So you think George W. Bush is not a conservative?

SOTU transcript ^ | 1/22/04

[Dane]

The party is broken. I and others are hoping to give the powers that be a wake up call. They cannot ignore conservatives, or it will hurt them

IOW, You are going to hold your breath until you turn blue, until you get 100% of what you want.

[woodyinscc]

They cannot ignore conservatives, or it will hurt them.

And liberalism in power will not hurt the Country

[BlackbirdSST]

You are still looking forward to coming back on Free Republic and rubbing our noses in it on Nov.3rd,I assume.

I'm not going anywhere MEG. At least until you guy's get me banned. We have common ground, remember the Veto thing? Blackbird.

[looscnnn]

I am in SC, meaning that my vote for a Constitution or Reform candidate will not mean a thing in the big picture of electoral votes cast by SC.

[Protagoras]

You cannot possibly be that unknowlegable about the way this works.

How could I cost Republicans an election if I was never going to vote for them?

You can't possibly be that unknowledgable about how that works.

[Ophiucus]

The rest of us are bright enough to understand that we will disagree on issues with ANY President, and don't threaten to abandon him if he goes 'astray' from our litmus list

You're as silly as Wolfie-boy. That still requires complex thought - not going to get that from the one issue, the GOP isn't TRUELY conservative, folks from that other wannabe party.

[Mo1]

First .. Bush 43 is not evil

The Dem party IS!

And if you can't see the difference you are blind

[Bikers4Bush]

I'm not the one howling about me putting the dems in office.

And no I don't need a ride, I have several vehicles to choose from but thanks for the offer.

[CSM]

"My first amendment rights have not been trampled on because I can still post on Free Republic...."

Just don't plan on speaking out in the general public, 30 days before an election, or for that matter don't plan on seeing messages that are from anywhere but "legitimate" media. Whatever that means! It's great when the red media gets free reign to mold the minds of the sheeple. But then again, this is really helpful to a conservative agenda!

No law should be signed with an expectation that the Court will strike it down!

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"Maybe it wouldn't hurt if there were a little more compassion around here towards our fellow man who just may need a helping hand. Someday you or someone you know may be on the receiving end of some of these programs that Pres Bush has proposed to make America a better place to live for all of us."

I would prefer to chose which communities get my helping hand. I would prefer not to pay 50% in taxes so that I can get my garbage picked up once a week. I would prefer to be able to directly assist people in my community, instead of sending money to Washington to dole out to whom they chose. If we didn't grow the budget, we might just have less people dependant on these government programs. The $1.5B marriage support bill wouldn't be necessary if two incomes weren't necessary for a household.
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"I feel very privileged to have been born in America and have the rights of being an American citizen. Many people around the world would give anything to be living in this great Country. That is one reason we have the problems we have today with number of people wanting to come here legally and those that come illegally. If we didn't have such a great Country, people wouldn't be flocking to America."

I feel privelaged to be an American as well. But these rights are continually shrinking and the more Liberty that is taken from the individual, the closer we are to these other failing countries. The difference is that they are harming themselves faster than we are harming ourselves.

The other issue here is that a large portion of these immigrants (legal and illegal) are not coming to America with the intent of becoming Americans. The come here for the better life, then try to bring the same failing attitude and cultural problems here. They want to remain hyphenated, speak their own language and have no interest in issimilation. This is harmful to the American way.

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"My Dad's Family came to this Country before the Revolutionary War and settled in Virginia because they wanted a better life. Guess if you were an Indian, you would say that my Family came here illegally!"

I don't think anyone is saying this. The fact is that historically, legal immigration has been nothing but a benefit to this nation. That is with the assumption that those legal immigrants were interested in issimilation and emmersing themselves into the Amercan way of life.

