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A FReeper's Guide To Immigration Reform

Posted on 01/12/2004 9:37:51 AM PST by Happy2BMe

The President's Speech on Immigration Reform given on January 7th, 2004 has many far reaching proposals which if enacted into law, will shape the future of America for generations to come.

It is the first such immigration reform initiative by any president since Ronald Reagan granted amnesty to illegal immigrants living in the United States in 1986.

President Bush's immigration reform initiative would provide immediate and significant legal protections and rights for any illegal immigrants now living in the United States providing they inform the government of their presence here by legally registering it with the .

Significant benefits and privileges, including an opportunity for U.S. citizenship, would be granted to these immigrants as a result of their cooperation.

Since at least ten million illegal immigrants already living in the United States are eligible for the president's proposal, and since deporting that large of a population back to their home countries is largely considered physically impractical, this solution is seen as the "best-case" solution to the immigration problem by many Americans.

Also embedded into the president's proposal are far reaching changes that are considered by many Americans to be "giving away the farm." The cost of absorbing millions of illegal immigrants all at once and the impact and precedent it could create for future illegal immigrations are believed by many other Americans to far outweigh the benefits of legitimizing these millions of immigrants.

The political, economic, and social impact of President Bush's initiatives will affect the United States for at least the remainder of the 21st Century.

The crisis of illegal immigration affects each and every American, and the longer the crisis goes unanswered, the worse it will become.

It is for this reason that the nation must now put their differences aside and work together for the combined good of all Americans, from all walks of life, and from all political and economic persuasions.

Current FR link reference on President Bush's Immigration Reform Initiative will be update on a regular basis.

President George W. Bush's speech on immigration delivered on Jan. 7, 2004 follows:


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La Raza -Chicano Activism in California

61 posted on 01/12/2004 11:30:00 PM PST by Happy2BMe (Liberty does not tolerate lawlessness and a borderless nation will not prevail.)
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To: Happy2BMe
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62 posted on 01/12/2004 11:42:45 PM PST by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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To: ravingnutter
We DO get it. Your concept that Rove is up to something far craftier here is bogus. And EVEN if it were true, that would disgust me just as much.
63 posted on 01/13/2004 2:20:08 AM PST by MissouriForBush
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To: PRND21
How old are you?

That could at least partially explain your naive perspective.

I sure wouldn't want to live in your house, because you obviously would not control who enters it.
64 posted on 01/13/2004 2:26:13 AM PST by MissouriForBush
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To: Happy2BMe
Marker to read later.
65 posted on 01/13/2004 2:44:58 AM PST by Just another Joe (FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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Alien Nation - Mexican Hypocrisy, Corruption, and Welfare Fraud

66 posted on 01/13/2004 7:50:58 AM PST by Happy2BMe (Liberty does not tolerate lawlessness and a borderless nation will not prevail.)
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Savage: Impeach Bush over immigration plan

67 posted on 01/13/2004 8:05:19 AM PST by Happy2BMe (Liberty does not tolerate lawlessness and a borderless nation will not prevail.)
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No easy answers on immigration dilemma

68 posted on 01/13/2004 8:29:41 AM PST by Happy2BMe (Liberty does not tolerate lawlessness and a borderless nation will not prevail.)
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Poll Hints Bush Immigrant Plans Unpopular

69 posted on 01/13/2004 8:57:16 AM PST by Happy2BMe (Liberty does not tolerate lawlessness and a borderless nation will not prevail.)
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Amnesty and Culture

70 posted on 01/13/2004 9:06:57 AM PST by Happy2BMe (Liberty does not tolerate lawlessness and a borderless nation will not prevail.)
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To: Happy2BMe
"According to a RoperASW poll from last year, 83 percent of Americans support mandatory detention and forfeiture of property for illegal immigrants, followed by deportation."

I'm one of the 83%.

If the President Bush or Tom Ridge would announce that in six months they will be paying a $50 per head bounty for each illegal alien on American soil there would be a mad rush for the borders.

A policeman in a car costs the average city about $200 an hour. Helicopters cost at least $2000 an hour with the ground crews. What is the full cost of a teacher per hour? $140.00 or there about.

