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Get Carter! [Time to invoke the Logan Act?]
Arutz Sheva ^
| 12-31-03
| Steven Zak
Posted on 12/31/2003 7:18:06 AM PST by SJackson
It was a good day for democracy Saddam Hussein caught at last. Just weeks ago, though, democracy had a bad day, when a freelance "peace" agreement was unveiled in Switzerland by an unelected Israeli citizen an instance of anti-democracy abetted by arch anti-democrat, Jimmy Carter.
I doubt that anyone would characterize Carter as a mass murderer, though as president he ushered in the era of Islamic fanaticism responsible for more murders than one would care to count. But Hussein and Carter both have a history of treating democracy with contempt one through violence, the other through a pathological compulsion to speak for people who, except under threat of torture or death, would never elect him to office.
A well-known example occurred in 1990, during the run-up to the first Gulf War, when Carter lobbied UN Security Council members to oppose the U.S. effort to stop Hussein's invasion of Kuwait. In the dozen years since that war, Carter's crimes have yet to be prosecuted.
And yes, Carter's unauthorized diplomacy constitutes serious criminality. Title 18 of the US Code, Sec. 953, says that "Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measure or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States" shall be fined or imprisoned.
That statute, known as the Logan Act, demands that diplomatic matters, on which the fate of the nation may hinge, be reserved to the elected government. Thus, when, in 1798, a Quaker from Philadelphia named George Logan went to Paris to negotiate with the French government in a personal effort to avert war between France and the United States, an outraged Congress passed "An Act to Prevent Usurpation of Executive Functions."
The basic principle behind the law that only an elected leader may speak for a nation is inherent to democracy. Hussein flouted that principle through force, Carter by usurping the prerogative of the president to be, as Thomas Jefferson wrote in 1790, "the only channel of communication between the United States and foreign nations."
Recent, unauthorized talks with the West Bank Arabs which likely had the secret blessings of Yasser Arafat and were therefore "with" a "foreign government" had the intent of influencing the conduct of (to Carter) another foreign government, that of Israel. Carter may have had no role in the actual talks, but by participating in the "ceremony", he became a conspirator with self-appointed Israeli "diplomat" Yossi Beilin. (A conspirator need not take part in every part of a plan or even know all of a conspiracy's members. As Black's Law Dictionary makes clear, he need only "know the purpose of the conspiracy and agree to become a party to effectuate that purpose.") By the plain meaning of Logan, then, Carter would seem to have "directly or indirectly" taken part in "intercourse" with a "foreign government... in relation to" a controversy that involves the United States.
If such behavior is a significant crime, why did former President George H. W. Bush decline to press charges against Carter back in 1990, as he certainly could have, and send the man to prison? One can only speculate. But here's a broader question: Why, in over two centuries, has Logan never been used to prosecute anyone?
One answer may be that disuse of the statute is self-perpetuating. A dormant law generates no case law as guidance on such issues as: In what sense must a controversy be "with the United States"? What counts as "intercourse" with a foreign government and how "indirect" may it be?
Uncertainty may be daunting, but, as we have recently demonstrated in Iraq, it's no reason to allow fundamental principles to fall by the wayside. Those who threaten democracy even if "only" by a usurpation of presidential authority must be stopped.
We have the tool; we just need the will. Then, someday, a prosecutor might say of Jimmy Carter: "We got him!"
TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: armchairnobodies; jimmycarter; loganact; viceisclosed
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posted on
12/31/2003 7:18:06 AM PST
by
SJackson
To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
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Jimmy Carter, on Israel and the Jews
1979: "I have never met an Arab leader that in private professed a desire for an independent Palestinian state. Publicly, they all espouse an independent Palestinian state -- almost all of them -- because that is what they committed themselves to do at Rabat (the 1974 Arab League summit conference)."
--President Jimmy Carter
a 1979 press conference
Early 1980:
at a March 1980 meeting with his senior political advisers, angrily snapped, "If I get back in, I`m going to f--- the Jews."
Jimmy Carter, March 1980
Late 1980: Cyrus Vance
confirmed to then-New York mayor Ed Koch that Carter, if reelected, would "sell out" the Jews
Jimmy Carter shortly before the 1980 election
2003:
had I been elected to a second term, with the prestige and authority and influence and reputation I had in the region, we could have moved to a final solution
Jimmy Carter, 12-1-2003
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posted on
12/31/2003 7:19:36 AM PST
by
SJackson
To: SJackson
"we could have moved to a final solution"
Jimmy Carter, 12-1-2003
At least he had aspirations. I always had Carter being too petty to manage much more than The Havana Bull Ring Trials.
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posted on
12/31/2003 7:26:45 AM PST
by
.cnI redruM
(Dean People Suck!)
