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Aiming for the Hill Two more Senate seats for the GOP?
NRO ^ | 1/14/04 | John J. Miller

Posted on 01/14/2004 6:29:34 AM PST by chiller

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Sounds like a worst case scenario, at first glance.
1 posted on 01/14/2004 6:29:36 AM PST by chiller
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I hope that this is an underestimate. Oklahoma has me kind of surprised though i would have thought that would be an easy GOP victory same with the Bowles race.
2 posted on 01/14/2004 6:41:20 AM PST by DM1
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To: chiller
Georgia will go GOP.

Herman Cain all the way!
3 posted on 01/14/2004 6:42:31 AM PST by eyespysomething (Another American optimist!)
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To: eyespysomething
I've heard Cain on the M. Medved show. Sharp guy. Love to see him in the Senate.
4 posted on 01/14/2004 6:47:53 AM PST by chiller (could be wrong, but doubt it)
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It is..and the point is that if everything breaks the right way..it could be a huge GOP pick-up..BTW..I'm not worried about Alaska....for the Dems to win that seat, it would mean that 40% of Alaska's voters would have to split their tickets...what is important is that the Dems are gnna have to spend big $ on a lot of Senate races..which they don't have...
5 posted on 01/14/2004 6:50:34 AM PST by ken5050
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To: chiller
It is..and the point is that if everything breaks the right way..it could be a huge GOP pick-up..BTW..I'm not worried about Alaska....for the Dems to win that seat, it would mean that 40% of Alaska's voters would have to split their tickets...what is important is that the Dems are g0nna have to spend big $ on a lot of Senate races..which they don't have...
6 posted on 01/14/2004 6:50:43 AM PST by ken5050
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It is..and the point is that if everything breaks the right way..it could be a huge GOP pick-up..BTW..I'm not worried about Alaska....for the Dems to win that seat, it would mean that 40% of Alaska's voters would have to split their tickets...what is important is that the Dems are g0nna have to spend big $ on a lot of Senate races..which they don't have...
7 posted on 01/14/2004 6:50:51 AM PST by ken5050
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To: DM1
Am from Oklahoma and believe he has the Oklahoma race pegged wrong. Carson, Dem from NE OK, voted against some of the tax cuts, is not conservative, and will not do well in the rest of Oklahoma especially OKC area where Kirk Humphreys, the Republican, will run very well. We have five Congressmen -- 4 Republicans and Carson the RAT and this guy wants me to believe that our four Congressional districts that are Republican along with Pres Bush on the ballot, are going to elect a RAT to the Senate for six years. No way, no how! This is a Bush State that is already disgusted with all the Dems coming in the State and will go bigtime for Bush. Oklahoma is Republican at the Nation level and with all good fortune will be Republican in at least one House of the Legislature and a Republican Governor in 2006 -- can you say Governor Watts?

As to credibility of the writer -- he lost with Florida and saying that Harris will challenge "Ben" Nelson. If the writer doesn't know that "Ben" Nelson is from Nebraska and that "Bill" Nelson is from Florida, not sure that I would believe the rest of what he has to say.

Ditto your remarks on Bowles as well.
8 posted on 01/14/2004 7:10:38 AM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Support Bush-Cheney '04)
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To: PhiKapMom
RE:MISSOURI-Kit Bond vs. Nancy Farmer? She is a gun-grabber for all those who do not know. She opposed CCW. I have info/facts,etc. But don't wnat to turn this thread into an RKBA issue.

Kit Bond is safe-as far as I know.

RE:NRA endorsement of Arlan Specter? I've emailed them to ascertain the facts. Author of this piece seems a bit "disjointed."

Do you or anyone else here think BEN Nelson of Nebraska can be pushed to become a Republican? Or at least endorse GWB ala Zel Miller? Or is he too far gone?

9 posted on 01/14/2004 7:29:28 AM PST by donozark
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To: PhiKapMom
That Ben Nelson comment jarred my brain as well.

I certainly hope that Katherine Harris rethinks her wish to run in '04. McAuliffe and Co are going to make Florida one ugly place for President Bush as it is. Her candidacy would just provide them with red meat, and President Bush with a more difficult campaign as he visits that state.
10 posted on 01/14/2004 7:38:53 AM PST by maica (Laus Deo)
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To: chiller
Sounds like a worst case scenario, at first glance.

Could be.

Advocates of the Karl Rove "where else are conservatives gonna go" approach to CFR/Prescription Drugs/Amnesty for Illegals/domestic politics ought to take note, however. While disaffected members of the party rank-and-file might not go anywhere, they also might not go to the polls.

A drop of a couple of points on turnout won't likely affect the re-election of President Bush, but it could have a great affect on a lot of close races in the House and Senate.


11 posted on 01/14/2004 7:47:48 AM PST by Sabertooth (Eighteen solutions better than any Amnesty - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1053318/posts)
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I know most "true believers" on this forum disdain Karl Rove, and I understand why. I also have the same frustrations about "compromising" that lead to these concerns. Let's remember that Rove has three jobs this election:

1) Re-elect the President--JOB ONE OVER ALL

2) Extend the House majority -- the Texas redistricting has all but guaranteed that, but he know the larger the majority, the more permanent the shift...

