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Milosevic was right: JIHADIST HOTBED IN THE BALKANS: THE TRUTH IS OUT
Chronicles ^ | January 10, 2004 | Srdja Trifkovic

Posted on 01/12/2004 9:07:00 AM PST by Dan2001

For years we have been warning that flawed pro-Muslim Western policies would turn the Balkans from a “protectorate of the New World Order into an Islamic threat to Western interests” (Chronicles, December 2001). This has already happened, according to a spate of media reports and statements by Western governments and top diplomats over the past few weeks.

“US to build Balkan anti-terrorism center in Bulgaria,” news agencies reported on January 6, to monitor and detect terrorist threats to the United States and Balkan countries. In addition to the CIA-staffed center, Bulgarian media reported that the FBI also plans to set up an office in Sofia working with the center. US intelligence experts are quoted as saying that al-Qaida has a training base in the Balkans and uses the region as a terror route to West

Two days earlier, on January 4, Associated Press warned that efforts to tighten security for seaborne containers won’t lessen the risk that terrorists could sneak a nuclear weapon into Europe by land through the Balkans. Tom Sanderson of the Center for Strategic and International Studies and Chris Wright of the Royal Institute of International Affairs in London were quoted as saying that smuggling routes through southeastern Europe were well established and said there was “a lot of scope” for collusion between terrorist groups and criminal gangs.

Germany’s news magazine Der Spiegel reported a month earlier (December 8, 2003) that the “monstrous” King Fahd mosque in Sarajevo—the largest in Europe, on which the desert kingdom spent a total of $20 million—is a terrorist threat. “Western security experts” are quoted as saying that Bosnia could become “a hotbed of extremists ready to use force—and would thus carry the fight of the Islamic terror syndicates against the ‘godless West’ to the southeast of Europe.” This creeping infiltration is increasingly suspect to Western observers, the magazine says: “We are extremely concerned,” it quotes a German intelligence chief, August Hanning, as saying; in some mosques preachers are already openly inciting against the West, against Israel and the godless United States. During the war Bosnia become a training camp for Islamist activists from all over the world, the magazine quotes a French expert as saying, with up to 5,000 foreign volunteers fighting with Izetbegovic’s troops. Many remained behind, “too many to be safe,” according to George Friedman, director of Stratfor. The Balkans are “of strategic importance” to Al-Qa’ida, he says; the organization can use the region for its objectives at any time.

Such concerns are now reflected in statements by some U.S. diplomats and Western governments. A remarkable example was provided by the U.S. Ambassador in Sarajevo, Clifford Bond, who declared on December 17 that there is a terrorist threat in Bosnia because of foreigners who arrived there during the war and stayed on. In the same week Greece announced that its national security interests were threatened by Al Qaida-aligned agents in Bosnia. The Cabinet of Prime Minister Costas Simitis is concerned by the threat from Bosnia to the Olympic Games in August 2004.

"UN Adds Bosnian Charity Director to Al Qaeda List,” Reuters reported ten days later (December 29). The name of Safet Durguti, an Albanian born in Kosovo, was added to the list of 300 individuals whose assets should be frozen due to suspected ties to Osama bin Laden or his al Qaeda network. Durguti—apparently the key link between Islamic fundamentalists in Kosovo and Bosnia—is the director of a charity called Vazir, based in the Bosnian city of Travnik. According to the U.S. Treasury Department Vazir was simply another name for the Al-Haramain Islamic Foundation, a Saudi charity that was placed on the U.N. list in March 2002. It was formed in May 2003 as an association for sports, culture and education but was based in the same premises as Al-Haramain.

