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So you think George W. Bush is not a conservative?
SOTU transcript ^ | 1/22/04

Posted on 01/22/2004 7:07:09 AM PST by Wolfstar

ED. NOTE: On Tuesday evening, January 20, 2004, the President of the United States gave one of the most conservative State of the Union addresses in at least a generation. For a SOTU speech, it had a remarkably short spending wish list. Instead, it had passages such as those excerpted below — none of which would have been spoken by a Democrat or liberal (i.e., Leftist), or even a "RINO." Check it out:

[BEGIN EXCERPTS: Bold/underscore emphasis by Wolfstar]

Our greatest responsibility is the active defense of the American people. Twenty-eight months have passed since September 11th, 2001 — over two years without an attack on American soil. And it is tempting to believe that the danger is behind us. That hope is understandable, comforting — and false.

[SNIP]

The once all-powerful ruler of Iraq was found in a hole, and now sits in a prison cell. Of the top 55 officials of the former regime, we have captured or killed 45. Our forces are on the offensive, leading over 1,600 patrols a day and conducting an average of 180 raids a week. We are dealing with these thugs in Iraq, just as surely as we dealt with Saddam Hussein's evil regime.

Because of American leadership and resolve, the world is changing for the better. Last month, the leader of Libya voluntarily pledged to disclose and dismantle all of his regime's weapons of mass destruction programs, including a uranium enrichment project for nuclear weapons.

[SNIP]

Nine months of intense negotiations involving the United States and Great Britain succeeded with Libya, while 12 years of diplomacy with Iraq did not. And one reason is clear: For diplomacy to be effective, words must be credible, and no one can now doubt the word of America.

Many of our troops are listening tonight. And I want you and your families to know: America is proud of you. And my administration, and this Congress, will give you the resources you need to fight and win the war on terror.

I know that some people question if America is really in a war at all. They view terrorism more as a crime, a problem to be solved mainly with law enforcement and indictments. After the World Trade Center was first attacked in 1993, some of the guilty were indicted and tried and convicted, and sent to prison. But the matter was not settled. The terrorists were still training and plotting in other nations, and drawing up more ambitious plans. After the chaos and carnage of September the 11th, it is not enough to serve our enemies with legal papers. The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States, and war is what they got.

[SNIP]

Some critics have said our duties in Iraq must be internationalized. This particular criticism is hard to explain to our partners in Britain, Australia, Japan, South Korea, the Philippines, Thailand, Italy, Spain, Poland, Denmark, Hungary, Bulgaria, Ukraine, Romania, the Netherlands — (applause) — Norway, El Salvador, and the 17 other countries that have committed troops to Iraq. As we debate at home, we must never ignore the vital contributions of our international partners, or dismiss their sacrifices.

From the beginning, America has sought international support for our operations in Afghanistan and Iraq, and we have gained much support. There is a difference, however, between leading a coalition of many nations, and submitting to the objections of a few. America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our country.

We also hear doubts that democracy is a realistic goal for the greater Middle East, where freedom is rare. Yet it is mistaken, and condescending, to assume that whole cultures and great religions are incompatible with liberty and self-government. I believe that God has planted in every human heart the desire to live in freedom. And even when that desire is crushed by tyranny for decades, it will rise again.

[SNIP]

In the last three years, adversity has also revealed the fundamental strengths of the American economy. We have come through recession, and terrorist attack, and corporate scandals, and the uncertainties of war. And because you acted to stimulate our economy with tax relief, this economy is strong, and growing stronger.

You have doubled the child tax credit from $500 to $1,000, reduced the marriage penalty, begun to phase out the death tax, reduced taxes on capital gains and stock dividends, cut taxes on small businesses, and you have lowered taxes for every American who pays income taxes.

