Rush's PERFECT comments Re: Donovan McNabb

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[Pukin Dog]

For those who missed it, Limbaugh performed the most perfect comments on Donovan McNabb this morning by not even mentioning his name.

Instead he contrasted the way that Payton Manning came out and took responsibility for his performance against the way that the media instantly set out to blame the Eagles' wide recievers for what happened to them.

It was the best revenge, because by not mentioning McNabb, no one in the media can say that Rush attacked McNabb, but to all us football fans, what Rush DIDNT say, was LOUD AND CLEAR. Thanks Rush!

[discostu]

Here's the ESPN coverage
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs03/news/story?id=1712217
"Donovan would have continued to play until he passed out," coach Andy Reid said. "But I wasn't going to go there."



If the coach says "sit down" then you sit down.

[CyberCowboy777]

You are right.

I am just tired of the excuses. When he gets two or three Super Bowls under his belt (not even won SBs) come talk to me about being a great QB.

He is an average QB.

[CyberCowboy777]

Yeah.

Were the ribs broken or bruised?

[Poser]

"The bottom line is that McNabb was flat on his back, legs sticking up, and Favors threw his full body weight on the back of McNabb's left thigh.

If you disagree with the previous paragraph, watch the replay, as it's not my job to educate you. "

I've got to disagree here. I think I have now seen the play over a hundred times at various speeds. It was a glancing blow at best with most of the weight landing on the ground. I'm not arguing that it didn't cause an injury, just that his "full body weight" did not land any place but the ground.

[F16Fighter]

"Pure scramblers, no. But Staubach, Stabler, and Elway were great QB's who also happened to be great scramblers."

True -- occassionally those guys were capable of ad libbing, while they knew ultimately the priority roles of playing QB and winning meant:

1) reading defense alignments

2)adapting and adjusting to said defensive alignments

3) passing with efficiency

4) communicating with your own receivers

5) knowing when hold 'em and when to fold 'em. (something Favre never quite learned himself)

Ad libbing, scrambling, and "making things happen" off of broken plays is rarely the rule against well-prepared defenses this deep into the playoffs -- as McNabb has now proven three straight years.

[discostu]

Marino only made it to the big dance once. Superbowl appearances are a rough meassure. When the press decides they're going to say a guy is great they're going to keep saying it over and over until he seriously screws up. Regardless of McNabb's mediocrity the Eagles are a much better team with him than they were without him, in this day after the golden age of QBs it's going to take a lot for the press to stop lionizing a guy that gives good interview (IMHO the real reason they love him so much).

[Land of the Free 04]

"Donovan would have continued to play until he passed out," coach Andy Reid said. "But I wasn't going to go there."

He should have punched out Ried and gone back in---the wimp!

[discostu]

Doesn't matter. The coach said "sit down". That might be an indictment of his skills, or his leadership, or even his coach's confidence in him, but it is not wimping out when you want to go in but the coach says no.

[discostu]

This is the NFL not the NBA, the NFL doesn't put up with players beating on their coaches.

[Moby Grape]

McNabb was overated by the media...period.

Rush DID not interject RACE..that is B*S*...the SUBJECT of the ESPN segment THAT day was "What is wrong with McNabb?"...Rush JOINED in on the commentary, saying that the MEDIA was only talking about McNabb (because they want a black QB to be successful) while IGNORING their problems (at that time) with DEFENSE..He pointed out that putting ALL the expectations on McNabb was wrong..the problem was with the team (McNabb was DEAD last in the ratings at that time)...AFTER Rush finished speaking, Michael Irving said, "RUSH HAS A POINT"....NOW, it was the MEDIA that RUSH was talking about...

Rush did NOT come up with the segment idea ("WHAT IS WRONG WITH McNABB), ESPN came up with the segment idea...

[Land of the Free 04]

He is an average QB.

Agreed.

