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Letters the Troops Have Sent Me...by Michael Moore
MichaelMoore.com ^ | 12/19/2003 | Michael Moore

Posted on 12/21/2003 7:44:44 AM PST by Conservative til I die

Letters the Troops Have Sent Me... by Michael Moore

Dear Friends,

As we approach the holidays, I've been thinking a lot about our kids who are in the armed forces serving in Iraq. I've received hundreds of letters from our troops in Iraq -- and they are telling me something very different from what we are seeing on the evening news.

What they are saying to me, often eloquently and in heart-wrenching words, is that they were lied to -- and this war has nothing to do with the security of the United States of America.

I've written back and spoken on the phone to many of them and I've asked a few of them if it would be OK if I posted their letters on my website and they've said yes. They do so at great personal risk (as they may face disciplinary measures for exercising their right to free speech). I thank them for their bravery.

Lance Corporal George Batton of the United States Marine Corps, who returned from Iraq in September (after serving in MP company Alpha), writes the following:

“You'd be surprised at how many of the guys I talked to in my company and others believed that the president's scare about Saddam's WMD was a bunch of bullshit and that the real motivation for this war was only about money. There was also a lot of crap that many companies, not just marine companies, had to go through with not getting enough equipment to fulfill their missions when they crossed the border. It was a miracle that our company did what it did the two months it was staying in Iraq during the war…. We were promised to go home on June 8th, and found out that it was a lie and we got stuck doing missions for an extra three months. Even some of the most radical conservatives in our company including our company gunnery sergeant got a real bad taste in their mouth about the Marine corps, and maybe even president Bush.”

Here's what Specialist Mike Prysner of the U.S. Army wrote to me:

“Dear Mike -- I’m writing this without knowing if it’ll ever get to you…I’m writing it from the trenches of a war (that’s still going on,) not knowing why I’m here or when I’m leaving. I’ve toppled statues and vandalized portraits, while wearing an American flag on my sleeve, and struggling to learn how to understand… I joined the army as soon as I was eligible – turned down a writing scholarship to a state university, eager to serve my country, ready to die for the ideals I fell in love with. Two years later I found myself moments away from a landing onto a pitch black airstrip, ready to charge into a country I didn't believe I belonged in, with your words (from the Oscars) repeating in my head. My time in Iraq has always involved finding things to convince myself that I can be proud of my actions; that I was a part of something just. But no matter what pro-war argument I came up with, I pictured my smirking commander-in-chief, thinking he was fooling a nation…"

An Army private, still in Iraq and wishing to remain anonymous, writes:

“I would like to tell you how difficult it is to serve under a man who was never elected. Because he is the president and my boss, I have to be very careful as to who and what i say about him. This also concerns me a great deal... to limit the military's voice is to limit exactly what America stands for... and the greater percentage of us feel completely underpowered. He continually sets my friends, my family, and several others in a kind of danger that frightens me beyond belief. I know several other soldiers who feel the same way and discuss the situation with me on a regular basis.”

Jerry Oliver of the U.S. Army, who has just returned from Baghdad, writes:

“I have just returned home from "Operation Iraqi Freedom". I spent 5 months in Baghdad, and a total of 3 years in the U.S. Army. I was recently discharged with Honorable valor and returned to the States only to be horrified by what I've seen my country turn into. I'm now 22 years old and have discovered America is such a complicated place to live, and moreover, Americans are almost oblivious to what's been happening to their country. America has become "1984." Homeland security is teaching us to spy on one another and forcing us to become anti-social. Americans are willingly sacrificing our freedoms in the name of security, the same Freedoms I was willing to put my life on the line for. The constitution is in jeopardy. As Gen. Tommy Franks said, (broken down of course) One more terrorist attack and the constitution will hold no meaning.”

And a Specialist in the U.S. Army wrote to me this week about the capture of Saddam Hussein:

“Wow, 130,000 troops on the ground, nearly 500 deaths and over a billion dollars a day, but they caught a guy living in a hole. Am I supposed to be dazzled?”

There are lots more of these, straight from the soldiers who have been on the front lines and have seen first hand what this war is really about.

I have also heard from their friends and relatives, and from other veterans. A mother writing on behalf of her son (whose name we have withheld) wrote:

“My son said that this is the worst it's been since the "end" of the war. He said the troops have been given new rules of engagement, and that they are to "take out" any persons who aggress on the Americans, even if it results in "collateral" damage. Unfortunately, he did have to kill someone in self defense and was told by his commanding officer ‘Good kill.’