To: SJackson
OK, I'll buy it. Let's bring Jesse Jackass in as well.
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posted on
12/31/2003 7:29:13 AM PST
by
randog
(Everything works great 'til the current flows.)
To: SJackson
The president of inflationary recession, Carter but dimly perceives light. His salutary stupidity serves as an example to us of what years of liberalism does to the mind.
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posted on
12/31/2003 7:29:20 AM PST
by
TheGeezer
To: SJackson
Jimmuh Carter. A mistake with a zipper.
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posted on
12/31/2003 7:31:25 AM PST
by
Erasmus
To: SJackson
What counts as "intercourse" with a foreign government and how "indirect" may it be? I don't know if what Carter did constitutes "intercourse" with a foreign government, but there sure is enough evidence that he screwed us on a daily basis when he was president.
That should be enough to prosecute him right there!
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posted on
12/31/2003 7:39:50 AM PST
by
VeniVidiVici
(There is nothing Democratic about the Democrat party.)
To: Erasmus
He's still running for sainthood, isn't he ?
To: SJackson
Yeah, the DOJ of a president of the ruling party imprisoning a former president of the opposition party using an 18th century law. Heaven help us all if this becomes an OK thing to do.
And... "We have the tool; we just need the will. Then, someday, a prosecutor might say of Jimmy Carter: "We got him!"
The "we" here is from someone writing in a foreign publication, the Israel National News.com. However understandable the writer's perspective is as an Israeli relative to Yassar and others, the article lacked an obligatory "IMHO".
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posted on
12/31/2003 8:13:07 AM PST
by
DaGman
To: SJackson
we could have moved to a final solution
Jimmy Carter, 12-1-2003
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posted on
12/31/2003 8:25:50 AM PST
by
putupon
(Happy New Year to all FReepers and Lurkers, even those not in good standing!)
To: SJackson
I remember the day under jackass Carter when a gallon of regular gas cost over 2 bucks. The inflation rate was 22%. Intrest rates were through the roof and you could buy a 2 dollar gallon of gas for a silver(pre 1964)dime.
Sure wish we could put this boil on the body politic in jail or at least shut his mouth.
He was a precursor to the later Toon.
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posted on
12/31/2003 8:34:44 AM PST
by
TUX
(Domino effect)
To: SJackson
bump
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posted on
12/31/2003 8:42:38 AM PST
by
steplock
(www.FOCUS.GOHOTSPRINGS.com)
To: DaGman
The "we" here is from someone writing in a foreign publication, the Israel National News.com. However understandable the writer's perspective is as an Israeli relative to Yassar and others, the article lacked an obligatory "IMHO". Steven Zak is a screenwriter and attorney in California. Hes appeared in everything from Jewish World Review (thats in NY) to the Atlantic, the NYTimes, the Chicago Tribune, USA today, Washington Times, a number of websites including Arutz Shevas English version which comes from Israel.
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posted on
12/31/2003 8:44:52 AM PST
by
SJackson
To: SJackson
Thanks for the info. I wasn't aware of this.
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posted on
12/31/2003 8:47:38 AM PST
by
DaGman
To: randog
"
Let's bring Jesse Jackass in as well."Yes and X42 also.
To: SJackson
Jimmy Carter: "Useful Idiot" or "Traitor"?
"[Marshall Tito] is a man who believes in human rights.
[He is] a great and courageous leader [who] has led his people
and protected their freedom almost for the last 40 years." -- Carter, while still in office, hailing Yugoslavia's communist dictator
"Our goals are the same: to have a just system of economics and
politics ... We believe in enhancing human rights." -- Carter comparing himself to Romania's dictator Nicolae Ceausescu
"Our concept of human rights is preserved in [Communist] Poland." -- Carter speaking to Stalinist Edward Gierek, Poland's First Secretary
"[I am] ashamed of what my country has done to your country." -- Carter speaking to Haitian dictator Lt. Gen. Raoul Cedras
"I don't see that they [the North Koreans] are an outlaw nation." -- Carter in North Korea, lauding Stalinist Kim Il Sung,
one of the most destructive and repressive dictators in history
"Ill-informed commentators in both countries have cast the other side
as a villain and have even forecast inevitable confrontation
between the two nations." -- Carter making exquisite moral equivalence between the giant and
repressive Chinese Communist state and America
Carter gave away US oversight of the Panama Canal, "the most
important waterway in the world," says Adm. Thomas H. Moorer (ret),
which is now "packed with Chinese communists."
Sadat, appalled that Carter wanted the Soviets in on Middle East peace
negotiations, decided to directly offer peace to Israel's Begin. When
their plan was essentially worked out, they then called the White House,
because obviously, "they needed someone to pay the bill" (Bernard Lewis).
