So you think George W. Bush is not a conservative?

SOTU transcript ^ | 1/22/04

[exmarine]

I see...so anyone who stands firm on moral principle is a "wingnut" huh? So, ALL OF OUR FOUNDING FATHERS WERE WINGNUTS. Thank you Charlotte Corday for your brilliant insight.

[gunner03]

This post does not single out any one poster, but is meant for. I have been a lurker for a few years, and watched the positive and negative support for our President. Too often, I've seen posters react to something the media has put, and then having to retract their angry rhetoric when the truth came out. You say he's screwing the conservatives, but what would you have him do, knowing that if he appeals to just his conservative base, he loses. Folks, the Democrats want much more, and if they gain control, what then, back to whining like was done when Clinton was in office? Some say they could live with a Dem president and the House and Senate controlled by the Reps. This would be madness, WE HAVE CONTROL OF THE HOUSE, SENATE, AND THE PRESIDENCY, and we still can't get what we want. Thank God we have gotten some of the things, lower taxes, a secure country protected by a military re-energized by this President. You cry about the amnesty bill, give him some credit for at least proposing a solution, not the blanket amnesty with no controls that the Dems want. You talk about gun control,who wants that the most, seems like it's a Dem name on the proposed bill. We can all sit back and bitch and second guess, and my second guess is to go after our voice in the House and Senate, thats the power brokers, get rid of the Specters, Jeffords, Schummers, et all, and give the President something to work with.Get judges that will follow the Constitution. In the meantime, remember we have a President that doesn't attack the other side, but reacts to what he feels the people need. He may be wrong, but by God, he did something. Semper Fi

[MeekOneGOP]

RE-ELECT OUR PRESIDENT BUSH

[exmarine]

I see...so anyone who stands firm on moral principle is a "wingnut" huh? So, ALL OF OUR FOUNDING FATHERS WERE WINGNUTS. Thank you Charlotte Corday for your brilliant insight.

[steve50]

Proof that he is a Liberal Republican. Domestically liberal, while strong on defense. The democrats should love him.

Along with the FDR/LBJ wing of the republican party.

[carton253]

Can I ask... what civil liberties have you personally lost with the Patriot Act?

I would be interested in an answer.

[MEG33]

I knew Perot, the love of my life worked with Perot years ago.You voted for a man unfit to serve as President.

[looscnnn]

See, that is one of the problems with the country, we are letting groups like the ACLU, Rainblow/Push, etc. run the country. Who cares if they don't like it, they don't like the Ten Commandments in schools, courts, etc.

[Land of the Free 04]

Some say they could live with a Dem president and the House and Senate controlled by the Reps. This would be madness, WE HAVE CONTROL OF THE HOUSE, SENATE, AND THE PRESIDENCY, and we still can't get what we want.

The GOP Congress seems to have opposed Clinton's liberal plans more than it opposes Bush's liberal plans.

[Reagan Man]

People can argue all they want on the topic of whether PresBush is a conservative or not and exactly how much of a conservative he really is, but the fact remains there will be only one winner on election day in November. It will either be the Democratic Party candidate or the Republican Party candidate. That means voters will most likely choose between Kerry, Dean, Clark, Edwards, maybe Hillary and President Bush. In my book Bush is the best choice and frankly the only choice. I think GWBush is an instinctive conservative. He hasn't controlled federal spending to my satisfaction and his recent immigration reform proposals are deadwrong, but when I view the alternative choices, there's no doubt in my mind who gets my vote on election day 2004.

Since he took office, PresBush has handled the aftermath of the 9-11 attacks with courage, determination and moral clarity. He has taken the fight to the terrorists in their own homeland and he has waged war in the name of freedom and liberty. The President has strengethened our security at home and given law enforcement the tools to locate and fight terrorists here in America. The President has done a remarkable job in the War on Terrorism and he deserves the support of all American's.

I can't fathom seeing any of the liberal Democrat candidates --- Kerry, Dean, Edwards, Clark or Hillary --- sitting in the Oval Office attempting to prosecute the WoT.

President Bush deserves another term in office.

[Charlotte Corday]

Hey Howlin, you're exactly right too. What I think that you, and Dane, and Miss Marple, and the rest of YOUR crowd oughta do, is when you see a post from me or the rest of MY crowd, is remember that we're just a tiny pimple on the backside of that enormous middle-of-the-road America, and relax a bit.

And like I said above, there are a bunch of Republicans I could and would vote for. It's just that GWB is off that list. (CFR did it for me)

[Howlin]

Oh, I was wrong: it was Gallup.

Read it and weep:

The first result is that the Republican Party is more unified than ever before. Ninety-one percent of Republicans approve of the job President Bush is doing. In 1992, Bush's father didn't have anything like that level of support, and even the Reagan administration was split between so-called pragmatists and ideologues.

Today's Republicans not only like Bush personally, they also overwhelmingly support his policies. According to a Pew Center study, 85 percent of Republicans support the war in Iraq, 82 percent believe that pre-emptive war is justified, and 72 percent believe the U.S. is justified in holding terror suspects without trial.

From this article in the New York Times: The Bush Democrats

And since your reply to me sounded a lot bit like you were accusing me of making it up -- and so I'll know you know -- I make it a habit not to post things I can't back up.

[PhiKapMom]

He is still not a RINO -- that should be reserved for people in Congress that vote with the Democrats on topics such as partial birth abortion and against Tax Cuts -- two extremely important issues to Conservative Republicans.

RINO is a real hot button with me since I was on the receiving end of that on here recently and it really bugged me to no end since I am a lifelong Republican going back to before I could vote when I rang doorbells for Goldwater as a Teenage Republican.

[zook]

If you think you're a conservative, but at the same time you want Bush to lose, and thereby allow a Democrat to win, then you're indeed something like a wingnut and really ought to find another forum.

[MEG33]

It has been suggested that use of the terms bushbot or bushbasher be suspended.It tends to inflame rather than inform.

[soozla]

"I could care less that anyone is scared, my vote doesn't hinge on striking fear it hinges on someone doing the right damn thing for a change and so far I'm seeing less of the right thing being done and more of the wrong thing."

......yes, I hear the logic of what you're saying....but the "right" thing, according to you is the "wrong" thing, according to someone else.

I look at it like this.....there are some things that GWB has disappointed me on, but by and large, he is an honorable man who sincerely wishes to put this country back in "conservative" order........god forbid we give it up to liberals to trash for 4 or 8 more years.......then what??????...Hillary is ready to have her fat-ass manipulated into the office????? No freeking thank you!!!!

[ohioWfan]

There you go again, imagining that you are the only moral person on FR.

I don't think you'd want to go toe to toe on morality with many of the pro-Bush people on this forum, marine. I don't think you'd win.........

[exmarine]

I knew Perot, the love of my life worked with Perot years ago.You voted for a man unfit to serve as President.

My point stands - Dole lost because he didn't excite many conservatives - wishy washy at best. What you Bush supporters just can't get thru your heads is that there are a good number of conservatives who hold to moral principle and not Party.

[onyx]

You mean, only Bushbots need apply?

Just come out and say it. Any other position is considered illegitimate by most of you.

Attmepts to defame and defeat President Bush are illegitimate, unless you are democrat!

Debates and discussions on policy is one thing, bash Bush is quite another. That's falls into the democrats' realm.

Election '04 just may be the most important election in our lifetime.

[looscnnn]

If it were the will of the people, it would happen. But of course some people like yourself are happy with the status quo. Why is that, because you are told to?