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Lee Malvo jury has reached a decision on sentence (Life without parole)
Fox News Channel | December 23, 2003 | self

Posted on 12/23/2003 12:49:12 PM PST by snopercod

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To: eddie willers
I checked and it does violate Cruel and Unusual.

A point of order here..
If we can do it often enough, then it will no longer be unusual. Since the constitution specifically states "cruel AND unusual", it will no longer fall under that category since it will only be cruel.

Problem solved.

241 posted on 12/23/2003 2:05:20 PM PST by evad (Most politicians lie, cheat and steal. It's all they know to do and they won't stop...EVER!)
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A jury recommended on December 23, 2003 that convicted sniper Lee Malvo, 18, be sentenced to life in prison for the murder of Linda Franklin, one of ten random killings that terrorized the Washington, D.C., area in the autumn of 2002. Then suspect Malvo is surrounded by deputies as he is brought into court to be identified by a witness during the trial of fellow sniper suspect John Allen Muhammad at the Virginia Beach Circuit Court in Virginia Beach, Virginia, in this October 22, 2003 file photo. REUTERS/Davis Turner/POOL-Files

242 posted on 12/23/2003 2:10:05 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: No Blue States
You are absolutely right. There is no justification for the death penalty to be at the whim of just one juror who might go squish, rather than to leave sentencing to the judges. That has been the sole duty of judges to issue sentences for more than SIX centuries, both in England and the United States.

This is the fault of the Supreme Court, which rewrote the Constitution to hand this duty to juries, rather than judges.

John / Billybob

243 posted on 12/23/2003 2:10:11 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com Visit. Join. Help. Please.)
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To: Walkin Man
You musta seen that TV show too eh?

Yes I did. And I don't believe I have ever been angrier in my whole life.

I remember the murders.
I remember the search.
I remember the "Born To Raise Hell" tattoo.

Quite possibly the sickest excuse of a human being to ever walk the earth.

244 posted on 12/23/2003 2:10:31 PM PST by eddie willers
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To: eddie willers
Well, around this house, we feel like if they executed MORE of these malcontents it wouldn't be so "cruel" or "unusual."
245 posted on 12/23/2003 2:11:23 PM PST by Howlin (Bush has stolen two things which Democrats believe they own by right: the presidency & the future)
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To: BenLurkin
I was just going to post something similar. How long before Ed Asner and Mike Farrell take up his cause? He'll probably be the commencement speaker at some university in a few years.
246 posted on 12/23/2003 2:14:58 PM PST by beaversmom
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To: Alberta's Child
"Maybe it would have been life without parole for a single murder in Alabama, but since he also killed those folks up there in Virginny we have no choice but to fry the bastard."

Two points---1) one can only hope that the above happens, and 2) that's the way that sentencing decisions OUGHT to be made.

247 posted on 12/23/2003 2:15:37 PM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: TomGuy
There are other states and other charges that can be filed How many other states? Is Alabama one? I hope some other jurisdiction will try this filth and the jury will do its job.
248 posted on 12/23/2003 2:17:51 PM PST by beaversmom
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To: ArrogantBustard
Sure, the jury system is one of the protections built into our Constitution. BUT, the jury as it existed when the Constitution and the Bill of Rights were written, did NOT include the imposition of sentence.

It was the job of the jury to decide whether or not the defendant was guilty. After that, it was the job of the judge to impose the appropriate penalty as procided by law. That's the way it was, until the Supreme Court rewrote the Constitution.

It does no violence to the protections of the jury system in the Constitution to say that the Malvo sentencing decision should NEVER have gone to the jury. Their job was done when they handed in the verdict of guilty of two counts of capital murder.

John / Billybob

249 posted on 12/23/2003 2:19:58 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com Visit. Join. Help. Please.)
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To: Southack
Here's the idiocy of the whole thing: He could be charged for just about any crime in most states right now, including crimes that were committed by others while he was in jail awaiting trial -- and he'd probably stand a good chance of being convicted anyway.
250 posted on 12/23/2003 2:20:21 PM PST by Alberta's Child (Alberta -- the TRUE North strong and free.)
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To: beaversmom
Jury foreman (and he was a man) just gave a brief statement basically saying they gave great thought to their decision and extended their sympathy to the victims' families. Took no questions.
251 posted on 12/23/2003 2:21:18 PM PST by cyncooper ("The evil is in plain sight")
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To: Southack
Bama Justice! That deserves some Skynard!


252 posted on 12/23/2003 2:21:39 PM PST by Mr.Atos
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To: Southack
I hope to God you're right and Alabama fries him.
253 posted on 12/23/2003 2:23:58 PM PST by austingirl
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To: Congressman Billybob
Interesting point.

Here's another interesting suggestion: Maybe capital cases should always be tried in such a way that a conviction carries an automatic death sentence (unless the defendant is granted clemency), and the jury does not have the option of finding the defendant guilty on lesser murder charges.

If these jurors were faced with a choice of sending Malvo to the electric chair or letting him back out on the street 30 seconds after the trial ended, I think it is safe to say that Malvo would be sitting in "Ol' Sparky" right now.

254 posted on 12/23/2003 2:24:10 PM PST by Alberta's Child (Alberta -- the TRUE North strong and free.)
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To: snopercod
Mumia Jr.
255 posted on 12/23/2003 2:27:50 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Merry Shopping Season and a Happy Pre-Christmas Storewide Sales Event!)
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To: snopercod
If he just would have said he was sorry we could have forgotten the whole thing and let him go.

He should have been toasted.
256 posted on 12/23/2003 2:34:30 PM PST by Reagan is King (The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Kill people with a sniper's rifle, get convicted, then get 3 hots a day, cable TV and clean sheets for life. Guaranteed.

Yes.

Normal people don't get it.

It's not like sending a normal person to prison for life.

Creatures like this Malvo don't mind life in prison any more than pigs mind life in a sty.

I knew those fool jurors would do this; I understand one juror on John Mohammed's trial tearfully said she would have voted for life in prison had he only shown remorse.

Fool.

There is nothing that can excuse what Malvo and his fellow creature did. Nothing.

They declared war without quarter on humanity.

257 posted on 12/23/2003 2:36:45 PM PST by Age of Reason
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To: Alberta's Child; Congressman Billybob
Isn't the jury's decision just a recommendation?

Can the Judge still override the jury by sentencing Malvo to death?
258 posted on 12/23/2003 2:40:28 PM PST by Age of Reason
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To: MEG33
yes but the kid was his "mentor's" gay lover...
they are both a protected class.
so are other minorities.
this kid was actually classified as THREE minority classes: gay, black and underage.

what else could we expect?
you can bet your sweet ass that if this had been a WHITE supremist, nazi youth or skinhead, as cheif "idiot" formerly of portland oregon said earlier in their description of the likely suspects... (which were in direct contraindication of all reports) he would have gotten the fry by friday treatment.
259 posted on 12/23/2003 2:40:48 PM PST by recalcitrant
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To: Reagan is King
If he just would have said he was sorry

Close to the truth--see my post above, post number 257.

260 posted on 12/23/2003 2:42:21 PM PST by Age of Reason
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