3) Get as close to 60 in the Senate as possible...because HE KNOWS THAT IT'S ALL ABOUT THE JUDGES. They stay for LIFE, which is why the Dems are willing to do ANYTHING to stop them. And if that means running RINOS like Marin in CA, Specter in PA, and the like, to get to 60 Republicans in the Senate, THAT IS WHAT HE WILL DO.

All I am saying is that this is his focus...and after watching how the Dems peed on the Constitution by forcing judges to get a super-majority in the Senate, and the press and public did nothing, then you are gonna have to swallow a few RINOs in blue states. Freepers need to keep this is mind.
12 posted on 01/14/2004 8:15:57 AM PST by Keith (IT'S ALL ABOUT THE JUDGES)
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3) Get as close to 60 in the Senate as possible...because HE KNOWS THAT IT'S ALL ABOUT THE JUDGES. They stay for LIFE, which is why the Dems are willing to do ANYTHING to stop them. And if that means running RINOS like Marin in CA, Specter in PA, and the like, to get to 60 Republicans in the Senate, THAT IS WHAT HE WILL DO.

All I am saying is that this is his focus...and after watching how the Dems peed on the Constitution by forcing judges to get a super-majority in the Senate, and the press and public did nothing, then you are gonna have to swallow a few RINOs in blue states. Freepers need to keep this is mind.

The point I'm making is that excusing every blunder and exasperating triangulation of the Bush/Rove strategery might actually hinder GOP prospects this November.

I know that might not sway the "don't let the door hit you in the butt" style of coalition-builders, but more thoughtful Freepers ought to keep that in mind.


13 posted on 01/14/2004 8:22:07 AM PST by Sabertooth (Eighteen solutions better than any Amnesty - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1053318/posts)
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To: Keith
Agreed. Judges is Job #1. Your tag has prompted me to change my tag. Thanks for the nudge.
14 posted on 01/14/2004 8:47:57 AM PST by chiller (JUDGES is JOB #1)
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To: donozark
Sen Ben Nelson has voted the Bush agenda almost all the time he has been in office. Have heard rumors of his possibility walking the aisle but not sure how true they are, but it wouldn't surprise me to see him before his reelection become a Republican in his reelection bid.
15 posted on 01/14/2004 8:48:00 AM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Support Bush-Cheney '04)
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To: maica
I am with you -- do not want Kathryn Harris running with Pres Bush on the ballot. In fact, I cannot even believe she is considering a run.
16 posted on 01/14/2004 8:48:55 AM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Support Bush-Cheney '04)
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Oklahoma and North Carolina "toss ups" ?????? Yeah right!
17 posted on 01/14/2004 11:47:11 AM PST by jmaroneps37 ( Support how-odd? in the primaries, get us 4 more senate seats! hilarity clinocchio will never run.)
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Chiller,

I think 53 seats is actually a very "worst case scenario" picture for the Senate in 2004.

You have Oklahoma in the tossup category, but I have to believe that with GW Bush on the top of the ticket, we should be able to hold onto this seat with relatively little problem. I also think you underestimate our position in South Carolina where we should pick up that seat with little trouble...I can't imagine that a left wing woman (Tenenbaum) will fare well in South Carolina, especially in a Presidential Election year.

The only seat that we should lose is in Illinois where I think we are pretty much doomed with the way that state is trending. I know Knowles is a strong candidate in Alaksa, but I just cannot see us losing there...it's been decades since a Democrat won a Senate seat in that state. Also, we may be in a tough race in North Carolina, but we should be able to pull that one out, especially if the Democrats are dumb enough to have Dean on the top of their ticket.

If Dean is the nominee, I think we should win EVERY seat in the South except Arkansas. That means net pickups in Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, Florida and even Louisiana. Also, we are far from out of the picture in Arkansas...and it's not unthinkable that we could swing upsets in places like South Dakota and Nevada with Dean on the ticket. And if we capture Bin Laden by the election...hell...even California, North Dakota and Washington are within reach!!!
18 posted on 01/14/2004 7:21:37 PM PST by MarkDel
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I am not a "don't let the door hit you in the butt" type of freeper...but those who can't hold their nose and pull the pubbie lever are simply helping Teddy the Swimmer continue to block conservative judges...

THAT is a shame.
19 posted on 01/14/2004 11:02:35 PM PST by Keith (IT'S ALL ABOUT THE JUDGES)
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To: Keith
I am not a "don't let the door hit you in the butt" type of freeper...but those who can't hold their nose and pull the pubbie lever are simply helping Teddy the Swimmer continue to block conservative judges...

THAT is a shame.

I disagree.

Politicians are superficial, thick-as-brick gladhanders, subject only to the logic of a well-struck 2x4.

When politicians refuse to listen to their constituents, and lose elections in the process, then the feckless twits have only themselves to blame.


20 posted on 01/14/2004 11:13:48 PM PST by Sabertooth (Eighteen solutions better than any Amnesty - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1053318/posts)
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