"My son replied ‘You just don't get it, do you?’

"Here we are...Vietnam all over again.”

From a 56 year old Navy veteran, relating a conversation he had with a young man who was leaving for Iraq the next morning:

“What disturbed me most was when I asked him what weapons he carried as a truck driver. He told me the new M-16, model blah blah blah, stuff never made sense to me even when I was in. I asked him what kind of side arm they gave him and his fellow drivers. He explained, "Sir, Reservists are not issued side arms or flack vests as there was not enough money to outfit all the Reservists, only Active Personnel". I was appalled to say the least.

"Bush is a jerk agreed, but I can't believe he is this big an Asshole not providing protection and arms for our troops to fight HIS WAR!”

From a 40-year old veteran of the Marine Corps:

“Why is it that we are forever waving the flag of sovereignty, EXCEPT when it concerns our financial interests in other sovereign states? What gives us the right to tell anyone else how they should govern themselves, and live their lives? Why can't we just lead the world by example? I mean no wonder the world hates us, who do they get to see? Young assholes in uniforms with guns, and rich, old, white tourists! Christ, could we put up a worse first impression?”

(To read more from my Iraq mailbag -- and to read these above letters in full -- go to my website: http://www.michaelmoore.com/books-films/dudewheresmycountry/soldierletters/index.php)

Remember back in March, once the war had started, how risky it was to make any anti-war comments to people you knew at work or school or, um, at awards ceremonies? One thing was for sure -- if you said anything against the war, you had BETTER follow it up immediately with this line: "BUT I SUPPORT THE TROOPS!" Failing to do that meant that you were not only unpatriotic and un-American, your dissent meant that YOU were putting our kids in danger, that YOU might be the reason they lose their lives. Dissent was only marginally tolerated IF you pledged your "support" for our soldiers.

Of course, you needed to do no such thing. Why? Because people like you have ALWAYS supported "the troops." Who are these troops? They are our poor, our working class. Most of them enlisted because it was about the only place to get a job or receive the guarantee of a college education. You, my good friends, have ALWAYS, through your good works, your contributions, your activism, your votes, SUPPORTED these very kids who come from the other side of the tracks. You NEVER need to be defensive when it comes to your "support" for the "troops" -- you are the only ones who have ALWAYS been there for them.

It is Mr. Bush and his filthy rich cronies -- whose sons and daughters will NEVER see a day in a uniform -- they are the ones who do NOT support our troops. Our soldiers joined the military and, in doing so, offered to give THEIR LIVES for US if need be. What a tremendous gift that is -- to be willing to die so that you and I don't have to! To be willing to shed their blood so that we may be free. To serve in our place, so that WE don't have to serve. What a tremendous act of selflessness and generosity! Here they are, these 18, 19, and 20-year olds, most of whom have had to suffer under an unjust economic system that is set up NOT to benefit THEM -- these kids who have lived their first 18 years in the worst parts of town, going to the most miserable schools, living in danger and learning often to go without, watching their parents struggle to get by and then be humiliated by a system that is always looking to make life harder for them by cutting their benefits, their education, their libraries, their fire and police, their future.

And then, after this miserable treatment, these young men and women, instead of coming after US to demand a more just society, they go and join the army to DEFEND us and our way of life! It boggles the mind, doesn't it? They not only deserve our thanks, they deserve a big piece of the pie that we dine on, those of us who never have to worry about taking a bullet while we fret over which Palm Pilot to buy the nephew for Christmas.

In fact, all that these kids in the army ask for in return from us is our promise that we never send them into harm's way unless it is for the DEFENSE of our nation, to protect us from being killed by "the enemy."

And that promise, my friends, has been broken. It has been broken in the worst way imaginable. We have sent them into war NOT to defend us, not to protect us, not to spare the slaughter of innocents or allies. We have sent them to war so Bush and Company can control the second largest supply of oil in the world. We have sent them into war so that the Vice President's company can bilk the government for billions of dollars. We have sent them into war based on a lie of weapons of mass destruction and the lie that Saddam helped plan 9-11 with Osama bin Laden.

By doing all of this, Mr. Bush has proven that it is HE who does not support our troops. It is HE who has put their lives in danger, and it is HE who is responsible for the nearly 500 American kids who have now died for NO honest, decent reason whatsoever.