Americans took those dollars and put them to work, driving this economy forward. The pace of economic growth in the third quarter of 2003 was the fastest in nearly 20 years; new home construction, the highest in almost 20 years; home ownership rates, the highest ever. Manufacturing activity is increasing. Inflation is low. Interest rates are low. Exports are growing. Productivity is high, and jobs are on the rise.

These numbers confirm that the American people are using their money far better than government would have — and you were right to return it.

[SNIP]

We're requiring higher standards [in schools]. We are regularly testing every child on the fundamentals. We are reporting results to parents, and making sure they have better options when schools are not performing.

[SNIP]

We must continue to pursue an aggressive, pro-growth economic agenda. Congress has some unfinished business on the issue of taxes. The tax reductions you passed are set to expire. Unless you act — (applause) — unless you act — unless you act, the unfair tax on marriage will go back up. Unless you act, millions of families will be charged $300 more in federal taxes for every child. Unless you act, small businesses will pay higher taxes. Unless you act, the death tax will eventually come back to life. Unless you act, Americans face a tax increase. What Congress has given, the Congress should not take away. For the sake of job growth, the tax cuts you passed should be permanent.

Our agenda for jobs and growth must help small business owners and employees with relief from needless federal regulation, and protect them from junk and frivolous lawsuits.

Consumers and businesses need reliable supplies of energy to make our economy run — so I urge you to pass legislation to modernize our electricity system, promote conservation, and make America less dependent on foreign sources of energy.

My administration is promoting free and fair trade to open up new markets for America's entrepreneurs and manufacturers and farmers — to create jobs for American workers. Younger workers should have the opportunity to build a nest egg by saving part of their Social Security taxes in a personal retirement account. We should make the Social Security system a source of ownership for the American people.

[SNIP]

In two weeks, I will send you a budget that funds the war, protects the homeland, and meets important domestic needs, while limiting the growth in discretionary spending to less than 4 percent. This will require that Congress focus on priorities, cut wasteful spending, and be wise with the people's money. By doing so, we can cut the deficit in half over the next five years.

Tonight, I also ask you to reform our immigration laws so they reflect our values and benefit our economy.

[SNIP]

I oppose amnesty, because it would encourage further illegal immigration, and unfairly reward those who break our laws. My temporary worker program will preserve the citizenship path for those who respect the law, while bringing millions of hardworking men and women out from the shadows of American life.

[ED. NOTE: The precedent for guest worker programs goes back at least to the Eisenhower administration.]

[SNIP]

In January of 2006, seniors can get prescription drug coverage under Medicare. For a monthly premium of about $35, most seniors who do not have that coverage today can expect to see their drug bills cut roughly in half. Under this reform, senior citizens will be able to keep their Medicare just as it is, or they can choose a Medicare plan that fits them best — just as you, as members of Congress, can choose an insurance plan that meets your needs. And starting this year, millions of Americans will be able to save money tax-free for their medical expenses in a health savings account.

[SNIP]

On the critical issue of health care, our goal is to ensure that Americans can choose and afford private health care coverage that best fits their individual needs.

[SNIP]

Small businesses should be able to band together and negotiate for lower insurance rates, so they can cover more workers with health insurance. I urge you to pass association health plans. I ask you to give lower-income Americans a refundable tax credit that would allow millions to buy their own basic health insurance.

[SNIP]

To protect the doctor-patient relationship, and keep good doctors doing good work, we must eliminate wasteful and frivolous medical lawsuits. And tonight I propose that individuals who buy catastrophic health care coverage, as part of our new health savings accounts, be allowed to deduct 100 percent of the premiums from their taxes.

A government-run health care system is the wrong prescription. By keeping costs under control, expanding access, and helping more Americans afford coverage, we will preserve the system of private medicine that makes America's health care the best in the world.

[SNIP]

One of the worst decisions our children can make is to gamble their lives and futures on drugs. Our government is helping parents confront this problem with aggressive education, treatment, and law enforcement. Drug use in high school has declined by 11 percent over the last two years. Four hundred thousand fewer young people are using illegal drugs than in the year 2001.

