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N.C. Commandments monument removed
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Wednesday, January 21, 2004

Posted on 01/21/2004 12:51:19 AM PST by JohnHuang2

LAW OF THE LAND
N.C. Commandments monument removed
U.S. House candidate inspired by Judge Moore installed it at city hall


Posted: January 20, 2004
3:47 p.m. Eastern


© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

A Ten Commandments monument inspired by ousted Alabama Supreme Court Justice Roy Moore was removed from a North Carolina city hall one day after it was installed by a council member.


Winston-Salem councilman Vernon Robinson

Vernon Robinson, a candidate for a vacant U.S. House seat, said he paid $2,000 out of his personal funds to install the monument at the Winston-Salem city hall, which was deserted because of the Martin Luther King Jr. holiday, the Winston-Salem Journal reported.

The paper said a seven-man crew removed the one-ton granite block late this morning on the order of City Manager Bill Stuart. A backhoe carried the two-piece marker to a trailer attached to a city truck, which moved it to a warehouse where it will stay until Robinson comes to claim it.

Carrie Collins, the city's marketing and communications director, said city officials had not decided whether Robinson would pay for its removal.

Robinson's spokesman, Chris Younce, said the councilman was conferring with city officials and would be at the city council's meeting tonight, the Journal reported.

The monument's installation violated city policies requiring any display honoring public officials to be approved by the council and to have permission from the city manager to install it.

The councilman said he decided to install the monument after speaking in October with Moore, who was ousted as chief justice last November after refusing to remove a Ten Commandments monument from Alabama's state judicial building.

"This display is intended to acknowledge the undeniable role that the Ten Commandments and Bill of Rights have played in developing the American legal tradition," Robinson said, according to the Associated Press. "These are the ideas on which society has been built and these works encapsulate the belief system on which the republic was founded."

Robinson's five-foot tall monument has the Ten Commandments inscribed on one side facing Main Street and an abbreviated version of the Bill of Rights on the side facing city hall.

The city council member said he wanted the monument to be a surprise to the city's citizens and insisted he had no thought of what effect it would have on his campaign for the Republican nomination for the 5th Congressional District, the Winston-Salem paper said.


Ten Commandments monument paid for by city council member (Photo: Winston-Salem Journal)

Robinson said he and four helpers set up the monument on the holiday because the adjoining parking lot was empty, allowing moving equipment to position the blue-granite block. But city officials criticized his actions, especially during a time when the community was celebrating Martin Luther King Jr. Day.

"Obviously if you are going to do something like this, this is not the right way to do it," Mayor Allen Joines said, according to the Journal. "We are working hard to bring the city together. Actions like this tend to push people apart."

City Council Member Dan Besse called it "another political stunt."

The Winston-Salem paper said Robinson's peers often have complained about grandstanding and campaigning from his council seat.

Robinson said he didn't seek permission to put up the monument because he didn't know the procedure, although he admitted he came up with the idea in October.

He said he believes the marker is constitutional because it is not publicly funded or overtly religious.

"This monument is not an effort to proselytize; it is a history lesson," he said, according to the Winston-Salem daily. "Atheists may complain about history, but the words are still history."

Robinson said he did not think it would have any effect on the campaign, but supporters of the public display of the Ten Commandments said they were not so sure.

"I don't know that this kind of grandstanding promotes the understanding of our heritage," said state Sen. Virginia Fox, according to the Journal, adding it would be more sincere if it was erected by someone not running for office.

The honorary chairman for Robinson's campaign is former senator and vice-presidential candidate Jack Kemp, who calls him a "true Ronald Reagan conservative."

Kemp said Robinson has "led the fight for school choice, less government spending, and pro-growth tax cuts in North Carolina for many years."


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: antichristian; bigotry; nc05; racism; racists; robinson; vernonrobinson
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Wednesday, January 21, 2004

Quote of the Day by MJY1288

1 posted on 01/21/2004 12:51:20 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
Racism and anti-Christian bigotry is apparently alive and well in NC.
2 posted on 01/21/2004 1:01:32 AM PST by ppaul
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To: JohnHuang2
A couple of children, both Vernon and Bill.

Mom he's touching me...Mom he's looking at me!

3 posted on 01/21/2004 1:06:26 AM PST by PFKEY
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To: JohnHuang2
his campaign for the Republican nomination for the 5th Congressional District

Demonstrating that Roy Moore is not the only one who uses The Commandments as a political prop.

4 posted on 01/21/2004 4:09:59 AM PST by RJCogburn ("Hooray for the man from Texas!"........Mattie Ross of near Dardenelle in Yell County)
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To: ppaul
"Racism and anti-Christian bigotry is apparently alive and well in NC."


How do you get Racism out of anything in the article?

There was no public authorization for the monument. It was a unilateral decision by a citizen to place it there. Try putting up a Monument about the Koran in a public location and you'll get the same response....as well you should.

