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So you think George W. Bush is not a conservative?
SOTU transcript ^ | 1/22/04

Posted on 01/22/2004 7:07:09 AM PST by Wolfstar

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To: Mo1
I am voting for the Constitution Party.
361 posted on 01/22/2004 8:55:36 AM PST by RiflemanSharpe (An American for a more socially and fiscally conservation America!)
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To: Peach
"To stay home and not vote is idiocy and I do hope those posters don't show up to complain after election day if a Rat is elected and does things that will place this country in a more precarious position."

DITTO!

362 posted on 01/22/2004 8:55:58 AM PST by Pippin (Bush still has MY vote!)
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To: All
It's time once again, boys and girls, for your daily lesson.

Extremists will NEVER get to vote FOR anyone. That is the nature of the universe. That is not something I impose on you. That is not something the GOP imposes on you. That is something the reality of the political spectrum imposes on you and there is nothing you or I or anyone will ever be able to do about it. The best you will ever be able to do is vote . . . in the immortal words of W. F. Buckley for the "most rightward, viable candidate".

Now repeat after me, class:

My Optimal Procedure Is To Vote For The Viable Candidate Who Is More Conservative Than The Opponent.

There. Wasn't that easy?

Now trot along and read up on John Kerry's pro_Life credentials.
363 posted on 01/22/2004 8:56:04 AM PST by Owen
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To: MeekOneGOP
Keep 'em coming, Meek.
364 posted on 01/22/2004 8:56:12 AM PST by onyx (Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
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To: Sabertooth
If there's a leak in the coalition, is your time better spent resenting the water, or convincing President Bush not to continue poking holes in the hull?

Wonderful analogy.

365 posted on 01/22/2004 8:56:18 AM PST by Protagoras (When they asked me what I thought of freedom in America,,, I said I thought it would be a good idea.)
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To: mdefranc
"Gee, Wolfstar, in precisely what respects has Bush been more conservative than Reagan?"

President Bush signed TWO bills into law that arm our pilots with handguns in the cockpit. That's not much until you realize that's the FIRST ever repeal of *any* federal gun control in our history.

President Bush also ordered Attorney-General Ashcroft to formally notify the Supreme Court that the OFFICIAL U.S. government position on the 2nd Amendment is that it supports INDIVIDUAL rights to own firearms, NOT a leftist-imagined *collective* right, something so radically Conservative that even President Reagan didn't dare do it.

366 posted on 01/22/2004 8:56:24 AM PST by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Bikers4Bush
Never once have I said anywhere that I am unhappy with how he has handled the WOT or the increase in military spending so get that straight.

But yet you want to see him replaced

367 posted on 01/22/2004 8:56:33 AM PST by Mo1 (Join the dollar a day crowd now!)
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To: Charlotte Corday
Perfect, and thanks for that.
368 posted on 01/22/2004 8:56:36 AM PST by Bikers4Bush (Constitution party here I come. Write in Tancredo in 04'!)
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To: kegler4
Who's defending him? Most of us are just as unhappy about some of his policies as you are.

But we're not lemmings; I'll be damned if I'll cut off MY nose to spit this administration.
369 posted on 01/22/2004 8:56:40 AM PST by Howlin
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To: RiflemanSharpe
I am voting for the Constitution Party.

And who would that person be??

Got a name possibly???

370 posted on 01/22/2004 8:57:28 AM PST by Mo1 (Join the dollar a day crowd now!)
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To: Leatherneck_MT
Generally I agree with his stewardship of the war on terrorism -- but, we're not as aggressive as we should be pursuing ol' Osama in Afghanistan (or wherever he is) and our force protection is inadequate in Iraq. There are two reasons for that, inexperienced leaders and poor leadership overall. As a result too many young men and women are dying.

The second is the forces that are there are streched too thin. And, we need to be working more aggressively against Syria and others. We must be consistent in our policies -- if we're for democracy in the middle east - we've got to say it should occur in Jordan (even if they are our "friends") as well as in Iraq.

Temporary tax cuts are inadequate -- Bush promised us tax reform, I don't see it. He should get behind fellow Texan Tom DeLay and support his proposal in the house.