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Don't get the wrong idea, I am not turning my back on GWB. However, it is very distressing to think that I have to cast a vote for a domestically liberal candidate to avoid haveing a severely more liberal candidate win the election. I hate having to chose the lesser of two evils and I would prefer to not have to make that choice. Regardless, I am in complete support of the foriegn policy direction (excluding amnesty) that this administration is taking out country. Given that the President's constitutional duty is centered on foriegn policy, I have to cast my vote for the candidate that does the better job in this area. It is very clear what the correct choice is with regards to those duties.

I do understand the frustration of the conservative base and I don't think it is fair to consider GWB to be a conservative at all. I would consider him a Liberal Republican (Domestically left, while strong on security).

[Protagoras]

91 perecent of registered Republcans support this president and his policies.

A fairy tale.

[MississippiMan]

Your whole post could've been distilled down to, "I think George W. Bush is a proven conservative because he gave us tax cuts and he's fighting terrorists."

You cannot prove him to be conservative because he's not conservative, plain and simple. You can still support him, but do it with your eyes open and a wee bit of intellectual honesty. I'll almost certainly vote for him in November, but that doesn't mean I have to live in a fantasy world.

MM

[Cardini]

I agree with you . GWB needs to go away.

[carton253]

Oh for heaven's sake...

My answer was sarcastic! You said as much as in your reply.

Of course the 2nd Amendment is important. I believe that Americans have the rights to bear arms. I believe in CCW.

What I don't understand is the need for anyone to have an automatic assault weapon. I believe that Americans have the right to own the weapon... I just don't know why anyone needs one.

That lack of understand doesn't make me the enemy of the Constituion... and it certainly doesn't make me needy of a government lesson from you. LOL!

[Bikers4Bush]

Well good for you.

[Keith]

the president, or even the Congress, cannot impeach STATE judges...which is what the Massachusetts judges who made the decision, were. So the only recourse left is a constitutional amendment...which I think Dubya also knows is likely to fail.

[windchime]

"A president has to call each issue like he sees it, all the while knowing that in a nation as vast as this, it is inevitable that at least a few million people will disagree with him on nearly every decision."

 

Great job on highlighting pertinent excerpts of President Bush's speech, Wolfstar. 

Critical media talking heads said the address was too long and pandered to the right-wing of the Republican Party.  Funny.  Some of the comments made here contradict the pundits because if he spoke on every issue...it would have been longer and some of those who say they are the base conservatives react negatively. 

President Bush is on the correct side of most conservative issues.  A one-issue, third/fourth party or leftist candidate is not an option that will serve this country well.

[Howlin]

The republican party has compromised themselves to the left of where the dems were twenty years ago. A bit more compromise and there will be no difference, even in speech, between them.

That's a macro, isn't it? Or is it a flash fax? You all have the same talking points.

Try to at least give the appearance of living in the real world; the GOP may not be as far to the extreme right as you want it to be, but it is where it is.

Now, if it doesn't suit you, you do need to find a party that suits you and run a candidate.

But don't keep telling US we are wrong; it's just a difference of opinion and that's what America is about. Either vote for him or don't vote for him; but TRY to stop acting like you all have the market cornered on principles and morals.

Now, what's YOUR alternative, other than bitching and moaning?

[Protagoras]

I regret losing your vote.

And if Republicans lose enough power, they will regret it too. They might even bother to take the time to find out why, and fix it next time around. See how that works?

[RiflemanSharpe]

They cannot ignore conservatives, or it will hurt them.
And liberalism in power will not hurt the Country


What is the differnce between the two anymore. The reps are now farther left on many issues the the dems were 20-30 years ago. What is the difference between liberalism from the reps and that of the one from the dems.

[ohioWfan]

No, you're wrong, and the question is not 'inane.'

If you stay home, and not vote for the candidate who is closest to your ideals, you are voting for the opposition.

Besides that, IMO, you are a lousy American for giving up your hard-earned by the blood of our forebearers right to vote.

Anyone who stays home on election day, IMO, doesn't give a rip about this country.

But that's just my opinion, of course........