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PS: I am a pro-war but anti-nation building conservative (though war would not have been my first option). Nation building is a socialist agenda. In addition I am sympathic to some antiwar conservatives becuase I feel they are anti-war because the war implies an occupation and nation building world empire agenda.

My position is that I hope we can take out Iraq and do short term infrastructure building and then leave. We are not doing that now. Iraq I feel will be occupied by America for generations. Sadly, my position (held by many classic conservatives I hope) is complicated and thus no one can articulate it well so Iraq becomes a black and white issue.

PS: I have never heard this radio talk show host before, but I would like to have since his brand of conservativisim (classic) is the kind that attracts me.

1 posted on 01/10/2004 4:49:13 PM PST by Destro
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There's two sides to every story. I will reserve judgement until I hear Clear Channel's side.
3 posted on 01/10/2004 4:56:04 PM PST by Texas Eagle
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The Little Goy would like to believe that he was relegated to an obscure time slot only because of his views, but the fact is his personality grates on the nerves. I just don't like his style, and found him to be annoying long before the war. On top of that, when he was on during afternoon drive, he followed Rush and then Hannity, competing with Hewitt and Savage. He didn't have a prayer.

As for his views, if I wanted to hear them, I'd listen to KFYI's competitor, or watch netork news.
5 posted on 01/10/2004 5:03:42 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (www.VirtueMedia.org)
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"NATION BUILDING"

We send our soldiers everywhere; we rebuild countries that have ATTACKED US .. YET .. AFTER ALL THAT .. all we ask is enough land to bury our dead. There is no way anyone can call this "nation building". If you do .. then you're young and stupid, and you have never studied the truth about WWI or WWII .. you have only studied the watered-down, mamby-pamby texts the liberals have written for years .. blaming America for the ills of the world.

America is not a nation builder .. America is a democracy builder. Force is necessary .. at times. When Iraq continued to train, support and disburse terrorists around the world .. it was time to change their pattern.
8 posted on 01/10/2004 5:07:22 PM PST by CyberAnt ("America is the GREATEST NATION on the face of the earth")
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Some came to the debate looking for justification for going to war. Some came to the debate with a neutral outlook. Some came to the debate looking for a reason not to go to war.

Goyette was in the latter group.

He was not neutral in his assessments. I listened to him enough to know that. All evidence for going to war was subject to his most minuscule examination. If some evidence could justly be determined to be in the gray area, Goyette repeatedly saw it is falling on the antiwar side of the line.

He was, in a word, biased.
11 posted on 01/10/2004 5:12:00 PM PST by Az Joe
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I was in the Phoenix market for Spring training immediately before and after the Iraq war got underway.

I recall listening to Goyette while I was there, but I have no recollection of his positions or arguments. Instead, the overriding impression was "overbearing pompous jerk".

Consequently, the station probably had its own reasons for burying him in an overnight slot.

12 posted on 01/10/2004 5:13:17 PM PST by okie01 (www.ArmorforCongress.com...because Congress isn't for the morally halt and the mentally lame.)
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. . . I feel they are anti-war because the war implies an occupation and nation building world empire agenda.

Then they are ignorant of history. If they believe this, then Germany,, Japan, Italy, and South Korea are all subject states of the United States of America. This country has not attempted empire building since the Spanish American War.

These same "anti-war" idiots thought that the Soviet Union's activities vis-a-vis adding "client states" was merely a need for a buffer between them and the war mongering Capitalists.

15 posted on 01/10/2004 5:16:20 PM PST by Swordmaker
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A radio station can hire and fire whomever they please.

WABC fires at will!

As does WOR radio.

17 posted on 01/10/2004 5:16:32 PM PST by OldFriend (Always understand, even if you remain among the few)
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PS: I have never heard this radio talk show host before, but I would like to have since his brand of conservativisim (classic) is the kind that attracts me.

This guy's so far off the original Goldwater reservation he's somewhere out in the Pacific by now.

...and in describing the Perle resignation, I relied upon details from both Seymour Hersh in the New Yorker and from syndicated columnist Arianna Huffington.

Do tell.

America's Fifth Column ... watch PBS documentary JIHAD! In America
http://12thman.us/media/jihad.rm (Requires RealPlayer)

Who is Steve Emerson?

