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SHE BOMBER
Mirror ^ | 1-3-04 | Edwards, Smith, Knight

Posted on 01/03/2004 12:02:22 PM PST by doug from upland

Edited on 01/03/2004 4:48:16 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

SHE BOMBER

Jan 3 2004

By Jeff Edwards, Justine Smith And Dawn Knight

A BA flight to Washington was cancelled at the last minute yesterday after an intelligence tip-off that a woman suicide bomber planned to blow up the plane over the US capital.

It was the third day running that a major security scare had hit the afternoon Flight 223 service from Heathrow to Washington.

US security services told Scotland Yard the woman - almost certainly linked to al-Qaeda - intended to hide eight to 12 ounces of plastic explosive in her vagina. She would then go to the toilet during the Boeing 747 flight, remove the material and detonate a blast that would down the aircraft.

A senior Yard source told the Daily Mirror: "Smuggling a bomb on to a plane by this method is one of our worst nightmares.

"If you do not have specific information about the suspect, it would be impossible to carry out an intimate body search of every female passenger."

The source said intelligence information indicated only that an attack was planned for "sometime over the holiday period".

Apparently, a particular BA flight number was at risk. The source added: "Because the intelligence did not identify a passenger by name, it was decided to disrupt the plot by cancelling the flights."

Defence analyst Paul Beaver said: "We have got intelligence, I am told, that there was a plan to take the aircraft and destroy it over Washington or fly it into something."

Yesterday's cancellation of the 3.05pm London-Washington service came less than two hours before take-off time.

BA had already checked in most of the 180 passengers for a plane that can take 490 when full. After advice and deliberation, the firm aborted flight 223 at 1.15pm.

The same flight had been grounded on Thursday after the US intelligence was passed to the Yard.

And on Wednesday, the afternoon service to Washington was escorted in to Dulles airport by F-16 fighter jets. The pilot was ordered to taxi to a spot far from the terminal, where the terrified 247 passengers were detained for three hours without being told why. Security officers questioned travellers, paying particular interest to a woman who appeared Arabic. Nobody was arrested.

Fears of another September 11 attack have heightened in recent weeks and prompted controversial British government plans to put armed air marshals on some flights.

Yesterday BA apologised to passengers who had checked in for the inconvenience, but did not tell them of the specific threat.

A statement said: "Following the latest advice from the UK Government received this afternoon, British Airways has cancelled today's flight BA223 from London Heathrow to Washington due to security reasons.

"It is expected that other flights across the British Airways network will operate as normal today."

Keith Holeman, 47, trying to get home to Alabama via Washington after a holiday in the UK with his wife and children, said: "We've been given no extra information, and we don't know what we're risking."

Defence expert Beaver spoke of a "real threat" as news emerged of the latest flight 223 scare. He said: "This is certainly unusual. The intelligence is very, very precise, which is why this one flight has been cancelled.

"Washington is the definite target. All I know is there is a real and definite threat."

Mr Beaver said al-Qaeda was known to have cells in America and one in Europe, either in London or Paris. The US revealed more details about the drama at Dulles early on New Year's Day as flight 223 passengers were kept on the runway following the fighter escort.

A security official said the decision was based on facts, not just suspicions over passenger names. He said: "We had concerns with individuals on the flight, but threat-reporting information led us to make the decision to have the flight escorted.

The official stressed it was "fact-related" and not just connected to the passenger list the US now receives from airlines flying in.

An Aeromexico flight from Mexico City to Los Angeles, believed numbered 223, had also been cancelled after US authorities refused to allow it to land.

Passengers from Thursday's aborted trip were transferred to alternative flights, but only after rigorous security screening.

Three Air France flights from Paris to Los Angeles were cancelled just before Christmas over fears of an al-Qaeda hijack plot. However one of the suspicious names on the passenger list which triggered alarm turned out to be a Welsh insurance agent.

Another, feared to be a Tunisian terror leader, was in fact a child.

A third was an elderly Chinese woman and the other three were French citizens.

BA was yesterday struggling to find alternative transport for the passengers left stranded in London. William Mallett, 38, his wife, Cathy Lewis and their son Jack, from Ashford, Middlesex, were making their way through passport control as the news came.

Mrs Lewis said: "The staff said they wouldn't be checking us in unless there was a very good chance the flight was going to go."

Mr Mallett, a transport consultant now living with his family in Arlington, Virginia, said: "I have been telling myself that if they are paying attention to this flight in particular, that is a good thing.

"But if there was a terrorist aboard would they shoot us down?"

Some stranded passengers were told BA could not accommodate them all.

A letter from the airline to travellers trying to check in at Heathrow on a later flight said: "Please accept sincere apologies for the disruption to your travel arrangements.

"We have prioritised passengers who were booked on the cancelled BA223 yesterday (Thursday)."

The British Airports Authority said there did not appear to be a problem with flight 223 passengers, but the flight itself.

A spokeswoman said: "It's the scheduled flight, not the passengers, that is causing the security delays." Today's BA flight from Heathrow to Saudi capital Riyadh and the return trip have been scrapped for security reasons.

Home Secretary David Blunkett held talks with US Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge yesterday to discuss ways to minimise disruption on flights to America.

The Home Office said the talks had been "very useful", but no specific plans had emerged during the telephone conversation.

-A CHILEAN was removed from a Madrid-Luton flight on Thursday night after he started talking loudly about the "end of the world".

He was later found with two penknives which had escaped screening detection. The man was taken into custody for questioning. The flight took off at 10.30pm, an hour later than scheduled.

