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Illegal alien invaders can easily be or hide terrorists...the country is awash with sleeper agents from every hostile govt in the world...we have no idea how many or where they are...
So why haven't we shut down the borders and stationed troops or mined the borders...if we are truly a nation at war with international and internal terrorists...we aren't certainly aren't acting like it...
This nation is turning into a Camp of the Saints" nightmare...
Of course when the world is one race one culture of one mind under one leader then there will finally be peace...that's the New World Odor's plan anyway...flooding the west with the third world is the one of the last steps on this journey accross the bridge to the future
IMO
Abre Los Ojos
You have raised such a smear only yesterday that anyone who disagrees with you must be on a mission to parrot Democratic talking points. Anyone can use the same ploy you used, such as claiming someone who says trying to solve illegal immigration in ways they disagree with is so terrible and that President Bush is a traitor, a ruiner of the nation, and a back-stabber, and no conservative ought to vote for him, must be a Democratic operative.
As for racist statements, they do appear all too often on the immigration threads. One has to wonder if Canadians were coming to work illegally rather than Mexicans or Salvadorans, this would hardly be an issue to those who whine about the rule of law being sacrosanct. The underlying impetus they all have are Michael Savage's smears about how these Southern immigrants are the low-class bums of the 3rd world, and how "border-culture-language" are paramount to anything else, including justice and mercy.
OTOH, I've seen a number of posters who use the phrases, Democrat talking point or liberal line or liberal talking point as an attempt to smear a poster who is making a valid point. Whenever I see this debate tactic being used, I assume that the one using it is either too lazy to refute the point w/ factual information or is simply incapable of doing so because the point is a valid one. As in, when all else fails, kill the messenger (rhetorically).
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Nor are mine.
I didn't respond to your questions on the thread I pinged you to the other night, due to time and a reconsideration on my part as to the value of continuing a long running debate we've had.
This piece is, as usual, is very well written and thought out. Thanks.
It's bad enough we had to battle Clinton on these issues and that's where you're seeing all this frustration coming from. Fighting a political foe is hard enough.
America for Americans.
As interested as I am in the FACTS about the immigration issue, I have not read one FR thread on the subject lately.
My emotions are too strung out because a large chunk of my heart is in Baghdad, and I didn't think I could handle the abuse I knew I would get there.
I might just venture out now........
The latter seem to be infected with this outrageous conceit that because they are on the side of political correctness, ipso facto theirs is the voice of reason and rationality. They are like the woman who, after slamming the car door on her husband's fingers, waxes righteously indignant over the the stream of profanities that explode from her hapless husband's mouth, "Such language coming from a man your age! Henry, you're making a fool of yourself and embarrassing me and the children!"
Yes, I suppose there is room within these immigration threads for reason-based persuasion one-on-one. That has happened and will continue to happen. But as was also true regarding the campaign finance, Patriot Act, and Medicare prescription drugs debacles, you must also expect bald and loud cries of dismay and anguish. Is there any good that can come of these? I believe there is. I have this hope--perhaps it is a vain hope--that Internet fora such as Free Republic are looked at and considered by policy-makers in Congress and the administration seeking to get a rough sense of the mood of the conservative base. These policy makers are less persuaded by reason (they already believe they are the smartest people on earth) than they are by raw power. In the end, the only raw power these people will take note of is the power of rebellion. If they sense that their proposals and actions are inflaming and driving away a significant portion of their power base, they are more likely to look at other less inflamatory alternatives.
You mentioned some posters wanting to mine the border. I know of a number of FReepers who advocate shooting down airliners and private planes that stray across some imaginary line in the sky. There are many other examples of this lynch-mob mentality which is becoming more prevalent on FR recently.
Has Free Republic been successfully infiltrated by the DU crowd, moveon.org, or the American Nazi Party?
Or have some FReepers simply forgotten that we live in a country with a Constitution that guarantees due process of law? - even to people or groups that may not be in favor.
I had thought that the Posting Guidelines here on FR prohibited the advocacy of violence, but on reading them again just now, I see that the only prohibition is against "posting materials promoting violence".
I hope the management will clarify this rule and start cracking down on those wanting to kill this group or nuke that group or cut off Michael Jackon's peylotes or whatever... Frankly, all of this armchair machismo is becoming an embarassment.
Thank you for listening.
Here's the rule: Please: NO profanity, NO personal attacks, NO racism or violence in posts.
Just enforce the rule!
Treat everyone equally. No prejudice based on the topic of the thread. Just delete the post and then delete the poster for a string of deleted posts.
Is it just that it's too much of a headache for the Mods? Is this an easier way to deal with it without really dealing with it?
LOL, makes me wonder as well...
There is simply one primary point to be made regarding illegal aliens:
Either one supports enforcement of America's sovereign borders in accordance with federal law and the Constitution, OR ignores enforcement.
If it's the latter, the Republic has indeed succumbed to foreign invasion, and thus surrendered to a New World Order -- without a shot being fired.