Dozens of similar statements and articles can be quoted from different Western sources over the past month alone. In short, the problem exists, it is freely admitted that it exists by policy analysts and government officials alike, it has acquired massive proportions, and may not be easily resolved any longer. As far back as 2000 a highly classified State Department report—released in the aftermath of 9-11—warned that the Muslim-controlled portions of Bosnia had become a safe haven for Islamic terrorists who present a major threat to Europe and the United States, and who were protected by the Muslim government in Sarajevo. The findings were summarized in the words of a former State Department official: Bosnia-Herzegovina is “a staging area” for Islamic terrorists.

The threat is not limited to a few elusive extremists: the ruling establishment in Sarajevo has had a symbiotic relationship with the sources of Islamic radicalism for over a decade. “Iran, Bosnia to Exapnd Ties,” reported IRIB (Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting) on December 21 on a meeting of the Bosnian ambassador to Tehran Ibrahim Efendic and Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani. The latter said that “the Jihad (holy war) of the the Bosnian and Palestinian nations is praiseworthy and a source of honor for Muslims”:

The resistance and faith of these nations will be registered in the history of Islam, he added… Highlighting the geographical status of the Balkans, Rafsanjani said Iran attaches great importance to Bosnia and Herzegovina and expressed the hope to witness further expansion of bilateral ties between the two countries. The outgoing Bosnian ambassador lauded the humanitarian aid rendered by the Islamic Republic of Iran.

The meaning of this unjustly overlooked news item is (1) that the “Bosnian nation” is equated with its Muslim component only, all others being by implication enemy aliens; (2) that Bosnian Muslim government officials are received and treated in Teheran as allies in a jihad; (3) that Islamists see Bosnia as no less important than Palestine to their strategic design (“geographic status”); and (4) that Iran’s “humanitarian aid”—the label used during the war as a cover for illegal arms shipments is still appreciated in Sarajevo. Iran had already obtained a foothold in Bosnia, when the Clinton Administration asked for—and obtained—Teheran’s help in supplying the Muslim army with weapons (“Clinton-Approved Iranian Arms Transfers Help Turn Bosnia into Militant Islamic Base,” U.S. Senate Republican Policy Committee, January 16, 1997. This was done in violation of the arms embargo initially demanded by the U.S. and behind the back of its European allies (See “Fingerprints: Arms to Bosnia, the real story,” The New Republic, October 28, 1996). The CIA and the Departments of State and Defense were kept in the dark until after the decision was made (“U.S. Had Options to Let Bosnia Get Arms, Avoid Iran,” The Los Angeles Times, July 1, 1996). Along with the weapons, Iranian Revolutionary Guards and VEVAK intelligence agents entered Bosnia in large numbers.

The problem of collusion between American governments and Islamic radicals antedates the wars of Yugoslav succession. Its roots hark back to the support Bin Laden and other fundamentalist Muslims received from the United States following the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in December 1979. According to former CIA director Robert Gates, the U.S. intelligence services began to arm the mujahideen even before the Soviet intervention. Mistaken and shortsighted as this strategy turned out to be, it was conceivably justified by the dictates of the Cold War: one’s enemy’s enemy is one’s de facto ally, if not a trusted friend. Blowback was a risk, but one at least arguably worth taking. A quarter of a century later, it is necessary to rectify more recent mistakes of a similar nature. If the War Against Terror is to be meaningful, the Bush administration should investigate the biggest unknown scandal of the Clinton years: that throughout the 1990's, the U.S. government aided and abetted al-Qa’eda operations in the Balkans, long after he was recognized as a major security threat to the United States.

There are foreign policy strategists in Washington who have sought for decades to turn militant Islam into a tool of policy. This is not a flight of critical fancy: it is a well documented fact; it is not challenged as an accusation, but it is not unduly admitted either. In the beginning those strategists, or their predecessors, may have underestimated the danger of “blowback,” but over the years they have bound good men to bad policy, and they have reinforced failure with gold. “Blowback” is the apt metaphor: poison gas blowing back from its intended victims to choke one’s own soldiers in their trenches. The strategy of effective support for Islamic ambitions in pursuit of short-term political or military objectives has helped turn Islamic radicalism into a truly global phenomenon.

