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So you think George W. Bush is not a conservative?
SOTU transcript ^ | 1/22/04

Posted on 01/22/2004 7:07:09 AM PST by Wolfstar

ED. NOTE: On Tuesday evening, January 20, 2004, the President of the United States gave one of the most conservative State of the Union addresses in at least a generation. For a SOTU speech, it had a remarkably short spending wish list. Instead, it had passages such as those excerpted below — none of which would have been spoken by a Democrat or liberal (i.e., Leftist), or even a "RINO." Check it out:

[BEGIN EXCERPTS: Bold/underscore emphasis by Wolfstar]

Our greatest responsibility is the active defense of the American people. Twenty-eight months have passed since September 11th, 2001 — over two years without an attack on American soil. And it is tempting to believe that the danger is behind us. That hope is understandable, comforting — and false.

[SNIP]

The once all-powerful ruler of Iraq was found in a hole, and now sits in a prison cell. Of the top 55 officials of the former regime, we have captured or killed 45. Our forces are on the offensive, leading over 1,600 patrols a day and conducting an average of 180 raids a week. We are dealing with these thugs in Iraq, just as surely as we dealt with Saddam Hussein's evil regime.

Because of American leadership and resolve, the world is changing for the better. Last month, the leader of Libya voluntarily pledged to disclose and dismantle all of his regime's weapons of mass destruction programs, including a uranium enrichment project for nuclear weapons.

[SNIP]

Nine months of intense negotiations involving the United States and Great Britain succeeded with Libya, while 12 years of diplomacy with Iraq did not. And one reason is clear: For diplomacy to be effective, words must be credible, and no one can now doubt the word of America.

Many of our troops are listening tonight. And I want you and your families to know: America is proud of you. And my administration, and this Congress, will give you the resources you need to fight and win the war on terror.

I know that some people question if America is really in a war at all. They view terrorism more as a crime, a problem to be solved mainly with law enforcement and indictments. After the World Trade Center was first attacked in 1993, some of the guilty were indicted and tried and convicted, and sent to prison. But the matter was not settled. The terrorists were still training and plotting in other nations, and drawing up more ambitious plans. After the chaos and carnage of September the 11th, it is not enough to serve our enemies with legal papers. The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States, and war is what they got.

[SNIP]

Some critics have said our duties in Iraq must be internationalized. This particular criticism is hard to explain to our partners in Britain, Australia, Japan, South Korea, the Philippines, Thailand, Italy, Spain, Poland, Denmark, Hungary, Bulgaria, Ukraine, Romania, the Netherlands — (applause) — Norway, El Salvador, and the 17 other countries that have committed troops to Iraq. As we debate at home, we must never ignore the vital contributions of our international partners, or dismiss their sacrifices.

From the beginning, America has sought international support for our operations in Afghanistan and Iraq, and we have gained much support. There is a difference, however, between leading a coalition of many nations, and submitting to the objections of a few. America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our country.

We also hear doubts that democracy is a realistic goal for the greater Middle East, where freedom is rare. Yet it is mistaken, and condescending, to assume that whole cultures and great religions are incompatible with liberty and self-government. I believe that God has planted in every human heart the desire to live in freedom. And even when that desire is crushed by tyranny for decades, it will rise again.

[SNIP]

In the last three years, adversity has also revealed the fundamental strengths of the American economy. We have come through recession, and terrorist attack, and corporate scandals, and the uncertainties of war. And because you acted to stimulate our economy with tax relief, this economy is strong, and growing stronger.

You have doubled the child tax credit from $500 to $1,000, reduced the marriage penalty, begun to phase out the death tax, reduced taxes on capital gains and stock dividends, cut taxes on small businesses, and you have lowered taxes for every American who pays income taxes.

Americans took those dollars and put them to work, driving this economy forward. The pace of economic growth in the third quarter of 2003 was the fastest in nearly 20 years; new home construction, the highest in almost 20 years; home ownership rates, the highest ever. Manufacturing activity is increasing. Inflation is low. Interest rates are low. Exports are growing. Productivity is high, and jobs are on the rise.

These numbers confirm that the American people are using their money far better than government would have — and you were right to return it.

[SNIP]

We're requiring higher standards [in schools]. We are regularly testing every child on the fundamentals. We are reporting results to parents, and making sure they have better options when schools are not performing.

[SNIP]

We must continue to pursue an aggressive, pro-growth economic agenda. Congress has some unfinished business on the issue of taxes. The tax reductions you passed are set to expire. Unless you act — (applause) — unless you act — unless you act, the unfair tax on marriage will go back up. Unless you act, millions of families will be charged $300 more in federal taxes for every child. Unless you act, small businesses will pay higher taxes. Unless you act, the death tax will eventually come back to life. Unless you act, Americans face a tax increase. What Congress has given, the Congress should not take away. For the sake of job growth, the tax cuts you passed should be permanent.