The letters I've received from the friends and relatives of our kids over there make it clear that they are sick of this war and they are scared to death that they may never see their loved ones again. It breaks my heart to read these letters. I wish there was something I could do. I wish there was something we all could do.

Maybe there is. As Christmas approaches (and Hanukkah begins tonight), I would like to suggest a few things each of us could do to make the holidays a bit brighter -- if not safer -- for our troops and their families back home.

1. Many families of soldiers are hurting financially, especially those families of reservists and National Guard who are gone from the full-time jobs ("just one weekend a month and we'll pay for your college education!"). You can help them by contacting the Armed Forces Emergency Relief Funds at http://www.afrtrust.org/ (ignore the rah-rah military stuff and remember that this is money that will help out these families who are living in near-poverty). Each branch has their own relief fund, and the money goes to help the soldiers and families with paying for food and rent, medical and dental expenses, personal needs when pay is delayed, and funeral expenses. You can find more ways to support the troops, from buying groceries for their families to donating your airline miles so they can get home for a visit, by going here.

2. Thousands of Iraqi civilians have been killed by our bombs and indiscriminate shooting. We must help protect them and their survivors. You can do so by supporting the Quakers' drive to provide infant care kits to Iraqi hospitals—find out more here: http://www.afsc.org/iraq/relief/default.shtm. You can also help the people of Iraq by supporting the Iraqi Red Crescent Society—here’s how to contact them: http://www.ifrc.org/address/iq.asp, or you can make an online donation through the International Federation of the Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies by going here: http://www.ifrc.org/HELPNOW/donate/donate_iraq.asp.

3. With 130,000 American men and women currently in Iraq, every community in this country has either sent someone to fight in this war or is home to family members of someone fighting in this war. Organize care packages through your local community groups, activist groups, and churches and send them to these young men and women. The military no longer accepts packages addressed to “Any Soldier,” so you’ll have to get their names first. Figure out who you can help from your area, and send them books, CDs, games, footballs, gloves, blankets—anything that may make their extended (and extended and extended…) stay in Iraq a little brighter and more comfortable. You can also sponsor care packages to American troops through the USO: http://www.usocares.org/.

4. Want to send a soldier a free book or movie? I’ll start by making mine available for free to any soldier serving in Iraq. Just send me their name and address in Iraq (or, if they have already left Iraq, where they are now) and the first thousand emails I get at soldiers@michaelmoore.com will receive a free copy of "Dude..." or a free “Bowling…” DVD.

5. Finally, we all have to redouble our efforts to end this war and bring the troops home. That's the best gift we could give them -- get them out of harm's way ASAP and insist that the U.S. go back to the UN and have them take over the rebuilding of Iraq (with the US and Britain funding it, because, well, we have to pay for our mess). Get involved with your local peace group—you can find one near where you live by visiting United for Peace, at: http://www.unitedforpeace.org and the Vietnam Veterans Against War: http://www.vvaw.org/contact/. A large demonstration is being planned for March 20, check here for more details: http://www.unitedforpeace.org/article.php?id=2136. To get a “Bring Them Home Now” bumper sticker or a poster for your yard, go here: http://bringthemhomenow.org/yellowribbon_graphics/index.html. Also, back only anti-war candidates for Congress and President (Kucinich, Dean, Clark, Sharpton).

I know it feels hopeless. That's how they want us to feel. Don't give up. We owe it to these kids, the troops WE SUPPORT, to get them the hell outta there and back home so they can help organize the drive to remove the war profiteers from office next November.

To all who serve in our armed forces, to their parents and spouses and loved ones, we offer to you the regrets of millions and the promise that we will right this wrong and do whatever we can to thank you for offering to risk your lives for us. That your life was put at risk for Bush's greed is a disgrace and a travesty, the likes of which I have not seen in my lifetime.

Please be safe, come home soon, and know that our thoughts and prayers are with you during this season when many of us celebrate the birth of the prince of "peace."

