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VANITY: Computer Networking Problems

Posted on 12/31/2003 4:59:34 PM PST by Air Assault

My wife and I are trying to network our computers. We're both running Windows XP, we have the ethernet cable plugged in to both systems but the Local Area Connection Icon says a network cable is unplugged. Whats up with that? The connection wizard wouldn't complete the process either. It said we were unplugged or missing hardware.

I thought all we had to do was plug in the cables and the wizard thing would hook us up. I'm wondering if we need a network hub or if there is something really simple that I'm missing?

If anybody can help to steer me in the right direction I'd appreciate it.



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1 posted on 12/31/2003 4:59:35 PM PST by Air Assault
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To: Air Assault
Are you using a network hub? Or are you plugging the cable directly between computers?

If you're not using a hub, and using a cable between computers, you need to use what is called a "Cross-over" cable.
2 posted on 12/31/2003 5:01:52 PM PST by Keith in Iowa (The only recent good news for Democrats is they could save $$ by switching to Geico.)
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To: Air Assault
Are you plugging the machines directly into each other?

If so you'll need a special ethernet cable, a crossover cable.

Otherwise get yourself a hub. Or you can get a broadband router and share your internet connection (if you have one)
3 posted on 12/31/2003 5:02:05 PM PST by mikenola
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To: Air Assault
"I'm wondering if we need a network hub . . ."
Bingo!
4 posted on 12/31/2003 5:02:24 PM PST by Drumbo ("Of course I have an attitude, I spent my life beating things for a living" - Drumbo Thunder)
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To: Air Assault
If you want to connect two computers directly together, the best way to do it is to get a switch or hub. Both Netgear and Linksys make easy to setup router/switches. Both computers are assigned a unique IP address and walla, you're set.
5 posted on 12/31/2003 5:02:32 PM PST by xrp
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To: Air Assault
a hub would make it easier but you have to ALLOW each machine to share a directory (drive mapping) or a drive to make it work
6 posted on 12/31/2003 5:02:44 PM PST by Nat Turner
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To: Air Assault
If you're connecting directly between two PC's you'll need a crossover cable.

Otherwise you need a hub or switch. Plug your PC into the hub and the other one into the hub.

Hope this helps.

7 posted on 12/31/2003 5:02:50 PM PST by FReepaholic (Never Forget: www.september-11-videos.com)
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To: Air Assault
Try some of the suggestions/instructions at START button, Help and Support. Type in 'local area network' or similar.
8 posted on 12/31/2003 5:03:14 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: Air Assault
This will help you, too.

How home networking works

9 posted on 12/31/2003 5:04:03 PM PST by xrp
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To: Air Assault
You should purchase a hub. They're not very expensive if that's a consideration.
10 posted on 12/31/2003 5:04:03 PM PST by grimalkin (Do not take counsel of your fears. -General Patton)
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To: Air Assault
If you are using a single cable between the two puter then you need to get a second cable along with a cross over hub before the system will work.

Advice, if you are planning several system LAN you will want to do a hub thingy. But the simple thing is a wireless so you needn't add more hardware with each addition.
11 posted on 12/31/2003 5:05:22 PM PST by coffmg
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To: Air Assault
Do you have network IC cards installed in both computers?

If my understanding is correct, you probably need those.
12 posted on 12/31/2003 5:05:31 PM PST by Quix (Particularly quite true conspiracies are rarely proven until it's too late to do anything about them)
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To: Air Assault
You probably need what's called a cross-over cable. A hub or a switch or a router have a special input jack (usually right next to and in parallel with input #1) which simply has the receive and transmit lines flipped. If you are going computer to computer, you need to buy or make a cross-over cable. I've also heard them called a flip-flop or computer to computer network cable.

You will also need to make sure that your sharing and permissions are set properly. XP permissions can be baffling. Make sure that each user is logged on with administrative priveledges on their respective machines.
13 posted on 12/31/2003 5:06:28 PM PST by Rabid Dog (formerly Rabid Republican)
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To: Keith in Iowa
If they were wired peer-to-peer, they wouldn't communicate at all. It sounds like there's an extra NIC set up but not active. I'd blow away all of the network settings, uninstall the NICs, and rerun the hardware and network setup managers again.
14 posted on 12/31/2003 5:06:46 PM PST by Viking2002
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To: Air Assault
New Year's Eve is a bad time to be networking your computers.

Get the champagne on ice, crack open the shrimp, tune in Dick Clark (or whoever) and celebrate the New Year!

P.S. You are going to need a hub or a router.

15 posted on 12/31/2003 5:07:10 PM PST by SamAdams76 (Happy New Year!)
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To: Air Assault
You need a hub as others suggested, but might I suggest a router instead. The hub will do the job, but a router will allow you to connect a modem to the output and protect the internal network from the internet.

A router shouldn't cost more than $75. If you are using a cable modem you definitely want the router.

Linksys is what I recommend and use.
16 posted on 12/31/2003 5:08:17 PM PST by snooker
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To: Drumbo; All
Everyone who uses a network hub should go in and change the password from the factory default. Otherwise it would be possible for hackers to log into your hub and make alterations.
17 posted on 12/31/2003 5:10:52 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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Err, I meant to say 'router' rather than 'hub.'
18 posted on 12/31/2003 5:11:37 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Keith in Iowa
We are plugging the cables directly between computers with a category 5 "straight" cable. If we purchase a "cross-over" cable would that help?
19 posted on 12/31/2003 5:11:55 PM PST by Air Assault (Got Jesus?)
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To: snooker; Air Assault
You can get a hub in the local Kmart for 10-20 bucks.

But you can get a nice wireless network for both machines for about $80 with all the instructions in the box.

Router's a pretty good idea, too -- but a little more complicated to setup.

If all else fails, try cross-coupling the Heisenberg Circuits and shunt them through the Warp coil matrix. Remember to dampen the emitter array or you'll destroy all life in the Universe (safety first!).
20 posted on 12/31/2003 5:12:31 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Peace through Strength)
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