Nobody here is mentioning GWB signed CFR - he should've VETOED that bill.

The spending bills for Agriculture and Education went far beyond any rational limit.

Maybe he couldn't do anything about the SCOTUS ruling in the Michigan affirmative action case -- but he could STOP affirmative action in hiring decisions within all the federal departments that are part of his executive branch.

He has not done so - affirmative action is steaming full speed ahead in the executive branch.

As for new, tougher standards in education, the states are bypassing him on that one too. In Virginia a bill has been proposed that students attending "failing" schools who also fail their own standards of learning (SOL) tests -- will just be given a diploma anyway !!

But, voting for Bush is a no-brainer, we simply cannot allow the Presidency to fall into the hands of any of the Democrats who are running.

Bush is a 'Hobson's Choice,' that is, he's the only choice we have. Rove knows that and they're carrying Morris' idea of "triangulation" to an absurd extreme, neglecting conservative values and issues almost totally. The rhetoric is there -- but not the action.

371 posted on 01/22/2004 8:57:31 AM PST by skip2myloo
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To: BlackbirdSST
I worded that poorly.Leave out the "back".It does seem to imply something I did not wish.

I do not look forward to your"I told you so" celebration if Bush loses.I will be very upset and will not enjoy it at all.I really believe this nation needs him at this time in history.

I truly fear a Democratic administration and perhaps,Senate,if a Democrat wins the Presidency.I have no ability to change your mind.I would if I could.
372 posted on 01/22/2004 8:57:33 AM PST by MEG33
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To: RiflemanSharpe
I am voting for the Constitution Party.

You've told us a 100 times already. Like I didn't know.

373 posted on 01/22/2004 8:57:40 AM PST by Dane
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To: Pern; RiflemanSharpe; BlackbirdSST; Bikers4Bush
How about a "revolt"? Kick everyone out of DC and elect people new people. Ones with common sense, spines, morals and the will to defend the Constitution.
374 posted on 01/22/2004 8:58:08 AM PST by looscnnn ("Live free or die; death is not the worst of evils" Gen. John Stark 1809)
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To: Owen
It's time once again, boys and girls, for your daily lesson.

And that's the gospel, according to Owen.

Take a humility pill and call me in the morning. If your test shows what I suspect, you will need a personality transplant.

375 posted on 01/22/2004 8:58:21 AM PST by Protagoras (When they asked me what I thought of freedom in America,,, I said I thought it would be a good idea.)
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To: Texas Federalist
No. Liberal policies will hurt the country if enacted. That is why I am not voting for Bush. A divided country will produce gridlock, rather than a Congress rubber stamping Bush's liberal social agenda. Gridlock is the best we can hope for until we get a real Republican leader.

My sentiments exactly. While I like Mr. Bush as a person, I can't accept his socialist policies. I don't like legalized theft and that's exactly what our tax system is. I want leaders who will REJECT the status quo, not enhance it!

376 posted on 01/22/2004 8:58:22 AM PST by exmarine ( sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Bikers4Bush
Now, this is what I asked you:

Why don't you tell us all your vision of the country when the Democrats return to power. Exactly what will you have accomplished?

And your reply to me was:

Aaaah, more fear mongering. How nice.

So, you're actually acknowledging to everybody on this thread that you are fully aware that we should be afraid of what YOUR plan will do for the country?

377 posted on 01/22/2004 8:58:26 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Wolfstar
So you think George W. Bush is not a conservative?

Correct.

378 posted on 01/22/2004 8:58:56 AM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Stew Padasso
Ask the Admin Moderator -- don't have a clue!
379 posted on 01/22/2004 8:59:18 AM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Support Bush-Cheney '04)
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To: exmarine
Actually the fact that 90% of Republicans support Bush and his approval rating is only 50% means that all his support are coming from his base. That further proves the point that he may lose because of an unenthusiastic base. A portion of that 90% are not enthusiastic enough to take time out of their busy day to vote, and Bush loses.
380 posted on 01/22/2004 8:59:31 AM PST by Texas Federalist
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