The underlying assumption was that militant Muslims could be used and eventually discarded—like Diem, Noriega, the Shah, and the Contras: CIA’s “Operation Cyclone” poured over $4 billion into setting up training centers where young fanatics were sent to learn terrorist skills. The assumption all along has been that the Islamic genie could be controlled. For the ensuing two decades, in the conflicts that inevitably define the line between Islam and its neighbors, Washington almost invariably supported the Muslims—most notably in Bosnia and Kosovo. By January 1996, Jacob Heilbrunn and Michael Lind of The New Republic approvingly wrote of the U.S. role as the leader of Muslim nations from the Persian Gulf to the Balkans, with the Ottoman lands becoming “the heart of a third American empire” (Jacob Heilbrunn and Michael Lind, “The Third American Empire,” The New York Times, January 2, 1996).

The Bosnian crisis started when Alija Izetbegovic, the Muslim leader, reneged on an agreement brokered by the European Union that provided for continued power-sharing in Sarajevo. He opted for an unilateral declaration of independence; in making this decision, he was supported by the U.S. Ambassador in Belgrade, Warren Zimmerman. He was acting in line with the Acting Secretary of State Lawrence Eagleburger, who made it clear that a goal was to mollify the Muslim world and to counter any perception of an anti-Muslim bias regarding American policies in Iraq (Eagleburger’s MacNeil/Lehrer PBS NewsHour interview on October 6, 1992). The subsequent portrayal in the media of the Muslims as innocent martyrs in the cause of multicultural tolerance concealed the fact that the war was primarily religious in nature. Before the first shots were fired, Alija Izetbegovic, proudly proclaimed in his “Islamic Declaration” (1974; republished 1990) that “there can be no peace or coexistence between the Islamic faith and non-Islamic societies and political institutions”: “The Islamic movement should and must start taking power as soon as it is morally and numerically strong enough not only to overthrow the existing non-Islamic power structure, but also to build a great Islamic federation spreading from Morocco to Indonesia, from tropical Africa to Central Asia.”

This is hardly an unusual viewpoint for a sincere and dedicated Islamist, and Izetbegovic should have been commended for his frankness. Nevertheless, it should have been obvious in the West that the Bosnian-Muslims did not want to establish a multiethnic liberal democratic society. The U.S. Army Foreign Military Studies Office saw the situation more clearly than the politicians: “President Izethbegovic and his cabal appear to harbor much different private intentions and goals” (“Selling the Bosnia Myth to America: Buyer Beware,” Lieutenant Colonel John E. Sray, USA, U.S. Army Foreign Military Studies Office, Fort Leavenworth, KS, October 1995). Now that Bosnia is a terrorist hotbed we know that this assessment was entirely correct.

The core of Bin Laden’s Balkan network are the veterans of El Moujahed brigade of the Bosnian-Muslim army. It was established in 1992 and included volunteers from all over the Islamic world whose passage to Bosnia was facilitated by Al-Qaeda. The unit was distinguished by its spectacular cruelty to Christians, including decapitation of prisoners to the chants of Allahu-akbar. El Moujahed was the nursery from which an international terrorist network spread to Europe and North America. After the end of the Bosnian war, many Muslim volunteers remained (“Foreign Muslims Fighting in Bosnia Considered ‘Threat’ to U.S. Troops,” The Washington Post, November 30, 1995).

The potential threat persuaded the U.S. and other Western nations to oppose the presence of foreign mujahedeen in Bosnia as part of the November 1995 Dayton peace agreements, which specifically called for the expulsion of all foreign fighters. But the Muslim-controlled Bosnian government circumvented the rule by granting Bosnian citizenship to several hundred Arab and other Islamist volunteers—eliminating their “foreign” status before the accord took effect. Many of them had taken over the former Serbian village of Bocinja Donja, near the city of Zenica in central Bosnia; elsewhere they took over properties and married local women, sometimes by force ( “Mujaheddin Remaining in Bosnia: Islamic Militants Strongarm Civilians, Defy Dayton Plan,” The Washington Post, July 8, 1996). The results followed swiftly, in the form of a dozen executed or planned attacks—from a shootout Lille in France to a terrorist cell Montreal, from the Y2K LAX conspiracy to a wave of recent bombings in Istanbul—that can be traced to the Bosnian Connection.