This was a publicity stunt by a political figure running for congress.
5 posted on 01/21/2004 4:17:14 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: JohnHuang2
I don't think I have ever seen that many m's&n's in one statement.
6 posted on 01/21/2004 4:29:38 AM PST by eastforker (The color of justice is green,just ask Johny Cochran!)
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To: Rebelbase
Try putting up a Monument about the Koran in a public location and you'll get the same response....as well you should.

Which is why I'm for amending the constitution to further define religion as a belief in the one true God, our creator and outlawing deathcults, mysticism and witchcraft.


HERO

7 posted on 01/21/2004 4:36:52 AM PST by AAABEST
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To: Rebelbase
You're apparantly a Muslim, an atheist or you hate your own God.

If not, you just enjoy spitting in His face in public. So forgive me if I misread you.

8 posted on 01/21/2004 4:38:53 AM PST by AAABEST
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To: AAABEST
Don't forget Jews, Hindus, and a majority of Aisians in your religous bigotry.

The Taliban had a simlar concept.
9 posted on 01/21/2004 4:39:06 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: DollyCali
This is the story you were writing about, Dolly??
10 posted on 01/21/2004 4:44:48 AM PST by Molly Pitcher (Okay, I'm for news regulation: BAN ALL coverage of MJ!!)
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To: AAABEST
Robinson said he didn't seek permission to put up the monument because he didn't know the procedure. -WorldNetDaily.com

There was nothing wrong with the sentiment itself. Robinson made a statement by ignoring procedure. He should voluntarily pay for the removal of the monument.

11 posted on 01/21/2004 4:48:32 AM PST by NutCrackerBoy
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To: Rebelbase
The Jews share a belief in the Creator of heaven and earth. If others want to worship false gods and idols fine, as long as they don't mind us glorifying Him.

If they don't that, they should stay home or move somewhere where the culture doesn't mind being spiritual death and eventual destruction.

What you're witnessing is a bastardization of the law, both in fact and in spirit. This was never the intent of the 1st and everyone knows it.

12 posted on 01/21/2004 4:53:24 AM PST by AAABEST
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To: AAABEST
How about you move to Israel? They tolerate Christian bigots pretty well. After all, you accept them and hate everyone else.
13 posted on 01/21/2004 4:56:32 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: NutCrackerBoy
I'm actually in agreement with you. Robinson broke the "law" as it's currently written.

However, we as a nation are collectively breaking the "law" when we've twisted our constitution to interpret cleansing our God from all things public. Not to mention the fact that we're breaking God's law (which was the foundation of our legal system).

For this we will pay dearly, as have all others before us. Unless of course we change our ways.

14 posted on 01/21/2004 4:57:06 AM PST by AAABEST
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To: Molly Pitcher; JohnHuang2
Yes, Molly it is! Thank you for scouting it out!!!
15 posted on 01/21/2004 5:00:12 AM PST by DollyCali (2004: Opportunity for love, growth, giving, doing..... It is our choice.)
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To: Rebelbase
I don't hate them, I hate false gods, idols and criminals who fooled their believers into making them prophets.

Not for anything but I would move to Israel if they ever got a clue as to why it is they exist.

You can call me a bigot if you like. You've been led astray to believe it charitable to allow evil to gain a foothold in a country where God once smiled upon.

You have a problem sir.

16 posted on 01/21/2004 5:03:49 AM PST by AAABEST
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To: AAABEST
"You have a problem, sir"

You are a bigot, sir.
17 posted on 01/21/2004 5:07:38 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: Rebelbase
Well thank you and may God's blessings be upon you and your family.

I mean that.

18 posted on 01/21/2004 5:09:30 AM PST by AAABEST
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To: RJCogburn
Demonstrating that Roy Moore is not the only one who uses The Commandments as a political prop.

Stoopid is as Stoopid does! Blackbird.

19 posted on 01/21/2004 5:16:35 AM PST by BlackbirdSST
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To: Rebelbase
"This was a publicity stunt by a political figure running for congress."

I personally believe that the left wing democrat party is a publicity stunt of Satan and represents itself in the democrat party's(with the help of rinos and liberal pubbies) spiritual war against Christianity. God haters and Christophobes (generally liberals and democrats,greenies, atheists and pagans)have and continue to be the driving political force that destroys the sovereign republic that Lord Jesus once blessed and uses to proclaim the saving gospel world wide,the one name these people always hate is the name above every name, Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour and King of kings.
I thank the good Lord for men like Vernon Robinson who will represent both Christians and conservatives and athiests and pagans against the intolerant liberal and foolish politicians and their activist supports who destroy our sovereign republic using the manufactured lie of separation of Church and state that take the rights afforded to Christians and other American's. Christians are the best government officials and secular atheists and pagans are the worst.
"Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD!"
20 posted on 01/21/2004 5:19:58 AM PST by wgeorge2001 ( In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.)
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