McNabb's amazing career built on proving doubters wrong [Limbaugh]

USA Today ^ | 1/14/04 | Ian O'Connor

[Dr. Scarpetta]

Recruiters would come to Frank Lenti's door on the South Side of Chicago, men who did not necessarily subscribe to RUSH LIMBAUGH'S articles of faith, and they would tell the head coach at Mount Carmel High how much they wanted Donovan McNabb to play for their teams.

[demlosers]

Rush lead on his show today with the Mcnabb controversy.

[Dr. Scarpetta]

*Ping

[Pikamax]

"It doesn't matter that Limbaugh probably still believes McNabb was the one who cracked under pressure with a bailout lob, and Favre was the one who showed true grit in the face of fourth-and-26.

The films don't lie. In this case, they show a pocket passer being "very desirous" of securing a first down without any help from the press box.
"

must have been a different film, I saw a packers defense play some horrible coverage( would it have hurt to jam the WR) and Farve throwing a ball that still defies explanation.

[Egregious Philbin]

Rush lead on his show today with the Mcnabb controversy.

What'd he say? Still defending his foolish statement?

[Dr. Scarpetta]

*Ping

[gdani]

What'd he say? Still defending his foolish statement?

If he's still set on showing his "knowledge" re: football it would seem that he would have plenty of non-McNabb ammo re: Green Bay's soft defense & Favre's throw (both already mentioned) as well as Mike Martz's decision to not go for the win with time running out in St Louis.

Or, heck, he could fill the day talking about that idiot, Pete Rose.

[shoeno]

I disagree that Rush's statement was foolish. The statistics bear him out. The Eagles offense is run oriented and McNabb's throwing stats don't rank him in the top 10 in any of his years as a starter. His teams have won on defense, and have never reached a Super Bowl. Only one black QB has won a Super Bowl, and Doug Williams was a pocket passer. I think his assertion that McNabb is considered a top QB by the media when the stats don't support it is evidence of him be correct.

[Always Right]

Limbaugh would end up out of a job, too, for taking the Philadelphia Eagles' slow start as an opportunity to tell his ESPN audience that McNabb was a fraud. A media creation. A black quarterback getting by on the color of his skin.

This guy is a fraud for representing what Limbaugh said in that way.

[Dazedcat]

I think I must have been watching a different football game then. The second half pretty much degenerated into a sandlot game with the Packers abandoning their rushing game completely, playing bad defense and Farve looking like a rookie.

McNabb rushed for over 100 yards.......does that measure greatness???? If so, Bobby Douglas has to be the greatest quarterback ever. I have little use for Limbaugh, but in this case he was right, McNabb is horribly overrated.

[demlosers]

What'd he say? Still defending his foolish statement?

He played the whole ESPN episode in its entirety. The first time I heard the discussion in context.

It wasn't a foolish statement by itself. However, it did let his enemies fake their understanding of the comment by eluding racism. In that sense, it may have been foolish.

[End Times Sentinel]

I saw a packers defense play some horrible coverage( would it have hurt to jam the WR)

You're right on the jam- Bha Jue has incredible physical ability, but is still very raw.  I'd take him on my roster in half a heartbeat, though.  Those techniques can be taught and learned.

Really, it was a matter of giving about a one yard space to make a perfect catch and then withstand a killer blow from Sharper and Anderson.  That pass will work one time in, maybe, fifty.  I'd like those odds if I'm the Pack.  You certainly didn't want Mitchell getting behind the deep help and it makes sense to keep Jue close to the line and send in the LBers while McNabb waits for the routes to develop behind an O line that wasn't pass blocking well.

 Farve throwing a ball that still defies explanation.

Actually, as an Eagles fan and Football Geek, I can explain it: 

One factor is that Favre had been sitting on the bench for about 25 minutes through the two minute warning, end of regulation, the OT time out and the Eagles first drive.  Not the type of routine that's going to lead him to being in a groove and likely responsible for so much air being under the ball.