While an intricate Islamic terror network was maturing in Bosnia, Osama bin Laden was busy looking for fresh opportunities in the Balkans. He found it in Kosovo. European and Israeli sources warned that after Bosnia, Kosovo promised to be the second Islamic bastion. The Clinton Administration ignored the warnings (The Jerusalem Post, September 14, 1998). The KLA earned its spurs in the eyes of its Islamist partners by blowing up Christian Orthodox churches. The relationship was cemented by the zeal of some KLA veterans who joined Bin Laden’s network in Afghanistan:

Perhaps most telling about the minds of those who trained here is a document found at the [Al-Qaeda] camp. “I am interested in suicide operations,”' wrote Damir Bajrami, 24, an ethnic Albanian from Kosovo, on his entry application in April. “'I have Kosovo Liberation Army combat experience against Serb and American forces. I need no further training. I recommend (suicide) operations against (amusement) parks like Disney” (USA Today, November 26, 2001, on documents found at an Al-Qaeda training camp).

Iranian Revolutionary Guards had joined forces with Osama bin Laden to support the Albanian insurgency in Kosovo, hoping “to turn the region into their main base for Islamic armed activity in Europe” (The Sunday Times of London March 22, 1998). By the end of 1998, when Bin Laden’s terrorist network in Albania started sending units to fight the Serbs in Kosovo, the U.S. drug officials complained that the transformation of the KLA from terrorists into freedom fighters hampered their ability to stem the flow of Albanian-peddled heroin into America (The Washington Times, May 4, 1999). By that time the NATO bombing of Serbia was in full swing, however, and the mujaheddin were once again American allies: “Al-Qaeda has both trained and financially supported the KLA. Many border crossings into Kosovo by ‘foreign fighters’ also have been documented and include veterans of the militant group Islamic Jihad from Bosnia, Chechnya, and Afghanistan” (Ibid.).

All along, the Clinton Administration was positively elated about the shift in alliances and attitudes displayed by the Kosovo intervention:

Insofar as Kosovo emerged as a unique case of U.S. support for a Muslim population against an avowed Christian state and led to an alliance with a Muslim guerilla army, it is something of a watershed event. The breakthrough in Kosovo also came about at the tail end of major changes in the international and domestic politics of Muslim societies over the course of the preceding decade. Policymakers are challenged to respond to those changes in order to bring American foreign policy in line with the reality of Islam’s place in domestic, regional, and international politics. Given the importance of Islam to international affairs and the sheer number of Muslims who live in areas that affect Western and U.S. interests, rethinking America’s foreign policy on Islam may be a welcome development (Georgetown Journal of International Affairs).

Where does more than a decade of U.S. involvement leave the Balkans? “The small jihad is now finished and we have—some of us—survived the war. The Bosnian state is intact. But now we have to fight a bigger, second jihad,” says Mustafa Ceric, the Reis-ul-Ulema in Bosnia-Herzegovina—educated, incidentally, at Al-Azhar in Cairo and the University of Chicago. Clinton’s intervention in the Balkans had for its end result the strengthening of an already aggressive Islamic base in the heart of Europe that will not go away. The unspoken assumption of the architects of such policies, that generosity would be rewarded by loyalty, is mistaken: loyalty to unbelievers is not a Muslim trait; pragmatism is—and, as Yohanan Ramati has remarked, “pragmatism prescribes that when dealing with fools, one milks them for all one can get, demoralizes them until they are incapable of protecting their interests, and then deprives them of any influence they have left.”

