to life. Unless you act, Americans face a tax increase. What Congress has given, the Congress should not take away. For the sake of job growth, the tax cuts you passed should be permanent.

Our agenda for jobs and growth must help small business owners and employees with relief from needless federal regulation, and protect them from junk and frivolous lawsuits.

Consumers and businesses need reliable supplies of energy to make our economy run — so I urge you to pass legislation to modernize our electricity system, promote conservation, and make America less dependent on foreign sources of energy.

My administration is promoting free and fair trade to open up new markets for America's entrepreneurs and manufacturers and farmers — to create jobs for American workers. Younger workers should have the opportunity to build a nest egg by saving part of their Social Security taxes in a personal retirement account. We should make the Social Security system a source of ownership for the American people.

[SNIP]

In two weeks, I will send you a budget that funds the war, protects the homeland, and meets important domestic needs, while limiting the growth in discretionary spending to less than 4 percent. This will require that Congress focus on priorities, cut wasteful spending, and be wise with the people's money. By doing so, we can cut the deficit in half over the next five years.

Tonight, I also ask you to reform our immigration laws so they reflect our values and benefit our economy.

[SNIP]

I oppose amnesty, because it would encourage further illegal immigration, and unfairly reward those who break our laws. My temporary worker program will preserve the citizenship path for those who respect the law, while bringing millions of hardworking men and women out from the shadows of American life.

[ED. NOTE: The precedent for guest worker programs goes back at least to the Eisenhower administration.]

[SNIP]

In January of 2006, seniors can get prescription drug coverage under Medicare. For a monthly premium of about $35, most seniors who do not have that coverage today can expect to see their drug bills cut roughly in half. Under this reform, senior citizens will be able to keep their Medicare just as it is, or they can choose a Medicare plan that fits them best — just as you, as members of Congress, can choose an insurance plan that meets your needs. And starting this year, millions of Americans will be able to save money tax-free for their medical expenses in a health savings account.

[SNIP]

On the critical issue of health care, our goal is to ensure that Americans can choose and afford private health care coverage that best fits their individual needs.

[SNIP]

Small businesses should be able to band together and negotiate for lower insurance rates, so they can cover more workers with health insurance. I urge you to pass association health plans. I ask you to give lower-income Americans a refundable tax credit that would allow millions to buy their own basic health insurance.

[SNIP]

To protect the doctor-patient relationship, and keep good doctors doing good work, we must eliminate wasteful and frivolous medical lawsuits. And tonight I propose that individuals who buy catastrophic health care coverage, as part of our new health savings accounts, be allowed to deduct 100 percent of the premiums from their taxes.

A government-run health care system is the wrong prescription. By keeping costs under control, expanding access, and helping more Americans afford coverage, we will preserve the system of private medicine that makes America's health care the best in the world.

[SNIP]

One of the worst decisions our children can make is to gamble their lives and futures on drugs. Our government is helping parents confront this problem with aggressive education, treatment, and law enforcement. Drug use in high school has declined by 11 percent over the last two years. Four hundred thousand fewer young people are using illegal drugs than in the year 2001.

[SNIP]

A strong America must also value the institution of marriage. I believe we should respect individuals as we take a principled stand for one of the most fundamental, enduring institutions of our civilization. Congress has already taken a stand on this issue by passing the Defense of Marriage Act, signed in 1996 by President Clinton. That statute protects marriage under federal law as a union of a man and a woman, and declares that one state may not redefine marriage for other states.

Activist judges, however, have begun redefining marriage by court order, without regard for the will of the people and their elected representatives. On an issue of such great consequence, the people's voice must be heard. If judges insist on forcing their arbitrary will upon the people, the only alternative left to the people would be the constitutional process. Our nation must defend the sanctity of marriage.

[SNIP]

It's also important to strengthen our communities by unleashing the compassion of America's religious institutions. Religious charities of every creed are doing some of the most vital work in our country — mentoring children, feeding the hungry, taking the hand of the lonely. Yet government has often denied social service grants and contracts to these groups, just because they have a cross or a Star of David or a crescent on the wall. By executive order, I have opened billions of dollars in grant money to competition that includes faith-based charities. Tonight I ask you to codify this into law, so people of faith can know that the law will never discriminate against them again.

[SNIP]

The momentum of freedom in our world is unmistakable — and it is not carried forward by our power alone. We can trust in that greater power who guides the unfolding of the years. And in all that is to come, we can know that His purposes are just and true.