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To: Sidebar Moderator
Sorry... was debating whether or not to post that one... couldn't resist! (Hey, the other wise-guys started it... ;-)
361 posted on 01/03/2004 5:04:03 PM PST by Bon mots
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To: Sidebar Moderator
Remember we are talking national security here, I will try to stay serious with the rest of my remarks.
362 posted on 01/03/2004 5:05:11 PM PST by U S Army EOD (When the EOD technician screws up, he is always the first to notice.)
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To: gitmo
The terror plans were written in Arabic, but a cunning linguist interppreted the foreign tongue in the nick of time!
363 posted on 01/03/2004 5:05:22 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: sheik yerbouty
Please don't get this started again.
364 posted on 01/03/2004 5:10:08 PM PST by U S Army EOD (When the EOD technician screws up, he is always the first to notice.)
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To: Petronski
"A cunning plan with no reasonable countermeasure."

Exactly, so why the heck are they bothering with the embroidery scissors and the swiss army knives? There are so many ways to bring down an airplane (remember that cargo undergoes minimal screening...), so why bother to strip-search granny?

Can I board my flight unmolested now?
365 posted on 01/03/2004 5:15:33 PM PST by Henrietta
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To: Sidebar Moderator
Is there any way I can get my computer to subsitute the word "Bomb Bay" for "Vagina" to keep me out of trouble??
366 posted on 01/03/2004 5:17:25 PM PST by U S Army EOD (When the EOD technician screws up, he is always the first to notice.)
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To: U S Army EOD
Try just sticking to the specifics of the posted article and not getting off on a tangent
367 posted on 01/03/2004 5:19:57 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator
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To: U S Army EOD
Ugh, I really hate those people.
368 posted on 01/03/2004 5:21:56 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: Sidebar Moderator
Okay, I promise, (snicker, snicker)
369 posted on 01/03/2004 5:22:28 PM PST by U S Army EOD (When the EOD technician screws up, he is always the first to notice.)
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To: Henrietta
Can I board my flight unmolested now?

Nope. Not as long as we are all waiting for the other shoe to bomb...

370 posted on 01/03/2004 5:30:22 PM PST by null and void (#131203-01)
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To: Sweetpkl
"Why hasn't anybody suggested we simply remove the restroom doors, put up a curtain for privacy and install security cameras in each head?"

Keep the door, install the cameras, and make the entire toilet ejectable with an attached parachute. Thus if anyone pulls out a suspicious tampon, the security monitor simply ejects the entire toilet and they can explain it to the police on the ground.

371 posted on 01/03/2004 5:38:20 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN
Whats the parachute for???
372 posted on 01/03/2004 5:43:12 PM PST by U S Army EOD (When the EOD technician screws up, he is always the first to notice.)
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To: U S Army EOD
"Whats the parachute for???"

Parachute expands after the toilet is a safe distance from the plane. It's a safety precaution against trigger happy security monitors who might just eject old Mrs. Jones who doesn't even look middle eastern.

Besides you want to give our interrogators somebody to play with don't you? No since splattering the clues from 30,000 feet.

Also you don't want the toilet falling on you from 30,000 feet without a parachute.

I suppose the toilet needs to float in case you are overseas. And maybe the door needs to lock too, to keep the suspect held until he/she can be picked up.

373 posted on 01/03/2004 5:47:18 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: doug from upland
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374 posted on 01/03/2004 5:50:58 PM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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To: DannyTN
Couldn't you make it cheaper buy just putting a strong spring on the toilet lid? If your design was used early in flight, everyone else would have to hold it. You could pass out the parachutes when they go in the head so they would understand what might happen to them.
375 posted on 01/03/2004 5:56:22 PM PST by U S Army EOD (When the EOD technician screws up, he is always the first to notice.)
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To: Boot Hill; U S Army EOD
Not really, 12 oz of Semtex-H would be about 8 inches long by 1.5 inches in diameter. --Boot Hill

Yep, and the fuze is pretty simple as well,just crimp the cap to it and it's set. no, I am not saying anything more .

376 posted on 01/03/2004 5:59:04 PM PST by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
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To: MissAmericanPie
I'm just thinking, like a soldier falling on a granade, her body would absorb most of the explosion. I thought the explosive must be really powerful for it's net effect not to be offset by igniting in about 100lbs of flesh and bone.

The article said they thought the bomber would go to the lavatory, remove the explosive, then detonate wherever she wanted. So, her body would not be a factor.

377 posted on 01/03/2004 5:59:17 PM PST by ALASKA (Bush 2004, Rice 2008/20012)
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To: ALASKA
Inside an airplane, it wouldn't make any difference if it went off outside or inside her, the expanded gases would still need to be vented from the aircraft.
378 posted on 01/03/2004 6:02:34 PM PST by U S Army EOD (When the EOD technician screws up, he is always the first to notice.)
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To: U S Army EOD
"Couldn't you make it cheaper buy just putting a strong spring on the toilet lid?"

Well I suppose. You want to eject the bomb too. So the spring would need to be under the floor. And then there's the possiblity the terrorist simply hold on to the toilet seat.

Encasing the alleged terrorist in the toilet though does allow him to be traced whereas if you just eject him and not the toilet, the terrorist could ditch the parachute and escape.

The downside of the ejectable toilet idea, of course is what happens if more than one terrorist is targeting the same flight. The loss of two or more toilets on a poorly ventilated airplane could create a terror flight of unknown proportions, not to mention a substantial biohazard.

379 posted on 01/03/2004 6:05:44 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN
Well then, close off the heads and make people use buckets in the aisles. The federal air marshalls could be trained to watch the buckets.
380 posted on 01/03/2004 6:08:07 PM PST by U S Army EOD (When the EOD technician screws up, he is always the first to notice.)
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