Yours,

Michael Moore mmflint@aol.com www.michaelmoore.com


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To: Conservative til I die
"Bowling For MediaTime". Who could believe this liar anyway. these letters are in his wet dreams.
101 posted on 12/21/2003 11:47:17 AM PST by fish hawk (John 11:35 "Jesus Wept")
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To: Conservative til I die
What was their motivation for enlisting other than money?
102 posted on 12/21/2003 11:47:57 AM PST by mabelkitty
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To: Sidebar Moderator
I'll abide by that, but I think a little extra admonition is in order for CJ, who came on this thread and started posting about the WOD and me being a leftist for no other reason than to bait me.
103 posted on 12/21/2003 11:48:35 AM PST by Conservative til I die
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To: Criminal Number 18F
Thanks for weighing in! I *know* you know what you're talking about!
104 posted on 12/21/2003 11:49:21 AM PST by bootless (Never Forget)
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To: Conservative til I die
Maybe if you had added a 'barf alert' or a small statement indicating that you yourself do not subscribe to this liberal screed then there wouldn't have been any misunderstanding on your motivations.
105 posted on 12/21/2003 11:52:28 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: mabelkitty
Could be that they're just in it for the money. Although I think what each of these writers do in the Army would be more telling. A gunnery sergeant, I would say no, not for the money. A cook? A mechanic? Someone else on the sidelines, more likely yes. Not to say that the majority of those doing those jobs are just in it for the money, but that it seems the frontline, hardcore folks tend to skew more towards the gung-ho, patriotic sort, while those in the reserves or doing the maintenance/cooking and hold these opinions skew more towards the "in it for the money and experience" crowd.
106 posted on 12/21/2003 11:52:39 AM PST by Conservative til I die
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To: Cultural Jihad
Maybe if you had added a 'barf alert' or a small statement indicating that you yourself do not subscribe to this liberal screed then there wouldn't have been any misunderstanding on your motivations.

Oh bullcrap. You were baiting and you know it. How come, out of 105 responses to the thread, you're the only one (with the exception of one other poster who merely asked why I posted Moore's crap, without questioning my credentials) who needs a BARF ALERT to get the point of the article?

Anyone questioning my motives can check out the time I've put in here and my other posts. IOW, it's pretty clear I'm no fly-by-night DU disruptor. I just don't insult my audience; I think they can figure out that the mere words "MICHAEL MOORE" in a post should signal to them that it's time to break out the vomit bags.

I don't feel that I have any more reason than anyone else to post a disclaimer for every post of mine, just because you can't handle my views on the War on Drugs, which frankly, belong on threads about the War on Drugs, NOT HERE!
107 posted on 12/21/2003 11:56:44 AM PST by Conservative til I die
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To: No More Gore Anymore
I agree they could just be your liberal soldier.

Right... could be. I have known about six liberals in SF over my time there so it's possible. Of course, the guys that look liberal to us might just be not very conservative.

Like I said, the Army is a big service. While the fighting units tend to be statistically speaking southern, rural, and conservative, there are a lot of urban people, including minorities, who come in the Army for a job. A lot of them are not liberals, but a lot of them are and see the service as a less shameful alternative to welfare.

Many of these support troops are destined for replacement by contractors, which will have some unintended effects. For one thing, expect a lot of wailing when the positions eliminated are disproportionately filled with minority soldiers. For another, the military will get more white, southern, rural and conservative, distancing it even more from the centre of society.

Already we see some assortative behaviour in the military. Certain units have a high percentage of veterans' children in them... does this mean we are developing a military caste? Or have we had one all along? Good thing or bad thing? It might be better to have more liberals, but certainly in my unit a liberal would be uncomfortable and alone...

Officer ranks, especially non-combat officers, include some liberals; the elitism of liberalism appeals to them. Women in the service are more likely to be liberal than the men (notice how close the passenger of Broomstick One stuck to groups of servicewomen, and how few male servicemen were quoted about her visit). There's also a variation betwen services: the Navy and Air Force seem to have more libs than the Army or Marines. But the biggest fault line seems to be between the folks that go get shot at and the ones that don't -- liberals in the former group are very very rare.

One reason for that is that liberals have been teaching their kids for two generations now that only chumps join the military, and to "loathe" (clinton's word) the services. The loathing is returned and there is just not much scope for a meeting of the minds.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

108 posted on 12/21/2003 12:05:21 PM PST by Criminal Number 18F
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To: Conservative til I die
He's just pissed that there's an ever growing debate on the WOD. For so long it couldn't even be discussed, and now the damn thing's coming apart at the seams.
109 posted on 12/21/2003 12:56:31 PM PST by Wolfie
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To: mhking
I'll lay money that each of the "soldiers" whose "letters" he produced are merely figments of his fertile imagination. After all, he proved with his lie of a documentary that he's adept at ignoring the truth when it suits his feeble needs.