A generation ago it was understandable, even excusable, for bone-headed CIA bosses to work up a hatred of atheism and enjoy dealing with believers. They used Muslims in just the way they used the Church of Rome in the early 1950s in their fight against the Communists. But appeasement by their feeble successors in our own time only breeds the contempt and arrogance of the radicals and fuels their ambition. Changing the self-defeating trend demands recognition that the West is in a war of religion, whether it wants that or not, and however much it hates the fact.

On the Islamic side this war is being fought with the deep and unshakeable belief that the West is on its last legs. The success of the demographic deluge is reinforced by the evidence from history that a civilization that loses the urge for biological self-perpetuation is indeed finished. Falling birthrates in Europe and the need to support European welfare entitlements with a host of “guest-workers” and immigrants seem to make it inevitable that the colonization of Europe by Islamic peoples will continue. Some leaders such as President Bush may have been hoping to domesticate Islam under the aegis of the nondenominational deism that is professed in their rhetoric. The attempt will continue to fail. So far this failure has not been admitted. Hence the enduring fantasy of an American-Islamic alliance against extremism.

Of course, it would be preferable to have a reformed Islam as our global neighbor, rather than the grim variations on the same theme that currently prevail in Iran, Pakistan, Sudan, Libya, Saudi Arabia, and elsewhere, but Islam’s ability to reform itself is undermined by the appeasement of Islamism that continues in the Balkans. Such appeasement will only enhance a downward spiral of hate and spite, rage and self-pity, poverty and oppression that may culminate sooner or later in yet another bout of alien domination.

Muslims, as Christians once did, tend to sympathize with each other in a familiar and more or less nationalist fashion. If this tendency goes unchecked it produces a lunatic account of world affairs in which Muslim societies are always victims of the West and always innocent. It is not just the extremists who believe that in Palestine, Chechnya, Bosnia, Kosovo, and Kashmir, the Muslims are entirely in the right: at present, almost every Muslim thinks so. The “politically correct” Westerners accept the Muslim judgment. But this is extremely dangerous, as the West cannot afford to concede such a large measure of moral approval to so self-conscious and agitated a force in world affairs.

Western policy in the Balkans should be reappraised because to continue encouraging the Muslim sense of pure victimhood—notably with the myth of the “genocide” in Srebrenica, and the accompanying US-financed Muslim shrine—is to feed the minds of would-be suicide bombers in Sarajevo and Pristina with a political pap that nourishes their hate. The obstacle to doing so is often the apologetics and the tradition of pro-Muslim appeasement of the Clinton decade; but that appeasement must stop. Pandering to Islam’s geopolitical designs—in the Balkans, or anywhere else—and sacrificing smaller Christian nations in the process, is counterproductive: the morsels will only whet the Islamic appetite, paving the way to a major confrontation some time in this century.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; alqaedabalkans; balkans; campaignfinance; jihadineurope; kla; milosevic; serbpropaganda
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To: DTA
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101 posted on 01/13/2004 2:42:43 PM PST by cwb (ç†)
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To: NYC Republican
The Serbs had a right to control the area, but should have granted Kosovo the autonomy they had for several years before Milosevic stripped it away, essentially leaving the Albanians powerless and voiceless, whereas other pre-Yugoslavia breakup allowed nearly every other minority group with far greater human rights

That's about as far from the truth of the matter as you can get.

The genesis of the recent problems in Kosovo was Milosevic's rescinding the autonomy of the province in 89

Basically, he had to; every other ethnic group in the province were being brutalized by the Albanians. Read it:

Typical highlights:

Ethnic Albanians in the Government have manipulated public funds and regulations to take over land belonging to Serbs. And politicians have exchanged vicious insults.

Slavic Orthodox churches have been attacked, and flags have been torn down. Wells have been poisoned and crops burned.

