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IA caucus - Kerry 38% (winner), Edwards 32%, Dean 18% (97% reporting) (Gephardt drops out)
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Posted on 01/19/2004 3:21:18 PM PST by calvin sun

FYI it's being carried live on Cspan. They said coverage starts at 7 pm ET, with the actual caucus at 7:30 pm ET.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; alllosers; caucus; dean; drjudithsteinberg; edwardswatch; election; howarddean; iowa; judithsteinberg; steinberg
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To: calvin sun
DEAN 18% HA HA HA HA!!!!!!

HE IS PROBABLY TRASHING HIS HOTEL ROOM IN A FIT OF RAGE AS WE SPEAK.
1,761 posted on 01/19/2004 7:05:39 PM PST by TheRedSoxWinThePennant (NOPE STILL NOT OVER IT!!)
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To: Mo1
My faith in the good people from SC to find this guy to be ingenuine is almost as absolute.
1,762 posted on 01/19/2004 7:05:54 PM PST by kcar
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To: BCrago66
Fork in Dean?

I think it was Carl Cameron --don't know if he was speaking for himself or quoting someone.
1,763 posted on 01/19/2004 7:05:58 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: KQQL
Kerry and W race will be close !

I'm afraid you're right, if job creation doesn't pick up pretty soon. If it does, Dubya should win, but maybe by less than a landslide. Kerry will try to walk a tightrope and contend Bush doesn't know what he's doing in Iraq and the war was unjust, while simultaneously not saying he'd withdraw from Iraq. This could be seen by the mushy middle as the talking out of both sides of his mouth that it is, or as a more "sophisticated" approach to foreign policy. If the Bush team just assumes everyone will see it the first way, they're probably miscalculating (again). A skillful campaign should knock him off the tightrope.

1,764 posted on 01/19/2004 7:06:00 PM PST by lasereye
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To: BCrago66
It's official. Gephardt will give a speech in St. Louis tomorrow formally dropping out.

"I am a miserable failure."

1,765 posted on 01/19/2004 7:06:07 PM PST by mr.sarcastic
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To: Lanza
Ed Rendell PA gov on Fox: AAAAAARRGGGH another tax and spend governor, Dem out of Philly. All this guy does is propose higher taxes and casino gambling.
1,766 posted on 01/19/2004 7:06:13 PM PST by Ciexyz
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To: Lawgvr1955

1,767 posted on 01/19/2004 7:06:20 PM PST by Diogenesis (If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us)
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To: ozzysmom
The 17-29 share of the age cohort vote nearly doubled in Iowa from last time, from 9% to 17%.
1,768 posted on 01/19/2004 7:06:20 PM PST by Torie
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To: ctonious; Constitution Day
I agree with your comment that folks from the Tar Heel State owe it to the nation to get the word out about John Edwards before the Democrats do something dumb and put him on the ticket. Back in 1992, Arkansans told the truth to the national press and to the rest of the country, but no one was paying attention.

Now, WE need to make a serious effort through talk radio and on the Internet, to get the word out about Edwards. The people who know him best, don't like him. He can't, and shouldn't, be reelected to the Senate. So where does he get off telling the rest of the nation that he can "carry the South"?

We have our work cut out for us. Time to get cracking.

Congressman Billybob

Click here, then click the blue CFR button, to join the anti-CFR effort (or visit the "Hugh & Series, Critical & Pulled by JimRob" thread).

1,769 posted on 01/19/2004 7:06:41 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com Visit. Join. Help. Please.)
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To: StarFan
I'm not surprised. When was the last time a sitting House member won a presidential nomination? Poco Loco's national aspirations are finished - he'll never be President.
1,770 posted on 01/19/2004 7:06:43 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Salvation
Gephardt IS dropping out, leave the race!

That's about as significant as me, Laz, leaving the Republican primaries.

1,771 posted on 01/19/2004 7:06:45 PM PST by Lazamataz (New York City has always been, and always will be, America's switchblade.)
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To: TheRedSoxWinThePennant
Just what we need, Dean even madder! HAHAHAHAHAH.
1,772 posted on 01/19/2004 7:07:03 PM PST by Simmy2.5 (Dean...If you want the whole US to be like Gray Davis' California, VOTE FOR ME!)
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To: mr.sarcastic
**"I am a miserable failure."**

Can't help but smile. This has been a fun thread!
1,773 posted on 01/19/2004 7:07:06 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: TheRedSoxWinThePennant
I'm guessing he's hyperventilating--having a panic attack.