[END EXCERPTS]


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; bushamnesty; sotu
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To: My2Cents
No confusion. I understand that we are going to forgive them for breaking the law and allow them to continue working. Sure they are going to have to pay a fee, you can call it a "fine" if you like, and have to leave the country in 5 years and then they can come back legally.

First, the law is currently to deport them. How about enforcing that law.

Second, what makes you think they will not just sneak back in after they leave the country in 5 years (if they actually leave). What happens if they don't? We have people that overstay their visas, that is a good indicator of what will happen.

Third, what makes you think that they will sign up? They did not do the legal thing to come into the country, why should they do the legal thing to stay? What happens if they don't?
661 posted on 01/22/2004 10:19:23 AM PST by looscnnn ("Live free or die; death is not the worst of evils" Gen. John Stark 1809)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
You will not, he was a UN one world government lover and that among other things is something I cannot abide.
662 posted on 01/22/2004 10:19:49 AM PST by Bikers4Bush (Constitution party here I come. Write in Tancredo in 04'!)
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To: onyx; Howlin; deport; Mo1
You like me!!!

You REALLY, REALLY like me!!!


(HAHAHA)
663 posted on 01/22/2004 10:20:01 AM PST by Neets (Dean Campaign Slogan: "I was endorsed by AlGore, and all I got was this lousy T-Shirt")
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To: skip2myloo
If they had their way, they'd bring him back .. apparently they haven't learned anything
664 posted on 01/22/2004 10:20:04 AM PST by Mo1 (Join the dollar a day crowd now!)
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To: The Old Hoosier
So what if he supported President Bush's unconstitutional Campaign Finance Reform bill?

How quickly we forget — it was the McCain-Feingold Campaign Finance Reform Bill until it was signed by the President.

665 posted on 01/22/2004 10:20:29 AM PST by Wolfstar (George W. Bush — the 1st truly great world leader of the 21st Century)
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To: carton253
In that case my apologies and thanks.
666 posted on 01/22/2004 10:20:54 AM PST by Bikers4Bush (Constitution party here I come. Write in Tancredo in 04'!)
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To: Mo1
"What your side fails to realize is the damage that the Dems have done huh?"

Nope. You have failed to realize the damage that Bush and his buddies have done.
667 posted on 01/22/2004 10:21:01 AM PST by looscnnn ("Live free or die; death is not the worst of evils" Gen. John Stark 1809)
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To: zook
Tell ex that the dip in Bush's numbers.......what is that, from 59% to 58%?........ are not due to a falling support among his base, whose support remains unchanged at 90%.

They are most likely due to the attention being paid by the media to the dippy dems, and the middle ground voters.

668 posted on 01/22/2004 10:21:54 AM PST by ohioWfan (BUSH 2004 - Leadership, Integrity, Morality)
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To: zook
There are also a lot of DU disruptors who visit here from time to time. In terms of political impact, you're all in the same boat and I treat you all alike.

I am from a conservative enclave in California (I'll take the flag with me when I leave). FR is not the only place where people are unhappy with Mr. Bush's policies. Read the latest poll numbers. Wake up and deal with reality - Bush is losing some of his base support over his liberal policies.

669 posted on 01/22/2004 10:22:20 AM PST by exmarine ( sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Wolfstar
Well Wolfstar (and other posters) .. , I have read your "article".. and I have read most of the posts. There are the regulars and a few "new ones" at least to me.. posting.

Most of us have our set opinions on GWB and the direction the country is taking under his leadership.

Various threads I note have repitition of the same issue, points of view. Not sure any of us will change anyone's mind ....

I like to think I am open minded.(maybe a relative term?) I am conservative. But that is also relative term. I am also considered white (another relative term)...and tall for a woman (another relative term)and a spiritual person (yup, you know what goes here too).

We are all different here. Why would we expect each other to completely agree with us on every issue .. we get along best with those that think like us, that is life in general.

Well, I am open minded but I also am a "big picture " person. The big picture is who can win? what can be accomplished with supporting of a given candidate? I personally refuse to WASTE my vote on someone who doesn't have a dog's chance .. I might as well write in my or my DOG'S name as support a party/candidate who wont have a chance. It will just dilute the chance of someone else.Better to stay home & smash my hand in the door a few times.

so the obvious thought might be ... If you NAYSAYERS are SO very much against GWB , consider that to just defeat GWB & take a (HORROR OF HORROR) chance that someone like Dean might get elected, is scary. You scare me by not really thinking this through.

Great Post Wolfstar
President Bush will have the vote of DollyCali

670 posted on 01/22/2004 10:22:25 AM PST by DollyCali (2004: Opportunity for love, growth, giving, doing..... It is our choice.)
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To: looscnnn
Nope. You have failed to realize the damage that Bush and his buddies have done.