If we could get illegal aliens to turn each other in, just the ones trying to slip through the net, (I know thousands would attempt it) we would save billions in law enforcement, welfare programs, unemployment, medical care, job training and schools the first year.

Do all this under Executive Order and tell the Courts to back off. This is national security!

Any employer who has employed an illegal alien more than five months from the announcement date will be fined $5000 per employee. One month later enforcement begins. This will give employers 5 months to shed the illegals and hire legally papered actual American citizens.

Then on the announced date, start in a state such as Oklahoma. Well centered, not overly populated and clean the state out. This would give Homeland, INS and Border Patrol time to install their co-agents in various court houses around the country to verify a persons paperwork, i.e.. birth certificates, hospital records, etc.

Go state to state from the epicenter sweeping out the criminals who have successfully avoided suspicion. They already had 5 months to get out, hanging around to test the system carries a SEVERE penalty. They won't be able to say they weren't warned.

Divide a state into quadrants depending on population per square mile., First arrest those whose names were turn in for the bounty. Then others suspected by local law agencies. When arrests slow down, open an adjoining quadrant.

Get caught after the selected dated and the result would be every foreign national who is not in America legally would forfeit all their belongings (houses, cars, bank accounts, etc.) and be deported within 24 hours. These forfeited belongings would then be given to local churches for distribution to the needy in that community. Another cost saver!

This enforcement would apply to illegals from every country in the world, not just Mexico.

Imagine the number of Chinese who would be taking the ship home with everything in the house, new cars, you name it would be on those ships. The thousands of Canadians who decided the USA was better than Canada would be again headed North.

How many schools could be closed? How many hospitals and state paid housing tracts? How many welfare offices? How many planned jail enlargements could be stopped for lack of need?

How many state and federal employees would find out that they have the time to actually give good service to their American customers?

Oh yes, it would be an economic shocker in the amount of taxes that could be reduced or used to actually improve something needed for American citizens, instead of illegal foreigners.

Want an approximate number of the population drop? Try 50 million+ with the majority over 30 years of age, having been illegal residents of America for over ten years.

Just imagine the frantic squealing from our politicians thinking of the lost votes and contributions. That would be a sideshow worth watching!

Scan the whole page for good reading!
Conservative Debate Handbook

71 posted on 01/13/2004 9:18:13 AM PST by B4Ranch (Wave your flag, don't waive your rights!)
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To: MissouriForBush
I sure wouldn't want to live in your house, because you obviously would not control who enters it.

Poor logic.

72 posted on 01/13/2004 9:24:58 AM PST by PRND21
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Bush Struggles for Support at Latin America Summit

73 posted on 01/13/2004 11:19:56 AM PST by Happy2BMe (Liberty does not tolerate lawlessness and a borderless nation will not prevail.)
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Bush Struggles for Support at Latin America Summit

74 posted on 01/13/2004 11:20:02 AM PST by Happy2BMe (Liberty does not tolerate lawlessness and a borderless nation will not prevail.)
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Bush Struggles for Support at Latin America Summit

75 posted on 01/13/2004 11:20:07 AM PST by Happy2BMe (Liberty does not tolerate lawlessness and a borderless nation will not prevail.)
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Bush Struggles for Support at Latin America Summit

76 posted on 01/13/2004 11:20:13 AM PST by Happy2BMe (Liberty does not tolerate lawlessness and a borderless nation will not prevail.)
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To: Happy2BMe
Server burped - sorry 'bout that folks.
77 posted on 01/13/2004 11:21:00 AM PST by Happy2BMe (Liberty does not tolerate lawlessness and a borderless nation will not prevail.)
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Tom Tancredo's version of Immigration Reform - H.R. 3534 (introduced by Rep. Tom Tancredo)


78 posted on 01/13/2004 2:05:25 PM PST by Happy2BMe (Liberty does not tolerate lawlessness and a borderless nation will not prevail.)
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Illegals Are Destroying America - A Letter To Rep Tom Tancredo

Tancredo Blasts Immigration Plan

Mexican ambassador criticizes Tancredo over ID card debate

Tom Tancredo's version of Immigration Reform - H.R. 3534 (introduced by Rep. Tom Tancredo)



79 posted on 01/13/2004 3:52:45 PM PST by Happy2BMe (Liberty does not tolerate lawlessness and a borderless nation will not prevail.)
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