Conservative groups break with Republican leadership

The Washington Times ^ | 1/16/2004 | Ralph Z. Hallow

[Ricardo4CP]

National leaders of six conservative organizations yesterday broke with the Republican majorities in the House and Senate, accusing them of spending like "drunken sailors," and had some strong words for President Bush as well...

[putupon]

I criticize Bush with a fair frequency and nobody has ever given me one second's worth of hassle.

Then your critism is too mild.If they're not POed, you haven't made your point.

[BigSkyFreeper]

If you can demonstrate that this country was polarized 50/50 down the middle like it is now, then maybe you have a good argument. Howard Dean is largely unelectable, and any far right wing candidate would be unelectable. If it angers you that a sitting President is playing essentially to the middle, that's your beast of burden. I don't know what caused the Republican party to be started, except that the Whigs were corrupt. The Democrats have been corrupt ever since they embraced social engineering welfare ideas that go back to FDR's administration.

[Jim Robinson]

Different circumstances, different times. I sincerely doubt that there is the level of outrage within the general population today as there was then. In fact I can guarantee you there is not. The vast majority of the voters are still have complete confidence in one or the other of the two major parties. Third parties will be pulling a tiny percentage of the total vote. It'll be GWB by a landslide in '04 and many more Republicans swept in to the Congress and statehouses on his coattails. The end of liberalism as we know it is near. The soundly defeated Democrat Party will be wandering in the wilderness for 40 years.

[PSYCHO-FREEP]

I have real problems understanding why you and your types take such a cynical view of the President.

Name one incident or document that proves or substantiates him selling out the Republican Party or the voting base.

Spare us the usual mantra-rant about CFR, Immigration, spending, etc. because those issues are all based on projected accusations in the first place.

[EGPWS]

If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquillity of servitude than the animating contest of freedom, - go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen!

Without the ability to obtain personal wealth, there is no liberty, and without liberty how can one be able to pursue the search for less monetary tranquility?

I'll go in peace....

[MEG33]

I never take an election for granted until the votes are counted!I hope you are right.

[Jim Robinson]

You will never see me admit any such thing. By your logic, you are admitting that you favor the Democrats retaking power and instituting socialism and subjugation to the U.N.

[jgrubbs]

The Democrats have been corrupt ever since they embraced social engineering welfare ideas that go back to FDR's administration.

I agree 100%

It scares me to see the Republicans embracing and increasing "social engineering welfare ideas that go back to FDR's administration". If we continue in the direction we are heading, we will have to corrupt libreal parties and no conservative representation. Both parties know they can win votes by giving the voters what they want, instead of doing what is right for the country while using the US Constitution as the rule of law.

[Recovering_Democrat]

Everything's a no-no at FR except licking Commissar Bush's boots.

Unnecessary comment and wrong. Big Time.

[MEG33]

I do not believe you are correct in your opinion and respectfully and firmly disagree.God bless President Bush,the United States of America and the American armed forces.

[PSYCHO-FREEP]

The two parties are as different as day and night!

You keep making that claim but the differences are as plain as the nose on your face.

Unless you do what you claim you will do, cut it off to spite your face.

[jgrubbs]

It'll be GWB by a landslide in '04...The end of liberalism as we know it is near. The soundly defeated Democrat Party will be wandering in the wilderness for 40 years.

I think GWB will win in '04, but I'm afraid Hillary will come back as the "saviour of the Democratic Party in 2008. If Bush pushes through as many liberal policies as he did these first 4 years, then Hillary won't have too far to go to get the country to move as far left as she would like.

[Recovering_Democrat]

The end of liberalism as we know it is near. The soundly defeated Democrat Party will be wandering in the wilderness for 40 years.

I pray, pray you're right Jim. Any chance of G.W. taking your state of California, in your opinion?

[alnick]

Oh, please, he didn't undo decades of incrementalism in one fell swoop so his efforts regarding the pro-life and pro-family agenda are irrelevant? Get real.

[PhiKapMom]

Senator James Inhofe and Senator Don Nickles are two of the most conservative members of the Senate along with Senator Jeff Sessions of AL. President Bush has contact with these Senators and more conservative Republicans in Congress. If anyone dares call James Inhofe anything but conservative, then I don't have the foggiest idea what it means to be a conservative.

Ron Paul is a Republican only because he cannot get elected if he were anything else. He very seldom supports the President on anything including tax cuts. Why would Pres Bush rely on him for anything when he has conservatives he can rely on unless you don't consider Tom Delay a conservative either.

That's why so many of you lose your arguments -- you paint a broad brush about this President when you don't have facts to back them up.

BTW, Constitution Party, is not, never was, and never will be a part of the Republican Party.

[Little Bill]

Pod:

The trouble with these posts is that we all get pissed off and forget the reason we all signed on FR. I ain't a bush bot, but he is the best of possible choises. It is my contention that the House is the key to blocking a lot of trash that that comes down from those in the big tent. Write call and be a pain in the neck.

Bill

[BigSkyFreeper]

I haven't licked Bush's boots, and I'm not about to. I won't even waste my vote on a party that largely garners 1% of the vote every 4 years, and I'm not going to throw my support toward a Democrat who essentially wants to turn our national defense over to a world body that does not have our best interest at hand. If you believe the WOT is illegitimate, by all means, vote for the CP, if you think the UN can handle things better than Congress or the White House, vote Democrat, if you want to stay the course with obvious course changes where needed, vote Republican. It's up to you, you're the only one in the ballot box on election day. I'm just telling you how I see things. I'm voting for Bush, and I won't have to lick his boots either.

[Little Bill]

Race and I had seven pulled in one night, he had one restored, a three hundred poster so say 3/3.

Bill

[EGPWS]

Re-elect him and we'll only get more of the same.

Well, live in fear then for "your minds perception" of GWB WILL be around for another 4 years. It will, however be a day of celebration for most of the public when he get inaugurated for a second term.

[BigSkyFreeper]

Correct me if I'm wrong, wasn't Ron Paul a Democrat at one time?