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No easy answers on immigration dilemma
Oak Lawn (IL) Reporter ^ | 1/15/04 | Michael M. Bates

Posted on 01/13/2004 8:28:16 AM PST by mikeb704

Last week President Bush proposed a new guest worker program. It wasn’t surprising that the Left quickly declared the Bush plan a disaster. The president of National Council of La Raza (The Race, for you gringos) declared that Hispanic Americans were "extremely disappointed." I thought that Senate Democrat leader Tom Daschle had copyrighted the extremely disappointed expression by now, but apparently he hasn’t.

The White House may not have expected the widely negative reaction of some of those on the Right. It should have.

Rewarding those who are here illegally goes against the grain. People who announce their intention to come to America these days are, necessarily, greeted with considerable scrutiny including fingerprinting and photographs. Those who’ve snuck in, the President suggests, should be given what amounts to amnesty.

I tire of the terms undocumented workers and undocumented immigrants. These folks are illegal aliens and should be described as such. Giving them a pass will only encourage more illegal aliens to break the law.

We’re often reminded that this is a nation of immigrants. That we’re become a great country because of the contributions made by individuals who’ve come here from foreign shores.

That’s true in many respects. What’s different now, however, is assimilation appears to have broken down. Foreigners coming here in earlier times adapted to American ways. They accepted our language and customs. They embraced our culture and values. It’s not like that any more.

Go to a bank’s ATM and the first question on the screen is whether you want to conduct your transaction in English or Spanish. Call your cable company, or just about any other business that answers with a recorded message, and the voice will tell you to press one to continue in English or dos if you prefer Spanish.

What we’re witnessing is the Balkanization of the United States. We see enclaves of foreigners, particularly in larger cities. These closed societies keep the people in a cultural isolation that impedes their integration into America.

There are an estimated 8 to 10 million illegals, most of them from Mexico, in this country. In general, business is happy to have them here. They will work for low wages in disagreeable jobs that, it is claimed, Americans, even ones on welfare, refuse to do.

These illegal immigrants pay taxes, the story goes, and contribute to the country’s overall economic vitality. If it weren’t for them, salaries for many menial jobs would skyrocket and the additional costs passed on to consumers.

On the other side, there’s a question if the illegal immigrants’ tax contributions, if they’re not part of the underground economy, cover the cost of their being here. A few years ago, the National Research Council calculated that the average immigrant with less than a high school education (two-thirds of Mexican immigrants fall into this category) creates a lifetime taxpayer burden of $89,000. It’s been estimated that, just in Los Angeles County, health care for illegal aliens costs taxpayers $340 million a year.

I wonder about the assertion that no Americans, even those on welfare, will undertake those tedious, unskilled jobs. If that’s actually true, it must be because welfare is a better alternative. Yet we don’t hear any politicians clamoring that welfare benefits are too high.

A major consideration must be what to do with the millions of illegal aliens already here. Even if the government really wanted to expel all of them, it’s an unrealistic task. More aggressively identifying illegal aliens, and quickly deporting them, would help. So would tightening up our porous borders.

One thing that could be done is to hold employers who hire illegal aliens accountable for breaking the law. Fine them, heavily. If they keep breaking the law, send them to prison.

Something needs to be done about immigration, especially illegal immigration. There clearly are no easy answers. But Mr. Bush’s proposals are a disappointment.

Their timing makes it look as though he’s pandering to Hispanic voters for this year’s election. In politics, it’s the appearance rather than the reality that more often than not matters.

This age of terrorism is a time we should be making it tougher to enter and stay in our country. And there’s no time that it’s appropriate to give special treatment to people who are here illegally.

A new guest worker program isn’t what’s needed. Enforcing the laws already on the books is. And even then, it’s only part of the answer.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: aliens; bush; illegalaliens; immigration; mexico
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1 posted on 01/13/2004 8:28:16 AM PST by mikeb704
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To: mikeb704
Pull my finger

2 posted on 01/13/2004 8:29:22 AM PST by evets (We have assumed control.)
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To: mikeb704

No Blood for Lettuce!

Click here and here for lists of crimes committed by illegal aliens.


3 posted on 01/13/2004 8:30:21 AM PST by putupon (No Blood for Lettuce)
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To: mikeb704
Simple enough - all ya gotta do - is that which is most politically expedient....unfortunately
4 posted on 01/13/2004 8:30:30 AM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: evets; mikeb704
A FReeper's Guide To Immigration Reform

"What remains to be seen is if this country has the capacity to accommodate, and assimilate, an unending wave of mass immigration ¯ because failure to do so will result in a balkanized, fragmented, strife-torn and dysfunctional America."