19 posted on 01/10/2004 5:20:24 PM PST by JCG
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Clear Channel's first, and only priority in programming is that which makes them money. If a flaming liberal got them ratings and revenue on a particular station, in a particular market - they"d run with it. This guy's show was probably not well rated, and it came to a point where he was costing more than he was brining in, and got the hook.
21 posted on 01/10/2004 5:21:02 PM PST by Keith in Iowa (The only good news for Democrats is they could save $$ by switching to Geico.)
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The award winning author and his ties to the PHXnews.....

Todd Hartley
Prior to creating PHXnews, Todd was at the forefront of radio news in the Valley of the Sun. For example, he hosted a provocative talk show, produced the popular Charles Goyette show, investigated House Speaker Grostcost's role in the alternative fuel scandal, revealed the shady deals and political shenanigans behind the Arizona Cardinals stadium, and covered the Bush/Gore presidential Indecision 2000 from Tallahassee, Florida.

Todd is a graduate of the University of Arizona and a newlywed, recently married to Wendy in September 2002.

28 posted on 01/10/2004 5:27:17 PM PST by deport (..... DONATE TO FREEREPUBLIC......)
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Email for Goyette. charlesgoyette@kfyi.com
30 posted on 01/10/2004 5:28:57 PM PST by Az Joe
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No it isn't, it was total tinfoil. I know a lot of people who are not freepers who couldn't stand the guy. He was so ill-informed it was embarrassing to listen to him. I was relieved when they moved him. It was not just about Bush and the war he was ill-informed about, it was local matters as well.

I'll be glad to know he's gone. I used to switch my radio off when I had to go shopping or drive anywhere in the evening.

Perhaps if the guy read more he wouldn't find himself unemployed. The fact that he's blaming Clear Channel is your first clue. He just got caught in too many mis-statements IMHO.

31 posted on 01/10/2004 5:29:42 PM PST by McGavin999 (Don't be a Freeploader-Have you donated yet?)
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Goyette is losing his job because he's doing badly in the ratings... And its because he's anti war that his ratings are bad...
36 posted on 01/10/2004 5:31:59 PM PST by marajade
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I've never heard Goyette on the air, but if his writing is any indicator of how he runs his show, then I'm not surprised he's being eased out. His ratings must be in the toilet.
39 posted on 01/10/2004 5:37:06 PM PST by CFC__VRWC (AIDS, abortion, euthanasia - don't liberals just kill ya?)
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Now in the absence of a meaningful Iraqi role in the 9/11 attack and the mysterious disappearance of those fearsome Weapons of Mass Destruction, there might be some psychic satisfaction to be had in saying, “I told you so!”

That is straight out of the Leftist talking points. He doesn't sound like a conservative to emit crap like that. Furthermore, such pathetic whining about how those unfair meanies "gagged" him because of Bush money is just the same old Lefty b*tch and moan.

Perhaps he's one of those talking heads that gravitate to opposing what they feel is the prevailing opinion - just so they can yell for publicity as an "independent" thinker (O'Reilly does this often).

Ultimately, it sounds like that network decided he was bad for business and sacked him. Such is life in a free market.

51 posted on 01/10/2004 5:43:17 PM PST by Ophiucus
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I was and still am in favor of the war, and I listen to Charles Goyette all the time. He is a good man, a great talkshow host and I enjoy his show. Sadly, he is the only good show left on KFYI, a radio station that is absolutely unlistenable anymore.
55 posted on 01/10/2004 5:46:25 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (Never, ever, ever trust a Tax Freedom grifter that wants your money...)
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...Wolfowitz: Mistakes Were Made.”
...Poland, Admits President; Rumsfeld: ‘Oops!’, Powell Silent; ‘Bring ’Em On,’ Says Defiant FDR.”

I would be really be startled considering most the people mentioned here weren't even born or were really young at the time.

67 posted on 01/10/2004 5:56:50 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (Proud member of the right wing extremist Neanderthals.)
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re:I am sympathic to some antiwar conservatives becuase I feel they are anti-war because the war implies an occupation and nation building world empire agenda.
 
Cool. I'm glad at least someone gets it.
77 posted on 01/10/2004 6:07:39 PM PST by tomakaze ( Todays "useful idiot" is tomorrows "useless eater")
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95 posted on 01/10/2004 6:25:09 PM PST by foreverfree
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