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How to Lose Your Job in Talk Radio: Clear Channel gags an antiwar conservative Charles Goyette
amconmag.com ^ | February 2, 2004 issue | Charles Goyette

Posted on 01/10/2004 4:49:11 PM PST by Destro

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PS: I am a pro-war but anti-nation building conservative (though war would not have been my first option). Nation building is a socialist agenda. In addition I am sympathic to some antiwar conservatives becuase I feel they are anti-war because the war implies an occupation and nation building world empire agenda.

My position is that I hope we can take out Iraq and do short term infrastructure building and then leave. We are not doing that now. Iraq I feel will be occupied by America for generations. Sadly, my position (held by many classic conservatives I hope) is complicated and thus no one can articulate it well so Iraq becomes a black and white issue.

PS: I have never heard this radio talk show host before, but I would like to have since his brand of conservativisim (classic) is the kind that attracts me.

1 posted on 01/10/2004 4:49:13 PM PST by Destro
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To: Destro
There's two sides to every story. I will reserve judgement until I hear Clear Channel's side.
3 posted on 01/10/2004 4:56:04 PM PST by Texas Eagle
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I've got a feeling this guy has been trashing Bush for three years.

And, when a liberal newspaper gives you an award for "Best Talk Show Host," you ain't exactly conservative.

4 posted on 01/10/2004 5:02:52 PM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: Destro
The Little Goy would like to believe that he was relegated to an obscure time slot only because of his views, but the fact is his personality grates on the nerves. I just don't like his style, and found him to be annoying long before the war. On top of that, when he was on during afternoon drive, he followed Rush and then Hannity, competing with Hewitt and Savage. He didn't have a prayer.

As for his views, if I wanted to hear them, I'd listen to KFYI's competitor, or watch netork news.
5 posted on 01/10/2004 5:03:42 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (www.VirtueMedia.org)
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netork?
6 posted on 01/10/2004 5:05:30 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (www.VirtueMedia.org)
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To: sinkspur
I've got a feeling this guy has been trashing Bush for three years.

So?

7 posted on 01/10/2004 5:05:33 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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"NATION BUILDING"

We send our soldiers everywhere; we rebuild countries that have ATTACKED US .. YET .. AFTER ALL THAT .. all we ask is enough land to bury our dead. There is no way anyone can call this "nation building". If you do .. then you're young and stupid, and you have never studied the truth about WWI or WWII .. you have only studied the watered-down, mamby-pamby texts the liberals have written for years .. blaming America for the ills of the world.

America is not a nation builder .. America is a democracy builder. Force is necessary .. at times. When Iraq continued to train, support and disburse terrorists around the world .. it was time to change their pattern.
8 posted on 01/10/2004 5:07:22 PM PST by CyberAnt ("America is the GREATEST NATION on the face of the earth")
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To: Jeff Chandler
Savage is less grating? Hannity is a nice guy biut his nasal voice and repetitaveness (he sometimes repeates whole catch prhases over) is kind of grating too. As for the author, like I said I have not heard his program to judge.
9 posted on 01/10/2004 5:08:01 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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When Iraq continued to train, support and disburse terrorists around the world .. it was time to change their pattern.

You are mistaken. That describes more our ally Suadi Arabia.

By the way-the occupation of Europe and Japan continues. Allowing those nations to divert vast sums to their manufacturing and social sectors.

10 posted on 01/10/2004 5:10:31 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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Some came to the debate looking for justification for going to war. Some came to the debate with a neutral outlook. Some came to the debate looking for a reason not to go to war.

Goyette was in the latter group.

He was not neutral in his assessments. I listened to him enough to know that. All evidence for going to war was subject to his most minuscule examination. If some evidence could justly be determined to be in the gray area, Goyette repeatedly saw it is falling on the antiwar side of the line.

He was, in a word, biased.
11 posted on 01/10/2004 5:12:00 PM PST by Az Joe
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I was in the Phoenix market for Spring training immediately before and after the Iraq war got underway.

I recall listening to Goyette while I was there, but I have no recollection of his positions or arguments. Instead, the overriding impression was "overbearing pompous jerk".

Consequently, the station probably had its own reasons for burying him in an overnight slot.

12 posted on 01/10/2004 5:13:17 PM PST by okie01 (www.ArmorforCongress.com...because Congress isn't for the morally halt and the mentally lame.)
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America is a democracy builder.

That's funny. Everything I have ever read shows that democracy can not be imposed from outside. In all cases where democracy flourishes a pre-existing condition for its truimph existed. The USA has never been able to impose a democracy on a nation that did not have the foundations for a democracy and the USA has never been able to create anywhere-anytime the foundations that would allow for a democracy to evolve.

13 posted on 01/10/2004 5:14:08 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: okie01
"overbearing pompous jerk".

Stern? Rush? Bob Grant?

14 posted on 01/10/2004 5:14:50 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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. . . I feel they are anti-war because the war implies an occupation and nation building world empire agenda.

Then they are ignorant of history. If they believe this, then Germany,, Japan, Italy, and South Korea are all subject states of the United States of America. This country has not attempted empire building since the Spanish American War.

These same "anti-war" idiots thought that the Soviet Union's activities vis-a-vis adding "client states" was merely a need for a buffer between them and the war mongering Capitalists.

15 posted on 01/10/2004 5:16:20 PM PST by Swordmaker
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To: Destro
No. Goyette.
16 posted on 01/10/2004 5:16:22 PM PST by okie01 (www.ArmorforCongress.com...because Congress isn't for the morally halt and the mentally lame.)
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To: Destro
A radio station can hire and fire whomever they please.

WABC fires at will!

As does WOR radio.

17 posted on 01/10/2004 5:16:32 PM PST by OldFriend (Always understand, even if you remain among the few)
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To: Az Joe
I might have to read the article again--but was he not hired to be biased???? Are not talk show hosts supposed to be biased? Even uber-biased?
18 posted on 01/10/2004 5:16:55 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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PS: I have never heard this radio talk show host before, but I would like to have since his brand of conservativisim (classic) is the kind that attracts me.

This guy's so far off the original Goldwater reservation he's somewhere out in the Pacific by now.

...and in describing the Perle resignation, I relied upon details from both Seymour Hersh in the New Yorker and from syndicated columnist Arianna Huffington.

Do tell.

America's Fifth Column ... watch PBS documentary JIHAD! In America
http://12thman.us/media/jihad.rm (Requires RealPlayer)

Who is Steve Emerson?

19 posted on 01/10/2004 5:20:24 PM PST by JCG
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That's funny. Everything I have ever read shows that democracy can not be imposed from outside. In all cases where democracy flourishes a pre-existing condition for its truimph existed. The USA has never been able to impose a democracy on a nation that did not have the foundations for a democracy and the USA has never been able to create anywhere-anytime the foundations that would allow for a democracy to evolve.

That doesn't stop us from trying. Over and over.

Of course, one definition of insanity is doing the same thing again and again and expecting a different result.

20 posted on 01/10/2004 5:20:53 PM PST by Swordmaker
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