[SNIP]

A strong America must also value the institution of marriage. I believe we should respect individuals as we take a principled stand for one of the most fundamental, enduring institutions of our civilization. Congress has already taken a stand on this issue by passing the Defense of Marriage Act, signed in 1996 by President Clinton. That statute protects marriage under federal law as a union of a man and a woman, and declares that one state may not redefine marriage for other states.

Activist judges, however, have begun redefining marriage by court order, without regard for the will of the people and their elected representatives. On an issue of such great consequence, the people's voice must be heard. If judges insist on forcing their arbitrary will upon the people, the only alternative left to the people would be the constitutional process. Our nation must defend the sanctity of marriage.

[SNIP]

It's also important to strengthen our communities by unleashing the compassion of America's religious institutions. Religious charities of every creed are doing some of the most vital work in our country — mentoring children, feeding the hungry, taking the hand of the lonely. Yet government has often denied social service grants and contracts to these groups, just because they have a cross or a Star of David or a crescent on the wall. By executive order, I have opened billions of dollars in grant money to competition that includes faith-based charities. Tonight I ask you to codify this into law, so people of faith can know that the law will never discriminate against them again.

[SNIP]

The momentum of freedom in our world is unmistakable — and it is not carried forward by our power alone. We can trust in that greater power who guides the unfolding of the years. And in all that is to come, we can know that His purposes are just and true.

[END EXCERPTS]


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; bushamnesty; sotu
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To: RiflemanSharpe
The party is broken. I and others are hoping to give the powers that be a wake up call. They cannot ignore conservatives, or it will hurt them

IOW, You are going to hold your breath until you turn blue, until you get 100% of what you want.

301 posted on 01/22/2004 8:45:26 AM PST by Dane
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To: RiflemanSharpe
They cannot ignore conservatives, or it will hurt them.

And liberalism in power will not hurt the Country

302 posted on 01/22/2004 8:45:32 AM PST by woodyinscc
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To: MEG33
You are still looking forward to coming back on Free Republic and rubbing our noses in it on Nov.3rd,I assume.

I'm not going anywhere MEG. At least until you guy's get me banned. We have common ground, remember the Veto thing? Blackbird.

303 posted on 01/22/2004 8:45:55 AM PST by BlackbirdSST (.)
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To: ohioWfan
I am in SC, meaning that my vote for a Constitution or Reform candidate will not mean a thing in the big picture of electoral votes cast by SC.
304 posted on 01/22/2004 8:45:56 AM PST by looscnnn ("Live free or die; death is not the worst of evils" Gen. John Stark 1809)
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To: Howlin
You cannot possibly be that unknowlegable about the way this works.

How could I cost Republicans an election if I was never going to vote for them?

You can't possibly be that unknowledgable about how that works.

305 posted on 01/22/2004 8:46:25 AM PST by Protagoras (When they asked me what I thought of freedom in America,,, I said I thought it would be a good idea.)
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To: ohioWfan
The rest of us are bright enough to understand that we will disagree on issues with ANY President, and don't threaten to abandon him if he goes 'astray' from our litmus list

You're as silly as Wolfie-boy. That still requires complex thought - not going to get that from the one issue, the GOP isn't TRUELY conservative, folks from that other wannabe party.

306 posted on 01/22/2004 8:46:42 AM PST by Ophiucus
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To: RiflemanSharpe
First .. Bush 43 is not evil

The Dem party IS!

And if you can't see the difference you are blind
307 posted on 01/22/2004 8:46:44 AM PST by Mo1 (Join the dollar a day crowd now!)
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To: carton253
I'm not the one howling about me putting the dems in office.

And no I don't need a ride, I have several vehicles to choose from but thanks for the offer.
308 posted on 01/22/2004 8:46:51 AM PST by Bikers4Bush (Constitution party here I come. Write in Tancredo in 04'!)
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To: PhiKapMom
"My first amendment rights have not been trampled on because I can still post on Free Republic...."

