"Fat and stupid is no way to go through life, Margaret..."
Posted on 01/13/2004 11:39:44 PM PST by JohnHuang2
HOLLYWOOD VS. AMERICA
MoveOn stays on Bush-Hitler theme
After apologizing group hosts celebrity event with torrent of insults
© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com
Only a week after apologizing for posting messages comparing Bush to Hitler, the political organization MoveOn.org hosted a celebrity event that turned into a torrent of insults against the president and Republicans.
A partial transcript of speakers at New York's Hammerstein Ballroom Monday night was obtained by the Drudge Report. The event was to announce the winners of the website's "Bush in 30 Seconds" television ad contest.
Among the speakers was pop music superstar Moby, who said he had "contempt" for the president, calling him a "big, fat f---ing liar."
Last week, the anti-Bush website featured a second potential TV ad comparing President George W. Bush with Adolf Hitler.
The latest ad featured images of the German military and dictator with the words "What were war crimes in 1945 is foreign policy in 2003." The final two frames include Hitler with his hand raised and then a shot of Bush with his hand up taking the oath of office.
As WorldNetDaily reported, Republican National Committee Chairman Ed Gillespie called on the nine Democrat presidential candidates to repudiate the first Bush-Hitler ad posted on MoveOn.org.
That ad has since been removed from the website.
On Monday night, comedian Margaret Cho took up the Bush-Hitler theme:
"Despite all of this stupid bullsh-- that the Republican National Committee, or whatever the f--- they call them, that they were saying that they're all angry about how two of these ads were comparing Bush to Hitler? I mean, out of thousands of submissions, they find two. They're like fu--ing looking for Hitler in a haystack. You know? I mean, George Bush is not Hitler. He would be if he fu--ing applied himself. (big, extended applause) I mean he just isn't."I think this last year has just proven how stupid Republicans are. (big applause)
"For example, Judge Roy Moore, or Jay Moore or whatever, in Alabama. [inaudible] ... Ten Commandments statue stay in the lobby of a courthouse. 'You can't move the Word of God! You cannot remove the Franklin Mint edition of the Word of God!' [said in Southern accent] People are protesting there and like, I think it could have been solved so much easier if they had just placed a golden calf next to the statue and then people would have started worshipping that. And then they could have moved the Ten Commandments to Bush's office -- which he needs them, desperately. Or maybe he needs a new version of the Ten Commandments – George W. Bush's Ten Commandments: Thou shalt not steal ... votes. (big applause) Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's ... country. (big applause) Thou shalt not kill ... for oil. (big applause) Thou shalt not take grammar ... in vain. (big applause) I mean, whatever fu--ing happened to separation of church and state? I mean, you can't like, impose your god on my god. God has many names. God is God, God is Jehovah, God is Allah, God is Buddah, God is Beyonce. (laughter) You know, you cannot impose your God on other people.
"And ah, George W. Bush is coming out with the weirdest stance on same-sex marriage as well. What he says about it is, well, 'Well, we're all sinners.' No we're not! Just because somebody ate an apple one time does not make us all sinners. And if it was from the tree of knowledge, I think she should have eaten more than one. (laughter) Possibly even baked a pie. (applause) 'I don't understand the whole same-sex marriage thing,' he was quoted as saying. Well, you you uh, just gotta take the speck out of your own eye before you take the co-- out of your neighbor's. [in Southern accent] (laughter)
"I mean, I'm afraid of terrorists, but I'm more afraid of the Patriot Act." (big applause)
The rapper, Chuck D, of the group Public Enemy, said, according to Drudge, the American government under the Bush administration is the "cancer of civilization."
He continued:
"But truly, seriously, quite frankly, the people are smart enough to realize that the world is important, and we only have one life, that's tired of this bullsh--, or better than that, tired of this Bushsh--." (big applause)
Chuck D also said, according to Drudge, "Americanization is like McDonaldization."