Slavic boys have been knifed, and some young ethnic Albanians have been told by their elders to rape Serbian girls.

I mean, that's from a NY Times article in 1987 before there was any axe to grind over Kosovo, at least in America.

I mean, calling the AKs barbarians is almost an unjustifiable insult to the memory of guys like Attilla the Hun, Genseric the Vandal, Ragnar Lothbrook...

102 posted on 01/13/2004 3:06:28 PM PST by greenwolf
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To: NYC Republican
Here's another reference for the article

The article is listed as a New York Times article, November 1, 1987, Late City Final Edition (p.14).

That isn't difficult to check up on.

104 posted on 01/13/2004 5:20:41 PM PST by greenwolf
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To: greenwolf
I checked out your link. There it is. You are no liar. In fact, thank you for posting it. I had no idea of just how bad it was for the Serbs as far back as 1987.
105 posted on 01/13/2004 6:11:51 PM PST by Lion in Winter
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To: NYC Republican
Is that egg on your face?
106 posted on 01/13/2004 6:12:42 PM PST by Lion in Winter
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To: Lion in Winter
Don't make fun of somebody for giving up on a bad idea; most people aren't bright enough to do that.
107 posted on 01/13/2004 6:27:06 PM PST by greenwolf
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To: NYC Republican
YOUR POST IS DISGRACE

Attacking a Freeper for teling the truth by using a lie is LIBERAL tactics. You are no Republican, Republjican perhaps.

You owe FReepers an apology for your racist outburst.

108 posted on 01/13/2004 6:45:07 PM PST by DTA (you ain't seen nothing yet)
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To: DTA
You owe FReepers an apology for your racist outburst.

My racist outburst? Idiot. You and your fellow Milosevic-apologists are the racists, constantly spewing hate against Bosnians and Albanians. And as for David Binder, if one article written 16 years ago is all you have, you don't have much. The atrocities committed by the Serbs dwarf ALL of that.

109 posted on 01/13/2004 6:59:04 PM PST by NYC Republican
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To: NYC Republican
"You and your fellow Milosevic-apologists are the racists, constantly spewing hate against Bosnians and Albanians."

Oh. You must mean we're spewing hate against the Marxist/Islamic KLA.

So sorry.

110 posted on 01/13/2004 7:02:56 PM PST by Reactionary
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To: NYC Republican
>>>>>My racist outburst? Idiot. You and your fellow Milosevic-apologists are the racists, constantly spewing hate against Bosnians and Albanians. And as for David Binder, if one article written 16 years ago is all you have, you don't have much. The atrocities committed by the Serbs dwarf ALL of that.<<<<

How about 20+ articles from international media from the time Kosovo was not famous.

Your rudeness shows that you are losing nerves. Relax, have a tuljumba, bakljava or some other Albanian- distributed product

111 posted on 01/13/2004 7:10:54 PM PST by DTA (you ain't seen nothing yet)
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To: NYC Republican
The truth of the whole thing about the Balkans is rather shocking and takes a bit of time to get used to for many Americans. Basically, pretty much every one of the stories about "Serb atrocities" which anybody has ever bothered to run totally to ground turns out to be fabricated BS. The worst case of all is probably the story of the Bosnian Serb "death camp" at Trnopolje, which turned out to be a refugee hostel of sorts.

As near as I can tell by doing my own investigations on the net, pretty much everything Americans have been told by our own media about the balkans over the last decade or so is BS.

Basically, the people accusing Milosevic and other Serbs of crimes are the Klintons, Madeline Albright, George Soros, Wesley Clark, and a number of their fellow travellors. I mean, what more should you need to know?