However, the decision to make the throw itself was a sound one.  When Favre came to the line he saw SS Michael Lewis walking to the line and the LBers showing blitz as well.  6-4 Javon Walker was lined up against 5-9 Lito Shepard with FS Brian Dawkins responsible for help across the top on both sides of the field. 

IF Walker had run a post pattern (he either had the wrong route or missed a line adjustment) he would have been in perfect position to catch the pass, but instead he ran a double move and was three yards inside and three yards short.  Walker has about a foot and a half when fully extended and leaping on both Shepard and Dawkins and VERY strong hands.  He SHOULD have caught that and GB would have had first and 10 on the Eagles 30 with Ahman Green running hard.

Owl_Eagle

" WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
DIVERSITY IS STRENGTH"

I saw a packers defense play some horrible coverage( would it have hurt to jam the WR)

You're right on the jam- Bha Jue has incredible physical ability, but is still very raw.  I'd take him on my roster in half a heartbeat, though.  Those techniques can be taught and learned.

Really, it was a matter of giving about a one yard space to make a perfect catch and then withstand a killer blow from Sharper and Anderson.  That pass will work one time in, maybe, fifty.  I'd like those odds if I'm the Pack.  You certainly didn't want Mitchell getting behind the deep help and it makes sense to keep Jue close to the line and send in the LBers while McNabb waits for the routes to develop behind an O line that wasn't pass blocking well.

 Farve throwing a ball that still defies explanation.

Owl_Eagle

[PianoMan]

Yet another article that proves what Rush was saying. McNabb threw half his passes in the dirt, at least at the beginning of the game. He had one good drive. Favre lost the game with one of his occasional bonehead heaves. Not to mention that failed goal line stand. McNabb dethroning Favre? Only in the liberal imagination.

[PianoMan]

I figured the thumb got in the way. You clearly see more than me though.

[Dr. Scarpetta]

I disagree that Rush's statement was foolish.

It's irrelevant whether the statement was foolish or not. The media found it's chance to go after Rush, and they took it. He should have used better JUDGEMENT, knowing how much they despise him.

[USA4ME]

McNabb is not that good of a QB. He wasn't very good at Syracuse either. He's very athletic, but he can't think.

[Capt. Jake]

Perhaps more to the point, has there ever been a quarterback who had as many endorsement deals as McNabb with as few team accomplishments to his credit or with such middle-of-the-pack individual statistics? The guy is in more commercials than any other player. He is very good, but also overrated.

[KneelBeforeZod]

limbaugh was going out on a limb and it bit him.

then again I hear him spin practically every day.

[End Times Sentinel]

 I think his assertion that McNabb is considered a top QB by the media when the stats don't support it is evidence of him be correct.

As a huge fan of "The Magnificent Number Five" I'd have to say that at the point he'd made that statement he was correct.  McNabb was very average most of the 2002 season (save for the Cardinals game in which he played with the broken leg), and was undistinguished in both of the playoff games.  He didn't show much in pre-Season, nor did he in the first two games.

Still THE MEDIA just loved him.  John Lott proved this with an extensive Lexis Nexis search and analysis.  Yet time and again, you hear the "racist" label or "Limbaugh said McNabb can't play because he's black" in an attempt to distort reality.

Owl_Eagle

" WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
DIVERSITY IS STRENGTH"

 I think his assertion that McNabb is considered a top QB by the media when the stats don't support it is evidence of him be correct.

As a huge fan of "The Magnificent Number Five" I'd have to say that at the point he'd made that statement he was correct.  McNabb was very average most of the 2002 season (save for the Cardinals game in which he played with the broken leg), and was undistinguished in both of the playoff games.  He didn't show much in pre-Season, nor did he in the first two games.

Still THE MEDIA just loved him.  John Lott proved this with an extensive Lexis Nexis search and analysis.  Yet time and again, you hear the "racist" label or "Limbaugh said McNabb can't play because he's black" in an attempt to distort reality.

Owl_Eagle

[Puppage]

to tell his ESPN audience that McNabb was a fraud. A media creation. A black quarterback getting by on the color of his skin.

He said NO SUCH THING!!!!