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A FReeper's Guide To Immigration Reform
Posted on 01/12/2004 9:37:51 AM PST by Happy2BMe
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To: swampfox98
" horrible education bill, the horrible campaign finance law and the horrible prescription law."
This is different....both sides of the house are in sufficient numbers to kill this. No guarantees, just my opinion.
To: international american
I hope so, too. But will it be dead permanently? I doubt it, because as we speak more and more illegals are coming into our country, and one day their political clout will blow America out of the water.
President Fox won't rest until Canada, US, Central and South America are one nation.
To: swampfox98
What is sickening about the President's remarks, quoted above, is that like his immediate predecessor, he is using slick emotionally tinged Madison Avenue type arguments--much as one might market a new TV series, or any of the Leftwing programs that the Left has marketed over the past half-century--and has completely avoided the real questions involved in the present immigration debate. It is impossible to believe that he both understands and cares about the long-term implications and effects of what he proposes.
I have tried to address this whole problem with balance (yet with a firm determination to discuss frankly the ethnic questions which the Left in Academia has been trying since the 1920s to suppress), in order to put the essential factors before the student debater, in Chapter 15 of the Debate Handbook: Immigration & The American Future. It is packed full of points that the President refuses to acknowledge even need be considered at all. While mankind has throughout history often followed leaders that ignored reality; reality always emerges in the end with terrible consequences. Frankly, I do not believe that we dare continue to support this type of "leadership."
William Flax
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posted on
01/12/2004 1:26:27 PM PST
by
Ohioan
To: PRND21
your fear and anger Fear?
1) The loss of American jobs to illegal aliens who will work for less, bringing down wages in most industries.
2) American workers in the construction jobs and other similarly paid industries will have to compete with illegals who will work for minimum wage, so they won't be hired.
3) Bush's proposal will encourage millions more to come.
Anger?
1) American taxpayers have to pay for medical care, welfare, schooling, etc. etc. for illegal aliens. The employers won't help with medical coverage when they know the state will pay it.
2) More American cities will resemble Mexican colonias, with all the mess they bring with them. This has already happened in many California communities.
3) Loss of sovereignty of the U.S. - We have a President who doesn't respect U.S. laws and refuses to enforce existing immigration laws. Americans have to obey the laws, but illegal aliens don't.
4) Any kind of amnesty, no matter what they call it, is an insult to those immigrants who cared enough about our country to apply legally and waited their turn.
I find it strange that you don't have any of the same concerns about America.
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posted on
01/12/2004 1:32:21 PM PST
by
janetgreen
(TANCREDO FOR PRESIDENT)
To: janetgreen
I find it strange that you don't have any of the same concerns about America. Pat did, too.
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posted on
01/12/2004 1:43:34 PM PST
by
PRND21
To: swampfox98
"more and more illegals are coming into our country, and one day their political clout will blow America out of the water."
If I could afford it, I would bring every naysaying freeper to California, and give them a grand tour. But I can't. So many freepers are backing Bush on this, and if Gore had done it, they would be screaming bloody murder.
To: PRND21
Pat did, too. And of course Pat was right. He got crucified for being right. No one is supposed to speak the truth anymore, it's not politically correct.
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posted on
01/12/2004 1:57:48 PM PST
by
janetgreen
(TANCREDO FOR PRESIDENT)
To: janetgreen
Pat = Jesus?
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posted on
01/12/2004 2:09:08 PM PST
by
PRND21
To: swampfox98
Therefore, I believe this Amnesty proposal will pass hands down. Umm, Bush tried to ram 245(i) amnesty through Congress and it was defeated in committee after a firestorm of public opposition. That btw was modest compared to what's being proposed here.
Not saying nothing will pass eventually, but it won't be anything near this monstrosity.
To: Reaganwuzthebest
Correct!
To: All
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posted on
01/12/2004 2:27:33 PM PST
by
Happy2BMe
(Liberty does not tolerate lawlessness and a borderless nation will not prevail.)
To: Happy2BMe
BUMP!!
To: international american; keri
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posted on
01/12/2004 3:23:36 PM PST
by
Happy2BMe
(Liberty does not tolerate lawlessness and a borderless nation will not prevail.)
To: Ohioan
Bill, I don't know what I will do on election day. As one Freeper told me yesterday, nobody cares about my one vote and I'm not very important in the scheme of things.
I believe the horror of this illegal problem transcends politics, and I agree with you we can't support a President who refuses to see the danger to the American way of life if open borders continues, and amnesty is given out like Popsicles.
However, I will not vote for a Democrat.
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posted on
01/12/2004 3:37:27 PM PST
by
swampfox98
(Guess I'll stay home.)
To: Happy2BMe; AbsoluteJustice
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posted on
01/12/2004 3:42:23 PM PST
by
The_Eaglet
(Conservative chat on IRC: http://searchirc.com/search.php?F=exact&T=chan&N=33&I=conservative)
To: All; keri
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posted on
01/12/2004 6:02:23 PM PST
by
Happy2BMe
(Liberty does not tolerate lawlessness and a borderless nation will not prevail.)
To: Happy2BMe; keri; Sabertooth
57
posted on
01/12/2004 6:50:11 PM PST
by
Happy2BMe
(Liberty does not tolerate lawlessness and a borderless nation will not prevail.)
To: Happy2BMe
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posted on
01/12/2004 7:36:32 PM PST
by
Happy2BMe
(Liberty does not tolerate lawlessness and a borderless nation will not prevail.)
To: PRND21
you silly boy.
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posted on
01/12/2004 7:46:26 PM PST
by
janetgreen
(TANCREDO FOR PRESIDENT)
To: janetgreen
;)
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posted on
01/12/2004 10:32:37 PM PST
by
PRND21
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