Our agenda for jobs and growth must help small business owners and employees with relief from needless federal regulation, and protect them from junk and frivolous lawsuits.

Consumers and businesses need reliable supplies of energy to make our economy run — so I urge you to pass legislation to modernize our electricity system, promote conservation, and make America less dependent on foreign sources of energy.

My administration is promoting free and fair trade to open up new markets for America's entrepreneurs and manufacturers and farmers — to create jobs for American workers. Younger workers should have the opportunity to build a nest egg by saving part of their Social Security taxes in a personal retirement account. We should make the Social Security system a source of ownership for the American people.

[SNIP]

In two weeks, I will send you a budget that funds the war, protects the homeland, and meets important domestic needs, while limiting the growth in discretionary spending to less than 4 percent. This will require that Congress focus on priorities, cut wasteful spending, and be wise with the people's money. By doing so, we can cut the deficit in half over the next five years.

Tonight, I also ask you to reform our immigration laws so they reflect our values and benefit our economy.

[SNIP]

I oppose amnesty, because it would encourage further illegal immigration, and unfairly reward those who break our laws. My temporary worker program will preserve the citizenship path for those who respect the law, while bringing millions of hardworking men and women out from the shadows of American life.

[ED. NOTE: The precedent for guest worker programs goes back at least to the Eisenhower administration.]

[SNIP]

In January of 2006, seniors can get prescription drug coverage under Medicare. For a monthly premium of about $35, most seniors who do not have that coverage today can expect to see their drug bills cut roughly in half. Under this reform, senior citizens will be able to keep their Medicare just as it is, or they can choose a Medicare plan that fits them best — just as you, as members of Congress, can choose an insurance plan that meets your needs. And starting this year, millions of Americans will be able to save money tax-free for their medical expenses in a health savings account.

[SNIP]

On the critical issue of health care, our goal is to ensure that Americans can choose and afford private health care coverage that best fits their individual needs.

[SNIP]

Small businesses should be able to band together and negotiate for lower insurance rates, so they can cover more workers with health insurance. I urge you to pass association health plans. I ask you to give lower-income Americans a refundable tax credit that would allow millions to buy their own basic health insurance.

[SNIP]

To protect the doctor-patient relationship, and keep good doctors doing good work, we must eliminate wasteful and frivolous medical lawsuits. And tonight I propose that individuals who buy catastrophic health care coverage, as part of our new health savings accounts, be allowed to deduct 100 percent of the premiums from their taxes.

A government-run health care system is the wrong prescription. By keeping costs under control, expanding access, and helping more Americans afford coverage, we will preserve the system of private medicine that makes America's health care the best in the world.

[SNIP]

One of the worst decisions our children can make is to gamble their lives and futures on drugs. Our government is helping parents confront this problem with aggressive education, treatment, and law enforcement. Drug use in high school has declined by 11 percent over the last two years. Four hundred thousand fewer young people are using illegal drugs than in the year 2001.

[SNIP]

A strong America must also value the institution of marriage. I believe we should respect individuals as we take a principled stand for one of the most fundamental, enduring institutions of our civilization. Congress has already taken a stand on this issue by passing the Defense of Marriage Act, signed in 1996 by President Clinton. That statute protects marriage under federal law as a union of a man and a woman, and declares that one state may not redefine marriage for other states.

Activist judges, however, have begun redefining marriage by court order, without regard for the will of the people and their elected representatives. On an issue of such great consequence, the people's voice must be heard. If judges insist on forcing their arbitrary will upon the people, the only alternative left to the people would be the constitutional process. Our nation must defend the sanctity of marriage.

[SNIP]

It's also important to strengthen our communities by unleashing the compassion of America's religious institutions. Religious charities of every creed are doing some of the most vital work in our country — mentoring children, feeding the hungry, taking the hand of the lonely. Yet government has often denied social service grants and contracts to these groups, just because they have a cross or a Star of David or a crescent on the wall. By executive order, I have opened billions of dollars in grant money to competition that includes faith-based charities. Tonight I ask you to codify this into law, so people of faith can know that the law will never discriminate against them again.

[SNIP]

The momentum of freedom in our world is unmistakable — and it is not carried forward by our power alone. We can trust in that greater power who guides the unfolding of the years. And in all that is to come, we can know that His purposes are just and true.

[END EXCERPTS]


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; bushamnesty; sotu
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561 posted on 01/22/2004 9:50:51 AM PST by Neets (Dean Campaign Slogan: "I was endorsed by AlGore, and all I got was this lousy T-Shirt")
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To: Wolfstar
Rewarding Illegal Invaders with ANY possibility of Amnesty is NOT acceptable.

A bloated Federal Budget without concern for fiscal responsibility, and concern for the eventual bill is NOT accepable.