[Lando Lincoln]

Hey L4B.....I agree about McNabb's injury yesterday. Many years ago in my "youthful, vibrant, tough-guy" days I separated some ribs while horseplaying around a swimming pool. Completely and totally debilitating. Can't imagine playing quarterback.

Also, I remember Paul Molitor (with the Brewers at the time) separating his ribs and missing nearly an entire season because of the pain when swinging a bat.

No one can say what pain McNabb was feeling yesterday except McNabb. I wouldn't be surprised if it lingers for some time.

I also agree with you, that the quarterback was not the reason the Eagles lost. They lost to a group of guys that play a team sport in a team fashion. It's trite, but the whole is better than the sum of the parts.

Lando

[Land of the Free 04]

How about choking them?

[NittanyLion]

Ad libbing, scrambling, and "making things happen" off of broken plays is rarely the rule against well-prepared defenses this deep into the playoffs -- as McNabb has now proven three straight years.

That has an awful lot to do with these losses. I'd say an additional factor is the lack of physical receivers on the Eagles' team - good defenses in the playoffs are jamming them at the line, and these receivers can't get into their normal route as a result.

[discostu]

Nope. But it's OK to make them cry so forgeting their birthday is a perfectly legitimate form of protest.

[jaime1959]

> Since Rush's remark, his critics have injected politics every time they mentioned his name. <

Rush is the foremost political commentator in the country. What would you expect?

> Rush basically charged the press with racism; their response was to accuse the accuser. <

No, he didn't. He said the press was rooting for McNabb to do well because they wanted to see a black QB succeed. That's not racism.

> The process for interviewing coaches in the NFL confirms that politics is very much part of the game now. Why is it forbidden to comment about it? <

Rush was not commenting about the hiring process; he was talking about McNabb being overrated. And the ridiculous interview requirements for hiring a new head coach topic is really not appropriate for the format of the show he was on anyway.

[Moby Grape]

Nittany... I agree that McNabb is a leader...he is usually cool and can make big plays...ALL teams want players who can pull off big plays when they have to be had, but it is my view that the DEFENSE made them a winning team the last four years...big play makers by themselves cannot assure success...the odds catch up with them. It takes balance to go the the big game.

[dmzTahoe]

"If the coach says "sit down" then you sit down.

In this high-stake game, the coach will not tell him to sit unless the player (a) gives an indication to the coach that he can't go on and/or (b) the coach feels that the backup can do a better job than the "injured" player. I'd say that "a" happened, since a McNabb at 30% would be better than a 100% Detmer.

[Alberta's Child]

The NFLPA doesn't care about "movement" -- it only cares about movement if it is accompanied by higher salaries. Under today's rules, I can only offer my running back $2.5 million to keep him on my team, which means that any other team would have to offer him $2.5+ million to sign him away (if he is interested in leaving just to play somewhere else, he can simply sign with them for $1.5 million even though I'm offering more). Under my proposed system, I would be able to offer him twice as much money as the current rules allow -- I don't see how the NFLPA could possibly complain about this.

Something else to keep in mind is that "player movement" is exactly what has caused the quality of play in the NFL to decline so much over the years -- there's simply no chemistry on any team these days.

My guess is that the NFLPA would love to consider changes in the terms of the salary cap -- because it turns out that it wasn't all that it was supposed to be. A team that signs a couple of high-priced free agents is often forced to scale back on their offers to other players, and the end result is that salaries for key players have gone up while salaries for most of the NFLPA members are actually quite low -- especially when you consider that they don't have guaranteed contracts. The NFL is the only major professional league that allows teams to "re-negotiate" the terms of a player's contract without any input from the player himself. That's pretty ridiculous, I'd say.

[jaime1959]

I saw the show and Rush DID inject race into the discussion. Nobody was saying anything about McNabb's color until Rush brought it up. It was a total non-sequiteur.

And FWIW, having an idiot like Michael Irvin agree with you is not a positive.