112 posted on 01/13/2004 9:09:01 PM PST by greenwolf
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To: greenwolf
opps, it isn't eggg at all... it is something alot more smelly. Perhaps we should offer this Albanian a rag for his face so he can wipe it off.
113 posted on 01/14/2004 1:01:22 AM PST by Lion in Winter
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To: greenwolf
Basically, the people accusing Milosevic and other Serbs of crimes are the Klintons, Madeline Albright, George Soros, Wesley Clark

Some of the most despicable people in our society, to be sure, but, to think that everything was made up (200,000 graves of all ethnicities lie throoughout what was Yugoslavia) is to live in a parallel universe... denial is your friend I guess.

114 posted on 01/14/2004 4:48:25 AM PST by NYC Republican
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To: Lion in Winter
Perhaps we should offer this Albanian

FYI, I'm not Albanian. In addition, have the courtesy to include me in your response of you're going to talk about me.

115 posted on 01/14/2004 4:49:18 AM PST by NYC Republican
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To: NYC Republican
Your natural inclination is to think what you are thinking, i.e. "They COULDN'T have made it ALL up...". In the case of normal people, you'd be right. In the case of the Klintons and their spin machine and the NATO spin machine, that's wrong. They could and did make it all up.

There were about a baker's half dozen real reasons for wanting to do Kosovo and, together, they did not add up to a case; the pentagon advised Slick not to do it. The overriding concern at the time was the Juanita Broaddrick story on the front pages of American newspapers and journals. Something clearly had to be done and quickly, and Kosovo turned out to be the something.

Real world reasons for Kosovo included:

Note the absence of anything resembling concern over Albanian Kosovars in the list. Albanians, like chechens and palestinians, are feral people. No sane person actually gives a rat's ass over what happens to them.

116 posted on 01/14/2004 5:31:17 AM PST by greenwolf
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To: greenwolf
No sane person actually gives a rat's ass over what happens to them.

Ok, it's time to take a breath and stop letting this al-Qaeda apologist get under your skin. Yes, Kosovo has been overrun by the KLA narco-terrorists and the vicious Albanian nationalists (represented on FR by such types as Hoppy), but there's no way we should let that anger spill over to those Albanians who managed to live in peace with their Serb neighbors in Kosovo (and who will do so again when Kosovo is reunited with Serbia).

Don't let the idiots drag you down to their level!

117 posted on 01/14/2004 6:49:40 AM PST by FormerLib (We'll fight the good fight until the very end!)
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To: NYC Republican
It's NOT from the NY Times, it's from SPRSKA, the BOSNIAN SERB enclave... Total lies.

No, it clearly is from the New York Times.

If you had a shred of character, you'd apologize for falsely accusing another Freeper of lying.

We await the results of this test of your character.

118 posted on 01/14/2004 6:58:59 AM PST by FormerLib (We'll fight the good fight until the very end!)
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To: FormerLib
It is very easy for a blind to see the problems of the Islamic fanatics in Bosnia.

1)The Moslem president supported by the US reneged on an agreement with the EU to power share with Christians.

2) The Moslem president of Bosnia awards CITIZENSHIP to Osama bin Laden

3) The Moslem president of Bosnia declares in his book "Islamic Declaration" that he intends to build a great Islamic federation spreading from Moracco to Indonesia, from tropical Africa to Central Asia!

4) The Bosnian jihadists document found in Al Qaeda camp urges the fighters to suicide operations against amusement parks like Disney! I cannot imagine how any REAL American can continue to support our policy in Bosnia.

119 posted on 01/14/2004 7:25:37 AM PST by philosofy123
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To: FormerLib; greenwolf
We await the results of this test of your character

First of all, I don't need to prove anything to you. Secondly, Greenwolf - I apologize for calling you a liar. You took the liberty of painting your slant with this comment "every other ethnic group in the province were being brutalized by the Albanians" which was your comment, not necessarily Binder's.

As I said, a 17 year old article which, of which the facts as Mr. Binder saw them, were not substantiated in any well-known publication since, does not support your argument.

You were able to produce evidence of the article, so I rescind calling you a liar on that front.

120 posted on 01/14/2004 7:50:20 AM PST by NYC Republican
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