Just don't plan on speaking out in the general public, 30 days before an election, or for that matter don't plan on seeing messages that are from anywhere but "legitimate" media. Whatever that means! It's great when the red media gets free reign to mold the minds of the sheeple. But then again, this is really helpful to a conservative agenda!

No law should be signed with an expectation that the Court will strike it down!


"Maybe it wouldn't hurt if there were a little more compassion around here towards our fellow man who just may need a helping hand. Someday you or someone you know may be on the receiving end of some of these programs that Pres Bush has proposed to make America a better place to live for all of us."

I would prefer to chose which communities get my helping hand. I would prefer not to pay 50% in taxes so that I can get my garbage picked up once a week. I would prefer to be able to directly assist people in my community, instead of sending money to Washington to dole out to whom they chose. If we didn't grow the budget, we might just have less people dependant on these government programs. The $1.5B marriage support bill wouldn't be necessary if two incomes weren't necessary for a household.
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"I feel very privileged to have been born in America and have the rights of being an American citizen. Many people around the world would give anything to be living in this great Country. That is one reason we have the problems we have today with number of people wanting to come here legally and those that come illegally. If we didn't have such a great Country, people wouldn't be flocking to America."

I feel privelaged to be an American as well. But these rights are continually shrinking and the more Liberty that is taken from the individual, the closer we are to these other failing countries. The difference is that they are harming themselves faster than we are harming ourselves.

The other issue here is that a large portion of these immigrants (legal and illegal) are not coming to America with the intent of becoming Americans. The come here for the better life, then try to bring the same failing attitude and cultural problems here. They want to remain hyphenated, speak their own language and have no interest in issimilation. This is harmful to the American way.


"My Dad's Family came to this Country before the Revolutionary War and settled in Virginia because they wanted a better life. Guess if you were an Indian, you would say that my Family came here illegally!"

I don't think anyone is saying this. The fact is that historically, legal immigration has been nothing but a benefit to this nation. That is with the assumption that those legal immigrants were interested in issimilation and emmersing themselves into the Amercan way of life.


Don't get the wrong idea, I am not turning my back on GWB. However, it is very distressing to think that I have to cast a vote for a domestically liberal candidate to avoid haveing a severely more liberal candidate win the election. I hate having to chose the lesser of two evils and I would prefer to not have to make that choice. Regardless, I am in complete support of the foriegn policy direction (excluding amnesty) that this administration is taking out country. Given that the President's constitutional duty is centered on foriegn policy, I have to cast my vote for the candidate that does the better job in this area. It is very clear what the correct choice is with regards to those duties.

I do understand the frustration of the conservative base and I don't think it is fair to consider GWB to be a conservative at all. I would consider him a Liberal Republican (Domestically left, while strong on security).

309 posted on 01/22/2004 8:46:55 AM PST by CSM (Council member Carol Schwartz (R.-at large), my new hero! The Anti anti Smoke Gnatzie!)
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To: Howlin
91 perecent of registered Republcans support this president and his policies.

A fairy tale.

310 posted on 01/22/2004 8:47:07 AM PST by Protagoras (When they asked me what I thought of freedom in America,,, I said I thought it would be a good idea.)
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To: Wolfstar
Your whole post could've been distilled down to, "I think George W. Bush is a proven conservative because he gave us tax cuts and he's fighting terrorists."

You cannot prove him to be conservative because he's not conservative, plain and simple. You can still support him, but do it with your eyes open and a wee bit of intellectual honesty. I'll almost certainly vote for him in November, but that doesn't mean I have to live in a fantasy world.

MM

311 posted on 01/22/2004 8:47:20 AM PST by MississippiMan
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To: Bikers4Bush
I agree with you . GWB needs to go away.
312 posted on 01/22/2004 8:47:58 AM PST by Cardini
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
Oh for heaven's sake...

