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Kids thrive on discipline
Tucson Arizona Star ^ | 01/03/04 | Betsy Hart

Posted on 01/03/2004 6:50:17 PM PST by Holly_P

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1 posted on 01/03/2004 6:50:18 PM PST by Holly_P
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To: Holly_P
I had a two year old run up and push me in the Smoke Shop today. Mama said, "now, darling,you know you aren't to push anyone."

2 posted on 01/03/2004 6:55:16 PM PST by annyokie (One good thing about being wrong is the joy it brings to others.)
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3 posted on 01/03/2004 6:55:39 PM PST by Support Free Republic (Happy New Year)
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"Asked to put a toy away, the youngster began to scream. Told to calm down, she knocked over her desk and crawled under the teacher's desk, kicking it and dumping out the contents of the drawers. Then … she began hurling books at her terrified classmates, who had to be ushered from the room to safety."

How times have changed. Back when I was in school, if a kid acted out like this, they were the ones hauled out of class...and by their ear!

Thanks to the Liberals, everyone but the unruly ones are pulled out of class. Yet another shining example of the socialist tripe the Left forces on us.

4 posted on 01/03/2004 6:56:57 PM PST by Prime Choice (Americans are a spiritual people. We're happy to help members of al Qaeda meet God.)
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To: annyokie
Did the mother apologize?
If not, as my black sister would say, "Pick up the child and hit the mother with him."
5 posted on 01/03/2004 7:01:49 PM PST by netmilsmom (RE: Bad relatives, "Her presence is like pee on a hot rock! " - Conspiracy Guy)
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To: Prime Choice
Back when I was in school, if a kid acted out like this, they were the ones hauled out of class

I am 18 years old and that would have been so in my school too. (That the offender was punished - Not the rest of the class)

My experience is not typical though, as I did not attend public school.

6 posted on 01/03/2004 7:02:29 PM PST by Holly_P
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To: annyokie
I had a two year old run up and push me in the Smoke Shop today. Mama said, "now, darling,you know you aren't to push anyone."

Had a similar situation back some time ago. I was at an arcade playing games with my younger brother in tow. I was absorbed in the game when all the sudden I felt a fist punch me in the side.

It really hurt, and I thought it was my brother rough-housing a bit too much, so I spun around and sent my fist hurtling toward what would have been my brother's midriff.

I nailed this six-year-old kid right between the eyes. Sent him straight to the floor. The look of shock on his face told the whole story: he thought he was supposed to be able to do whatever he wanted and get away with it. And someone (me) had just lowered the boom (albeit unintentionally).

Later learned that the kid was a real terror. Funny, he was always very respectful to me after that day... ; )

7 posted on 01/03/2004 7:04:33 PM PST by Prime Choice (Americans are a spiritual people. We're happy to help members of al Qaeda meet God.)
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To: Holly_P
>>I am 18 years old<<

You are not.
All I gotta say Ms. Holly is you find the best articles. For a newbie, you post more than I do.
*Big Hug*
8 posted on 01/03/2004 7:07:47 PM PST by netmilsmom (RE: Bad relatives, "Her presence is like pee on a hot rock! " - Conspiracy Guy)
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To: Holly_P
My simple advice: bring back spanking! Children under the age of seven or eight (what was formerly called the "age of reason"), are little more than two-legged animals. They can be conditioned to behave well much as dogs can. Reward good behavior; punish bad behavior with a good smart spank on the bottom.

I have just spent seven days with two very badly behaved grandchildren , age 3 1/2 and 5 1/2. It was not very pleasant. They shrieked, spilled, spat, hit, threw objects, disobeyed, sat at the dinner table loudly proclaiming "I hate all that stuff"; and after opening their Christmas gifts stated boldly, "Is that all there is?"

I am embarrassed to claim them as my grandchildren. My daughter is a high school teacher with a Master's Degree. Her husband is a Lutheran minister with a Master's in Theology. They have bought into the modern childrearing methods of negotiation, cajoling, being "best friends" with the kids, and worst of all, never saying "NO!".