~ Take the FReeper Immigration Reform Poll ~

5 posted on 01/13/2004 8:30:39 AM PST by Happy2BMe (Liberty does not tolerate lawlessness and a borderless nation will not prevail.)
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To: putupon
"No Blood For Lettuce"

Your handle speaks volumes. Are you a patriot by chance?

6 posted on 01/13/2004 8:33:44 AM PST by Happy2BMe (Liberty does not tolerate lawlessness and a borderless nation will not prevail.)
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To: Happy2BMe
I try
7 posted on 01/13/2004 8:34:43 AM PST by putupon (No Blood for Lettuce)
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To: putupon
I think the proposal by Sabertooth is the best.
8 posted on 01/13/2004 8:42:58 AM PST by international american (support our troops.........revoke Hillary's visa!!)
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To: international american
I haven't seen any realistic set of solutions yet that are any more applicable than S.T.'s
9 posted on 01/13/2004 8:47:47 AM PST by Happy2BMe (Liberty does not tolerate lawlessness and a borderless nation will not prevail.)
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To: mikeb704
I wonder about the assertion that no Americans, even those on welfare, will undertake those tedious, unskilled jobs. If that’s actually true, it must be because welfare is a better alternative. Yet we don’t hear any politicians clamoring that welfare benefits are too high.>>>>>>>


Sounds good to me. Trim some off the welfare checks, & put some of these Americans back to work, & into the SS Fund.
10 posted on 01/13/2004 8:51:12 AM PST by txdoda ("Navy-brat")
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To: international american; putupon
Poll Hints Bush Immigrant Plans Unpopular
11 posted on 01/13/2004 8:59:05 AM PST by Happy2BMe (Liberty does not tolerate lawlessness and a borderless nation will not prevail.)
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To: mikeb704
These illegal immigrants pay taxes, the story goes, and contribute to the country’s overall economic vitality. If it weren’t for them, salaries for many menial jobs would skyrocket and the additional costs passed on to consumers.

What's not included in these arguments are self-employed illegals, who operate all sorts of cash service businesses, do not pay taxes of any kind, and are seldom caught or fined in spite of the labyrinth of state and local licensing regulations that legal businesses or self-employed must contend with.

It's not surprising that the administration rushes to include the unreported job creation of small business in their employment calculations, but there is little speculation about the impact of self-employed illegals who undercut American workers. Ah well, as the new mantra goes, these are now jobs that "Americans don't want."

12 posted on 01/13/2004 9:15:30 AM PST by browardchad
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Your post speaks volumes. Two of my brothers own a small curb and gutter concrete business in Oklahoma. They've been virtually put out of business by illegals. This is definitely work they'd love to do and contracts they'd love to get, but being honest is a penalty when the illegals are flouting the law with impunity.
13 posted on 01/13/2004 9:57:55 AM PST by EagleMamaMT
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To: txdoda
Trim some off the welfare checks, & put some of these Americans back to work...

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I thought that was what "Welfare Reform" was all about. It just didn't go far enough. I have long since advocated the total elimination of welfare, including what is called "corporate welfare".

My retorical question for the imigration problem is:
Do you think any musquitos would go where there is no blood to suck?
14 posted on 01/13/2004 10:05:54 AM PST by gooleyman
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To: txdoda
Trim some off the welfare checks. . .

Few politicians have the guts to even come close to espousing that idea. Supposedly, welfare reform knocked all the deadbeats off the rolls.

15 posted on 01/13/2004 10:35:24 AM PST by mikeb704
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To: evets
I think Fox is pulling Bush's leg.
16 posted on 01/13/2004 10:39:04 AM PST by mikeb704
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To: evets
I think Fox is pulling Bush's leg.
17 posted on 01/13/2004 10:39:11 AM PST by mikeb704
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To: mikeb704
That double post was the result of an internal system error. Not my fault. That's my story and I'm sticking with it.
18 posted on 01/13/2004 10:40:46 AM PST by mikeb704
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To: gooleyman
Do you think any musquitos would go where there is no blood to suck? >>>>>>

Well, *before* all our gov't freebies, didn't most of the migrants just come for the season & then return home.

Nowdays, one holds min. wage job, the other works for cash (several kids), & gov't 'freebies' are given for ALL.
19 posted on 01/13/2004 1:09:13 PM PST by txdoda ("Navy-brat")
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Supposedly, welfare reform knocked all the deadbeats off the rolls.>>>>

LOL.......think of the outcome of any immigration 'reform'.



20 posted on 01/13/2004 1:15:58 PM PST by txdoda ("Navy-brat")
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