[Sabertooth]

[Sabertooth]

FYI

[Sabertooth]

I threw this in Breaking News, because it addresses a pressing forum issue, and seemed appropriate for that purpose. You may want to move it, though.

[Constitution Day]

BUMP...great post.

This should be quite an interesting day on FR.

[Sabertooth]

FYI

[joesnuffy]

Guess not all cats have black noses..I see some are brown...
jab jab
:)
Reasonable assumptions

[Chad Fairbanks]

I know you didn't like the idea of mines being planted along the border, but what about my cross-border catapult idea, for use in returning illegal aliens to their country of origin? Isn't that a cooler idea?

;0)

[Lead Moderator]

My friend,

I know I expressed frustration to you via mail earlier today, and said it would be nice if someone spoke up in defense of what we've been trying to do.

This exceeded my hopes and expectations. Thank you sincerely. LM

[evets]

I'm a lover, not a fighter

[Huck]

This is the biggest thing since Elian Gonzalez.

[ClintonBeGone]

I'm probably in the minority with my thoughts on this thread with my personal thoughts about immigration. However, I don't really see what is wrong with a rough and tumble exchange. Those that call name are usually shown to be the shallow people that they are. Those that can't handle being called names I would categorize in the same way. Let the free market of ideas and debate flourish. No need for either side of this debate to ask Lead Mod to play soloman in this saga.

[Maigrey]

I asked TPTB if there was going to be one thread today specifically for the news conference/announcement, and they said that they weren't going to corral it.

I'm as interested in this issue as most people here are, but I won't wade into the fires of H#ll to discern the information.

I'll get a few of my favorite FRiends for a live thread later on today, and those who are cubically limited.

[truthkeeper]

Thanks for posting this, Sabertooth. It is certainly being talked about.

[John Jorsett]

Interesting how conspiracy theories seem to bubble up on these occassions. I think it must be hardwired into the human brain, since I see the same phenomenon in Democrat forums. Or do they just WANT us to think that? Hmmmm ...

[dirtboy]

Well stated, Sabertooth. I would add one additional suggestion - that there be a confederacy of the willing - those on both sides of the debate who wish to have an open, honest debate with only the occasional elbow thrown - and have those people police posters on THEIR side of the debate and tell them that items such as hyperbole, racism, race-baiting, calls for violence, flame-baiting and DNC talking points are not welcome additions to the debate. I've found that, on thorny subjects, folks need to keep their own dugout clean and in order for threads to stay out of the Backroom.

[the gillman@blacklagoon.com]

As one of the oldest, crustiest, bomb throwers around, I want to say I am with you.

There is much dissagreement, but I'd hate to see the best news forum on the net fractured by the inability to control our emotions.

I will do my best in the time remaining to me here to be as polite as possible to those #@$&**! "!@$@#%&!" who disagree with me.

[theFIRMbss]

> I do think that there are posters of diverse opinions who need to reconsider their ways, and take this effort to heart

Well, the real issue
may be that many people
simply went to schools

where reasoned exchange
was never taught. These people
are in a bind -- they

want to play, but don't
even have to "tools" to learn
to play by the rules.

[putupon]

posts referring to the President as “Jorge Arbusto,” which stopped being funny years ago,

Guily as charged, but I've never been smiling when I called the POTUS "Jorge".

Giving amnesty to the illegals is no laughing matter.

[browardchad]

Good post, Saber. I've always enjoyed reading your arguments, as well as the opposing point of view, when the conversation remains civil and on topic.

[Cold Heat]

I’ve got strong opinions and subjectivities here

of that, there is no doubt! LOL!

I have no objections to what has happened. I believe the extra attention will make both sides of this argument more succinct and factual, and at the same time less emotional.

I also understand that there is no way to eliminate emotion for arguments.

Thus-far, I find the extra attention by the mods as helpful.

"you now may return to your regularly scheduled programming"

[PhiKapMom]

Thank you for posting these comments -- very well stated.

As an example, one day I got told to get off the immigration threads because I was a Bush supporter. At the time I was agreeing with some Arizona people about their borders needing to be secured -- had nothing to do with Bush. Freeper saw my screen name and came after me without bothering to read what I had to say.

Sincerely hope that people listen to what you have to say and stop and think before they post. I have seen enough flame wars to last a lifetime as I am sure a lot of other people have. All we do in flame wars is give ammunition to the enemies of conservatives. IMO think the escalation of rhetoric and nastiness in flame wars are fueled by those very enemies of conservatives posing as Bush supporters and/or arch conservatives when they are neither. Most likely some people fueling the flame wars are from the librals pretending to be conservatives.

During the month of December, I spent a lot of time reading on FR and very little posting. It has been bothering me for sometime that some statements I see from "supposed" conservatives are right off the democRAT sites. That makes no sense to me at all and I wanted to stand back and observe for awhile. There are always disagreements but some of them have gone way over the top and fueled by the same type rhetoric that I would see on DU or RATs.com.

Thanks again for your post and this thread!