Campaign Finance Reform was NOT accepable.

These are core GOP tenets. Why are they now acceptable to compromise on, and where next will the so-called "conservative President" or his Ruling Syndicate yield and compromise on traditional GOP Party platform principles?

Is it on guns? Abortion? Will the next SC appointees be "centrists" like David Souter? Who really knows what the "political" plan is...

For a Party that controls -- YES CONTROLS both the Senate AND the House AND the Presidency, why is conservatism merely just holding its ground, or even retreating on certain issues??

562 posted on 01/22/2004 9:51:00 AM PST by F16Fighter
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To: deport
Brit Hume reported that the very night Pickering was appointed.

But I guess he's a liar, too.
563 posted on 01/22/2004 9:51:15 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Texas Federalist
PhiKapMom is right. I wouln't compare Bush to Dole. I would compare him to his father, who lost his base, and the election, with the Tax hike.

If memory serves, didn't the elder Bush recently give TED KENNEDY the Bush family achievement award? What are they rewarding - how inexplicable is that? Does anyone take moral principles seriously anymore?

564 posted on 01/22/2004 9:51:21 AM PST by exmarine ( sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Neets
LOL! .. apparently so
565 posted on 01/22/2004 9:51:34 AM PST by Mo1 (Join the dollar a day crowd now!)
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To: novacation
The Bushbots really jumped you.

Oh, boo-freaking-hoo. You guys want the forum all to yourselves, and for your whining, take-my-ball-and-go-home-he's-not-gonna-get-my-vote-I-want-a-Democrat-to-win-that'll-teach-'em complaining about President Bush to either go unaddressed or be agreed with, is that it? Sheesh.

If you're going to dish it out, be prepared to take it.

566 posted on 01/22/2004 9:51:41 AM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (I love my Green Bay Packers! GO PATRIOTS!)
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To: carton253
I guess we will just have to agree to disagree -- I feel threatened by an intrusive government.

Say what you will about Jose Padilla, but admittedly he IS a U.S. citizen and he is being denied his Constitutional rights under provisions of the Patriot Act. It could happen to you, it could happen to me.

Frankly, the "I have nothing to hide" argument is weak - and has been debunked many times on FR and elsewhere.

Good luck - I'm glad you feel secure.

567 posted on 01/22/2004 9:51:46 AM PST by skip2myloo
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To: Wolfstar; All
I'll state it again as I did on a thread last night:

FACT: George W. Bush is not the greatest threat to conservative principles in America today.

FACT: The Democrats ARE the greatest threat to conservative principles in America today.

FACT: George W. Bush's re-election is the ONLY defense against a new onslaught of leftist ideology in the halls of government, in our courts, and in American society.

FACT: I think it's pretty well established that most of the naysayers on FR these days are 1) disruptors from the DNC who pretend to be Republicans who bash Bush; 2) disruptors from DU who pretend to be conservatives who bash Bush; 3) disgruntled Buchanan supporters who still hope that Pat hijacks the conservative movement and carries it back to the 1930s and '40s, and to about 15% of the US electorate; 4) the terminally crumudgeonly; 5) those who are still ticked off that most Freepers didn't support Tom McClintock in the California recall.

FACT: The naysayers spend more time trashing George W. Bush than they do trashing John Kerry, Howard Dean, John Edwards, or any of the other Democrats (which should tell you something).

FACT: I predicted back in September that the very same people who attempted to destroy the Republicans' chances of replacing Gray Davis would be sharpening their knives to destroy George W. Bush in the new year, and my prediction has proven correct -- you are precisely the same people, making the same tired arguments, but now targeting them at Bush instead of Arnold.

FACT: It's fine to disagree with Bush on any one or number of policies, but we've rounded the corner in this election cycle and now is the time for all conservatives to emphasize what they support about Bush's Presidency, rather than tear at each other over one or two single issues.

FACT: The Bush-bashers haven't said anything new in weeks; it's the same old mantra.

FACT: Jim Robinson has repeatedly made clear that, yes, this is a conservative discussion site, AND that it supports the re-election of Pres. Bush, supports the war on terror, supports the effort in Iraq, supports the President's judicial nominees, supports (in general) increasing the Republican majorities in Congress, all as the most practical means of correcting largely 60 years of leftist tilt in this nation. And...

FACT: These incessant criticisms of Bush go way beyond honest disagreements on policy, but have taken on an emotional edge which suggests that those who continue to gnaw on this particular bone suffer from the inability to step back, take a deep breath, and actually contribute something positive to the discussions on FR in particular, or the conservative movement in general.