I'd love to email the above article to my daughter, but she would probably never speak to me again.
9 posted on 01/03/2004 7:15:15 PM PST by Palladin (Proud to be a FReeper!)
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To: netmilsmom
Birthday Dec. 27th. I Get to vote for GWB come November assuming that by then I am not a patient in an asylum for the insane. My state has strict election laws about that.

Thank you for your kind words. Holly

P.S. I live in Illinois and my state does not have the same strict standards about letting dead people vote.
10 posted on 01/03/2004 7:16:01 PM PST by Holly_P
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To: Palladin
I have had to give my children one spanking each in their lives. Now when I threaten to spank, they know what it is.
More than spanking, removal from the situation is most important. In otherwords, "If you can't behave like a human, you will not be with the humans." Even my three year old has had the "Go to your room" treatment. When she will not move, I remove her and hold the door closed while she bellows. It takes consistency more than anything else and children must know what a spank is to be able to hold it above them.

Please send the article to your daughter, do it for her children. They deserve a parent willing to put in an effort.
11 posted on 01/03/2004 7:27:45 PM PST by netmilsmom (RE: Bad relatives, "Her presence is like pee on a hot rock! " - Conspiracy Guy)
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To: Holly_P
LOL!

Well just remember (I worked for a Psych), you get free cookies on the Psych ward.
12 posted on 01/03/2004 7:29:13 PM PST by netmilsmom (RE: Bad relatives, "Her presence is like pee on a hot rock! " - Conspiracy Guy)
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To: netmilsmom
Yes, mama was mortified, but we laughed a bit since my boys have run up and grabbed women after church (whom they assumed were me) and then when they realized their mistake were dissolved into tears.


Little bit was quite cute and told me, "Good-bye, nice lady!")when I left.
13 posted on 01/03/2004 7:36:31 PM PST by annyokie (One good thing about being wrong is the joy it brings to others.)
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To: Holly_P
Speaking of dead people voting. In Missouri it is a common place in STL for that kind of stuff to go on.
14 posted on 01/03/2004 7:38:51 PM PST by MizzouTigerRepublican (82nd ABN Gulf war vet)
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To: netmilsmom
Oh, funny story here: When I was finishing my BA, I was about 5 months gone with my last and I came downstairs to find my floppy disc (final project) covered with refrigerator magnets and my six year old looking proud. I started shreiking "Go to your room RIGHT NOW for your own safety!"

Fortunately, no harm was done to anyone or thing.
15 posted on 01/03/2004 7:42:30 PM PST by annyokie (One good thing about being wrong is the joy it brings to others.)
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To: Holly_P
"Elaborate systems that give kids multiple chances, prolonged discussions about the 'feelings' behind bad behavior, negotiations about consequences and so on are often ineffective."

There are NO multiple chances, discussions (of the type referenced here) or negotiations in this house.

Does my 5 year old act up at times and throw a tantrum? of course, she's 5 - but she is also old enough to understand there are consequences to her behavior.

16 posted on 01/03/2004 7:45:21 PM PST by Gabz (smoke gnatzies - small minds buzzing in your business -swat'em)
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To: Holly_P
ping
17 posted on 01/03/2004 7:47:06 PM PST by diamond6
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To: Holly_P
I always have a lot of laughs with my kids but they've always known when I am disappointed with them and who is in charge. They also know when I am proud or happy with them.
I can remember vividly every time I've spanked each of my kids, and why. I'm sure they do as well.

p.s. You are a posting machine Miss Holly_P.
18 posted on 01/03/2004 7:59:43 PM PST by Spruce
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To: Holly_P; Prime Choice
Back when I was in school, if a kid acted out like this, they were the ones hauled out of class

My 5 year old IS in public school and that is exactly what happens when they act like this - I know because it happened to my daughter one day.

I also purposely chose this school district when we decided to move.

19 posted on 01/03/2004 8:02:52 PM PST by Gabz (smoke gnatzies - small minds buzzing in your business -swat'em)
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To: annyokie
What was a 2 year old doing running loose in a store to begin with??????
20 posted on 01/03/2004 8:05:52 PM PST by Gabz (smoke gnatzies - small minds buzzing in your business -swat'em)
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