The rapper said: "Son of a Bush and his crew is at it again, because, we do not want eight years run by a Colon, a Bush and a Dick." (big applause)
Actress Julia Stiles said:
"I was worried that some soldiers over in Iraq who are actually younger than I am would see some salacious report on MSNBC and think that I was attacking them and not the government that put them there. And I was afraid that Bill O'Reilly would come and, with a shotgun at my front door, and shoot me for being unpatriotic. But I decided that that's actually, that fear that was silencing me is actually why it's so important that MoveOn exist and do this ad contest ... ."
Comedian Al Franken said: "I'm Al Franken. I'm here to present the funniest ad award. I'm a last-minute substitution. Former Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill was supposed to be the presenter, but unfortunately he was murdered."
"Fat and stupid is no way to go through life, Margaret..."
I agree with her on this point.
In the long run the Patriot Act will harm all of us far more than the Terrorists will ever be able to do.
There are -- or, rather, were -- 3000+ people in New York City who'd disagree with you on that score.
Perhaps but there were also many tens of thousands from all around the country and world who might agree... from the soldiers of the Continental Army, veterans of the Civil War, The Great War, World War II, perhaps Korea and Vietnam and all the other conflicts where sacrifices of life were made to prevent sacrifices of freedom.
Yes, that's true and it's a tragedy but because of that tragedy we have allowed the government to trash the rights of almost 300 million people.
Supposedly the Patriot Act is "only for the duration" of the War on Terrorism. The government has stated that the war may well go on for the next thirty years. Do you really think the government will give us our rights back in thirty years? During that thirty years how many people are going to have their lives ruined by some "civil servant" for fun or profit. It will certainly be more than 3000.
If we don't do something to get our Rights back soon we never will. We are allowing "Big Brother" posing as a civil servant to harm us far more than all of the world's terrorists ever will.
We have the " Bill of Rights" for a reason and it isn't so that we can surrender them as soon as we are attacked.
Whether or not "thousands from all around the world" "agree" that Bush is evil or not is a matter of supreme indifference to me. We neither elect politicians nor enact laws within our borders based upon what some muttonhead in France might snivel, in response.
from the soldiers of the Continental Army, veterans of the Civil War, The Great War, World War II, perhaps Korea and Vietnam and all the other conflicts where sacrifices of life were made to prevent sacrifices of freedom
How arrogant to advance the claim, disingenuously, that soldiers en masse, past and present, would support the views of blame-America-firsters and Dubya-demonizers, with nary a shred of evidence offered in support.
Mine is a military family, as it so happens. My younger brother, Lt. Col. Kim S. Orlando, died in Iraq late last year, and he was as staunch a supporter of Dubya and his foreign policy as ever you could hope to find. Both my sister and my sister-in-law are in the armed forces now; ditto, on both.
Astounding.
I will now ask the very same question I've asked of every other Patriot Act hysteric prior to this, knowing that what I receive in response will be no more verifiable or concrete than any I've yet encountered. Which explicit rights have we inarguably "lost" due to the Patriot Act, please? Specifics, not generalities.
"300 million people," trampled 'neath jackbooted foot? My, my; should be fairly simple to start naming a specific few by name, then... yes?
During that thirty years how many people are going to have their lives ruined by some "civil servant" for fun or profit. It will certainly be more than 3000.
I gave up believing in psychic abilities about the time I first realized that Nostradamus was so full of it, he squeaked whenever he walked. I'm perfectly willing to be impressed, however. Quick, now: what are the winning Lotto numbers for this weekend...?
Nice attempt at personally insulting the poster, rather than (attempting to) deal with the content of the posting. If you haven't anything even remotely resembling a coherent counter-argument, simply say so. As mentioned, previously: I haven't seen one yet contained in the bleatings of the Dubya-Is-the-Devil sheeple, and it certainly isn't as if I was expecting one now.
You state, yourself, that "The flip side is that the Fourth Amendment does permit searches and seizures that are considered reasonable," without offering anything whatsoever to substantiate your apparent contention -- an assumption on my part, I'll grant you; you really aren't making yourself terribly coherent, in this regard -- that the Patriot Act is in substantial contradiction with that all-important codicil.
I asked for specific names, and examples. Your unwillingness and/or inability to provide either says all there is to say about your "argument," really. Such as it is.
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