And that would be what??

671 posted on 01/22/2004 10:22:29 AM PST by Mo1 (Join the dollar a day crowd now!)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
Agree !!! I am not abandoning my leader who has done so much for this country and especially for GOP... I am not narrow- minded that might be helping another RAT to the WhiteHouse.


672 posted on 01/22/2004 10:22:47 AM PST by bayng
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To: m1-lightning
I disagree.
673 posted on 01/22/2004 10:22:56 AM PST by Bikers4Bush (Constitution party here I come. Write in Tancredo in 04'!)
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To: Your Nightmare
It's always refreshing to see an honest democrat speak."MY Nightmare" is a democrat in the presidency.Kerry?Edwards?Clark?Dean?Leiberman?Kucinich?Sharpton? MY Nightmare? Gore or Ms Clinton as President in 2008.
674 posted on 01/22/2004 10:22:58 AM PST by MEG33
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To: Sabertooth
"My administration will work with the Congress to increase the annual number of green cards that can lead to citizenship. "

That quote can no way be interpreted as "I will give illegal immigrants citizenship in the future".

It simply means - we will increase legal immigration numbers. He did not propose green cards for temporary workers but rather permits for temporary workers. Of these temporary workers, *some* may be selected for green cards. When he said the permits will have an end, he said it for "participants who do not remain employed, who do not follow the rules of the program or who break a law"

Don't twist what's already a bad idea into something that's totally worse.

675 posted on 01/22/2004 10:23:08 AM PST by m1-lightning (Weapons of deterrence do not deter terrorists; people of deterrence do.)
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To: looscnnn
Oh sorry, wrong answer. They move to the northern states in the summer and move to southern & western states in the winter.

Some do, but many/millions head for Mexico and live through the winter with their families. Why do you think that this is Mexico's top income?? Nice try.

Funny, I used to live down the road from a couple of apple farms and they used machines. We also had other agricultural farms around: corn, machine; soybeans, machine; hay, machine; wheat, machine.

Legume machines are far different than produce machines, course I wonder who is working on those machines. You should send those apple farmers out here where they use thousands of Mexicans to harvest their apples. Couse these are probably just greedy farmers. I am sure these farmers just are not as enlightened as your TWO neighbors! Want to try again.

Once again. If anyone can explain how our agriculture industry can survive w/o Mexican labor I will vote for Yaaaawn Kerry! Fact is the truth doesn't always fit into some soapboxes!

Viva Bush and Pray for Our Troops

676 posted on 01/22/2004 10:24:08 AM PST by bray (The Wicked Witch of NY and Her (9-5) Flying Monkeys are In Flames!)
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To: BJClinton
Hmm, like the Post Office, most of these places can't sell a single monetary instrument that exceeds $750 in denomination.

Curious.

CC refers to the Fed Reserve regulation, Fed Reserve Regs are lettered, you can go to their web site and read them all on line.

677 posted on 01/22/2004 10:24:12 AM PST by skip2myloo
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To: Mo1
Only if he refuses to act in the best interests of the constitution, this country and it's citizens.
678 posted on 01/22/2004 10:25:24 AM PST by Bikers4Bush (Constitution party here I come. Write in Tancredo in 04'!)
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To: Southack
Obviously you do not understand me.

No problem, seems like the rest of the Republicans don't either.
679 posted on 01/22/2004 10:26:17 AM PST by Leatherneck_MT (Good night Chesty, wherever you may be.)
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To: Southack
who balanced every state budget and pinched pennies like mad

Oh come one, Dean was Gov. during the booming 90s. It was easy to have a balanced budget then. How would he do now?


Sorry, my cat hit 'post' for me. To continue, now that the boom has gone bust, as business cycles do, it's time to cut back, as we've done here in Texas. Now, the liberals here are bitchin' and moanin' and doing what liberals do: claims of racism, starving 'chilrun' etc. But the REAL conservatives here in the Lone Star state have done the right thing and cut the budget.

That's what Dubya and the others I voted for should have done at the Fed level. They didn't have to balance the budget, just cut spending some. Instead they barf out the Farm bill and the Prescription Drug BS (which isn't all bad, I know). Anyway, I don't think Dean would do anything different that Bush, in fact I believe he would spend more. But Bush has not been a fiscal conservative, which IS the most important quality of a true conservative.
680 posted on 01/22/2004 10:26:29 AM PST by BJClinton (Vote Democrat, it's easier than thinking.)
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