568 posted on 01/22/2004 9:51:50 AM PST by My2Cents ("Failure is not an option.")
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To: Wolfstar
I think President Bush is the best president we've had in many decades.
569 posted on 01/22/2004 9:51:53 AM PST by TheDon (Have a Happy New Year!)
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To: BlueNgold
I find it amusing that the President who is vilified by the left as the most radical conservative in the history of the country is at the same time vilified by the hard right as a being nothing more than a Dem in Rep clothing.

lol - if both extremists hate him, then he MUST be doing something right.

570 posted on 01/22/2004 9:51:53 AM PST by Ophiucus
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To: looscnnn
Really, how can you bring them into the country legally if they are already here? Hmmmmm. That is kinda like "we broke the speed of light, but we did not move".

They migrate from Mexico in the winter to USA in the summer. Nice putdown!

Really, which crops? Can you justify that statement?

Apples, oranges, peaches, cherries and nearly every agriculture crop. Most fruits and vegetables need hand picking or damaged crop losses will put farmers out of business. In a world economy, higher costs equals foreign produce.

As for making unemployed pick, you going to have farmers pay their benefits, workmans comp and unemployment.

Once again, how do you have agriculture w/o cheap Mexican labor??? Still waiting.

Pray for W and The Truth

571 posted on 01/22/2004 9:52:27 AM PST by bray (The Wicked Witch of NY and Her (9-5) Flying Monkeys are In Flames!)
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To: carton253
They will freeze one's bank accounts for a couple weeks over transfers of one's money they consider overly large.

Depriving one of the use of one's own hard earned cash is pretty anti-freedom IMO.
572 posted on 01/22/2004 9:53:19 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: exmarine
If conservatives had voted as you do, with your third party nonsense, over the past 75 years, we'd all be living in a "socialist paradise" today.

And again, you would have had to have voted against Reagan to be consistent. I mean, he had an alien amnesty program, he failed to abolish the Dept. of Education, he let spending rise, etc.
573 posted on 01/22/2004 9:53:31 AM PST by zook
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To: exmarine
Grow up. What would be the standard for such an assinine excercise in prideful arrogance? My standard is the philosophy of the founding fathers, the Constitution and the bible. I really don't care what you think of my morality. How laughable!

Read this, and apply it to yourself, ex.

It is YOU who repeatedly call into question anyone's morals if they don't agree with you.

It is YOU who are guilty of 'prideful arrogance.'

It is YOU who think YOUR opinions are an infallible understanding of what the Scripture and the Constitution mean.

It is YOU who are laughable to all who read your arrogant condemnations.

All I did was to turn your own game around on you.........and you lost.

574 posted on 01/22/2004 9:53:48 AM PST by ohioWfan (BUSH 2004 - Leadership, Integrity, Morality)
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To: BJClinton
That's the number one litmus test for true conservatives: banning abortion. - Southack

"Gotta disagree with you there, the number one litmus test is fiscal responsibility." - BJClinton

Here's why I disagree: a liberal, such as the former governor of Vermont Howard Dean (who balanced every state budget and pinched pennies like mad) can be fiscally responsible and pro-choice.

Conservatives aren't pro-choice. We aren't out advocating the murder of innocent little babies in their mothers' wombs.

Yet your litmus test would say: Vote for Dean, a Planned Parenthood doctor, over Bush, the only President to ever sign a federal ban on abortion.

Thus, your litmus test is woefully flawed, with all due respect.

575 posted on 01/22/2004 9:53:56 AM PST by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: RiflemanSharpe
There is no amnesty or new guest worker program ,etc.There is a proposal .The Congress must enact.If Bush does this on his own with no Congressional intervention,we'll talk.Please explain how others in office handled this in a way you approve of.
576 posted on 01/22/2004 9:54:05 AM PST by MEG33
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To: PhiKapMom
I am a lifelong Republican, conservative, and want to win elections not win moral victories. Moral victories don't get a Republican in the White House and Republicans in Congress -- they elect Democrats!

Or as Franklin might have put it... we need to hang together or we will relive 1992 separately!

577 posted on 01/22/2004 9:54:15 AM PST by Tamzee (W '04..... America may not survive a Democrat this time!)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
You guys want the forum all to yourselves

Ding! Ding! Ding!

They hate Republicans. They wish we would leave.

578 posted on 01/22/2004 9:54:27 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Sabertooth
"Why is he risking so much for something that is not only wrong, but wildly unpopular?"



Good question.

I don't know.

We can speculate.............

Personal financial gain?
Backmail?
Payback?
?????????
579 posted on 01/22/2004 9:54:37 AM PST by WhiteGuy (Congress shall make no law... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press...)
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To: Mo1
Thanks for the ping, Mo1. Glad to see this post, but rather disgusted that some people can't give President Bush credit for anything he does right. They're indistinguishable from Democrats in that regard.
580 posted on 01/22/2004 9:54:37 AM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (I love my Green Bay Packers! GO PATRIOTS!)
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