Not resting on his laurels, Carter demanded the Shah of Iran step down
and turn over power to the Ayatollah Khomeini, an Islamic madman. Carter
had the Pentagon tell the Shah's top military commanders - about 150 of
them - to acquiesce to the Ayatollah and not fight him. The Shah's
military listened to Carter. ALL OF THEM were murdered in one of the
Ayatollah's first acts. By allowing the Shah to fall, Carter created one
of the most militant anti-American dictatorships ever. Soon the new Iranian
government was ransacking our embassy and held hostage its staff for over
a year. More than 20,000 pro-Western Iranians were put before firing
squads. With the Shah gone, the whole region was destabilized.
Iraq took advantage of the Shah's departure to invade Iran, a war that
killed more than 500,000 people. It also created the regional instabilities
that led to Iraqs later invasion of Kuwait and to Operation Desert Storm,
which cost the lives of hundreds of thousands more. But Carter meant well.
In the closing days of the 1980 election, Carter's White House contacted
the Soviets in a
quid pro quo to plead for assistance in stopping Reagan
from winning. In 1984, Carter himself visited Soviet Ambassador Dobrynin
to ask the Soviets to intervene on behalf of Democrats. Damning evidence
that Jimmy Carter, as both president and citizen, may have committed treason
by enlisting the help of our enemies in presidential elections.
Since leaving office, Carter has:
- praised Syria's late Assad (killer of at least 20,000 in Hama)
- praised Ethiopian tyrant Mengistu (killer of many more than that)
- secured Saudi funding for Arafat after he sided with Iraq against the US
- wrote the UN Security Council after Iraq invaded Kuwait, urging them
to thwart President Bush's pre-Gulf War coalition (designed to reverse
that act of aggression) - another action some called "treason"
"Our people, who face Israeli bullets, have no weapons: only a few stones
remaining when our homes are destroyed by Israeli bulldozers." -- from a speech written by Carter for Yassir Arafat
"[Arafat's] election [was] democratic, well organized, open and fair." -- Carter describing the "rigged" 1996 Palestinian election
"[Arafat] may well see the suicide attacks as one of the few ways
to retaliate against his tormentors, to dramatize the suffering of
his people, or as a means for him, vicariously, to be a martyr." -- Carter in an apologia for the Pali homicide-bombings
And yet, with the blood of perhaps a million people dripping from his hands,
Carter stalked the earth in his sick quest to be given a Nobel Peace Prize.
If he had any moral center at all, he would return his recent peace prize.
Carter is the smiley face of evil.
R E F E R E N C E S:
Jimmy Carter: America basher http://www.townhall.com/columnists/jonahgoldberg/jg20020515.shtml
Carter: Cuba Terror Claims False http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/682807/posts
There He Goes Again http://www.nationalreview.com/20may02/nordlinger052002.asp
You Didnt Ask for It, You Got It: Carterpalooza! http://www.nationalreview.com/impromptus/impromptus050302.asp
Carter & Castro http://www.frontpagemag.com/columnists/ponte05-08-02.htm
Jimmy Carters Trail of Disaster http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/5/12/164726.shtml
'Idiotic' Carter Castro's Dupe http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/5/15/202903.shtml
Carter, Democrats Asked Soviets to Stop Reagan http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2002/10/16/214040
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posted on
12/31/2003 10:54:36 AM PST
by
polemikos
(Drive Howard Dean Nuts - e-mail him that Bush just captured Osama too)
To: polemikos
Can't he be a traitor and a useful idiot? It's obvious that he's an idiot.
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posted on
12/31/2003 11:17:24 AM PST
by
TigersEye
("Where there is life there is hope!" - Terri Schiavo)
To: SJackson; MeeknMing
Jimmy Carter really uses the f*** word!?
Guess it runs in the family. It's one of Hillary's main adjectives.
And John Kerry could just give a f*** less about the whole situation.
Early 1980:
at a March 1980 meeting with his senior political advisers, angrily snapped, "If I get back in, I`m going to f--- the Jews."
Jimmy Carter, March 1980
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posted on
12/31/2003 1:43:44 PM PST
by
Happy2BMe
(2004 - Who WILL the TERRORISTS vote for? - - Not George W. Bush, THAT'S for sure!)
To: Happy2BMe
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posted on
01/01/2004 5:58:21 AM PST
by
MeekOneGOP
(Hillary is a TRAITOR !!: http://Richard.Meek.home.comcast.net/HitlerTraitor6.JPG)
To: SJackson; polemikos
Great article, terrific input. Thanks.
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posted on
01/01/2004 6:07:17 AM PST
by
PGalt
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