It's a good thing he brought in his personal physician from Vermont yesterday.

1,774 posted on 01/19/2004 7:07:19 PM PST by Kevin Curry
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To: cynwoody

Who's that guy on eht right ?

From http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/cold.war/kbank/profiles/ortega/


Ortega

Daniel Ortega Saavedra

Born in La Libertad, Nicaragua, on November 11, 1945, to middle-class parents who were actively opposed to Nicaragua's dictator, Anastasio Somoza, Ortega was first arrested for his political activities at the age of 15.

During the early 1960s, after only a few months as a student at the Central American University in Managua, he joined the underground Sandinista National Liberation Front (FSLN). He was put in charge of its urban guerrilla wing in 1967. However, that same year Somoza's National Guard captured him. Ortega was in prison until 1974. Upon his release, the result of a Sandinista hostage taking, he went to Cuba and next returned to Nicaragua to continue what was now a war against the government.

Ortega was one of the leading commanders of the forces that ousted Somoza in July 1979 and became the head of the ruling junta at the head of the government of national reconstruction. A coalition of various opposition groups at first, the junta quickly became the exclusive domain of the Sandinistas as the other members left, dissatisfied with what was turning into a leftist and somewhat corrupt dictatorship. However, the Sandinista regime did initiate significant reforms that, in many cases, were of great benefit to Nicaragua's poor and could have achieved more, had it not been for a new civil war.

In November 1984, the Sandinistas were victorious in national elections, and Ortega became Nicaragua's president. Opponents charged that the Sandinistas had manipulated conditions during the election campaign in such a way that, although clean at first sight, the vote was actually rather tainted. The U.S. government of Ronald Reagan shared the opposition's criticisms and further intensified U.S. support for the so-called "Contra" rebels -- a coalition of dissatisfied peasants, former Sandinista allies and Somozistas. The result was a cruel and costly civil war that in 1989 compelled the Sandinistas to accept a peace arrangement negotiated by Costa Rican President Oscar Arias Sanchez.

In the February 1990 elections under the Arias agreement, Ortega and the Sandinistas lost to a right-centrist coalition led by Violeta Barrios de Chamorro. Ortega relinquished the presidency the following April. Since that time, he has remained an influential leader in the Sandinista movement and through it, although less so recently, in Nicaraguan politics. Most recently, he has been in the news in connection with accusations of sexual abuse by a female member of his family.


1,775 posted on 01/19/2004 7:07:29 PM PST by ChadGore (George W. Bush has done more to earn my vote than any other American alive today.)
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To: Sofa King
Hey, Jason.

Interesting results, huh? Dean my be finished if he can't gain support VERY QUICKLY, and Edwards will be more of a player than anyone thought.


It certainly blew away everything I thought was going to happen. Dean may have been overhyped big time. I know Rush will have a lot to say about this tomorrow. If all Dean had was this one-note anti-war hate Bush message, then he's cooked. He needs to stage a comeback plan and fast.

Edwards' surge really surprised me. If he should become a big threat to Kerry or whoever, look for the long knives to come after him. I think he'll ultimately be a VP candidate to Kerry when it's all said and done.

One thing Dean's learned is not to mess with Don Clinteone!
1,776 posted on 01/19/2004 7:07:29 PM PST by Galactic Overlord-In-Chief (Why is Hillary a good cure for constipation? She scares the crap out of people.)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
...saw a part about the incident but didn't buy the book.

They're tryin' to tell us Brinkley (the author) didn't look this guy up?

I don't buy THAT!

1,777 posted on 01/19/2004 7:07:38 PM PST by Timeout ("Earn this. Earn it."....)
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To: MattAMiller
IT'S A COOKBOOK!
1,778 posted on 01/19/2004 7:07:48 PM PST by Fledermaus (I hope the State of the Union address calls for less spending and more control over our money!)
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To: Revolting cat!
Just great....the Grime Reaper and the Chesire Cat......
1,779 posted on 01/19/2004 7:07:49 PM PST by Krodg
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To: Lanza
Paul Tsongas beat Klintoon. Odd. Tsongas was from Mass, but he wasn't a gay communist.
1,780 posted on 01/19/2004 7:07:50 PM PST by Poser
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