My answer was sarcastic! You said as much as in your reply.

Of course the 2nd Amendment is important. I believe that Americans have the rights to bear arms. I believe in CCW.

What I don't understand is the need for anyone to have an automatic assault weapon. I believe that Americans have the right to own the weapon... I just don't know why anyone needs one.

That lack of understand doesn't make me the enemy of the Constituion... and it certainly doesn't make me needy of a government lesson from you. LOL!

313 posted on 01/22/2004 8:48:06 AM PST by carton253 (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States and war is what they got! (W)
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To: carton253
Well good for you.
314 posted on 01/22/2004 8:48:10 AM PST by Bikers4Bush (Constitution party here I come. Write in Tancredo in 04'!)
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To: thoughtomator
the president, or even the Congress, cannot impeach STATE judges...which is what the Massachusetts judges who made the decision, were. So the only recourse left is a constitutional amendment...which I think Dubya also knows is likely to fail.
315 posted on 01/22/2004 8:48:19 AM PST by Keith (IT'S ALL ABOUT THE JUDGES)
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To: Wolfstar
"A president has to call each issue like he sees it, all the while knowing that in a nation as vast as this, it is inevitable that at least a few million people will disagree with him on nearly every decision."

 

Great job on highlighting pertinent excerpts of President Bush's speech, Wolfstar. 

Critical media talking heads said the address was too long and pandered to the right-wing of the Republican Party.  Funny.  Some of the comments made here contradict the pundits because if he spoke on every issue...it would have been longer and some of those who say they are the base conservatives react negatively. 

President Bush is on the correct side of most conservative issues.  A one-issue, third/fourth party or leftist candidate is not an option that will serve this country well.

316 posted on 01/22/2004 8:48:41 AM PST by windchime (Podesta about Bush: "He's got four years to try to undo all the stuff we've done." (TIME-1/22/01))
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
The republican party has compromised themselves to the left of where the dems were twenty years ago. A bit more compromise and there will be no difference, even in speech, between them.

That's a macro, isn't it? Or is it a flash fax? You all have the same talking points.

Try to at least give the appearance of living in the real world; the GOP may not be as far to the extreme right as you want it to be, but it is where it is.

Now, if it doesn't suit you, you do need to find a party that suits you and run a candidate.

But don't keep telling US we are wrong; it's just a difference of opinion and that's what America is about. Either vote for him or don't vote for him; but TRY to stop acting like you all have the market cornered on principles and morals.

Now, what's YOUR alternative, other than bitching and moaning?

317 posted on 01/22/2004 8:48:43 AM PST by Howlin
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To: MEG33
I regret losing your vote.

And if Republicans lose enough power, they will regret it too. They might even bother to take the time to find out why, and fix it next time around. See how that works?

318 posted on 01/22/2004 8:48:44 AM PST by Protagoras (When they asked me what I thought of freedom in America,,, I said I thought it would be a good idea.)
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To: woodyinscc
They cannot ignore conservatives, or it will hurt them.
And liberalism in power will not hurt the Country


What is the differnce between the two anymore. The reps are now farther left on many issues the the dems were 20-30 years ago. What is the difference between liberalism from the reps and that of the one from the dems.
319 posted on 01/22/2004 8:49:01 AM PST by RiflemanSharpe (An American for a more socially and fiscally conservation America!)
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To: Protagoras
No, you're wrong, and the question is not 'inane.'

If you stay home, and not vote for the candidate who is closest to your ideals, you are voting for the opposition.

Besides that, IMO, you are a lousy American for giving up your hard-earned by the blood of our forebearers right to vote.

Anyone who stays home on election day, IMO, doesn't give a rip about this country.

But that's just my opinion, of course........

320 posted on 01/22/2004 8:49:05 AM PST by ohioWfan (BUSH 2004 - Leadership, Integrity, Morality)
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