Absolutely, this is another obvious attempt by the leftist Michael Moore who truly hates GW to undermine his efforts in the war on terrorism. Did he show any concern for the soldiers when they were fighting in Bosnia under Clinton's command? Where was his heart then? There is no question that some disgruntled soldiers might surface in such situations, but what Moore is doing through these few uncorroborated and unsubstantiated letters is painting with a broad brush the US military as being totally depressed and disillusioned with the war and the President.

I suspect that the more success GW has in the war the more Michael Moore and people like him will be crying foul from the depths of their psychopathic minds.

110 posted on 12/21/2003 1:26:56 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul (Freedom isn't won by soundbites but by the unyielding determination and sacrifice given in its cause)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
The only way I will believe these are letters from soldiers over there is if he let's us see the email header.

I will look at the link in post 9 in a moment. I have to get dinner on for the family.
111 posted on 12/21/2003 2:10:32 PM PST by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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To: Criminal Number 18F
You're welcome. And yeah, I know. A few leftists must slip in there. But this Victim Culture thing that MM loves to flog is just sickening - he makes it sound like the soldiers were forced into the service. No wait, there's no draft. Never mind.

Thanks for the detailed explanation of the various types of discharge. That "Honorable with Valor" went CLANK for me, too, and I never served.

(And yeah, aren't fridges great?!)
112 posted on 12/21/2003 2:11:47 PM PST by bootless (Never Forget)
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To: FRMAG
I wonder where he got the idea that truck drivers carried sidearms?
113 posted on 12/21/2003 2:12:29 PM PST by R. Scott (It is seldom that any liberty is lost all at once.)
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To: Criminal Number 18F
I've worked in both MI and SF circles, and it is a pretty sharp contrast, especially among the officers. MI officers, on the whole, are a pack of elitist weasels. I had to work with one recently who's views were so whacked out she was either an extreme liberal or extreme libertarian. SF officers are generally serious and results oriented people. They're a hardy, conservative and open minded bunch.

As far as the people themselves, MI enlisted are a very easygoing group of geeks, misfits and genuises. It's not a liberal organization in the least, but you wouldn't get your ass kicked by being an opinionated lefty. Being MI doesn't require an ounce of common sense, so a liberal can function just fine. They seem to thrive in the great bastions of Political Correctness (and intelligence collection on the side) known as R-SOC Field Stations.

18 series guys are a little different. They're very apolitical at the E6 level, but as they get older they all seem very conservative. I can't even imagine a liberal ODA Team Sergeant. Some of the Sergeants Major I've known have been openly pro Bush in ways that wouldn't fly in other units.

114 posted on 12/21/2003 2:20:18 PM PST by Steel Wolf (The Original One Man Crusading Jingoist Imperialist Capitalist Running Dog Paper Tiger himself)
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To: Jeff Head; Travis McGee; Luis Gonzalez; joanie-f
Military ping!
115 posted on 12/21/2003 2:24:37 PM PST by bootless (Never Forget)
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To: bootless
Yeah, hardass Marines and Soldiers have SO much respect for 350 pound mega-slugs like MM. In his dreams!
116 posted on 12/21/2003 3:35:48 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Tuxedo
IIRC, Germany declared war on us after we declared war on Japan, so we then declared war on Germany.
117 posted on 12/21/2003 7:24:40 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Are you pondering what I'm pondering?)
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To: Travis McGee
Only a dumb f^%* like Moore, who made money off of a tragedy like what happened at Columbine, would sink this low.
Say what you will about "McCarthyism", but I'd love to see his fat a$$ answering to SOMEONE.
118 posted on 12/21/2003 7:36:49 PM PST by LisaMalia (Buckeye Fan since birth!!)
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To: Conservative til I die
"The world is full of willing people, some willing to work, the others willing to let them."
-- Robert Frost
119 posted on 12/21/2003 7:52:20 PM PST by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: Conservative til I die
WELL MR. MOBY, I JUST TALKED TO R. LEE ERMY AND HE WAS IN THE FIELD WITH OUR TROOPS UNLIKE YOU AND HE WAS TOLD A DIFFERENT STORY. LIKE HE TOLD THE CNN REPORTER, "LADY YOUR SOURCES ARE FULL OF S**T!"
120 posted on 12/21/2003 8:08:06 PM PST by longfellow (www.ultimateamerican.com)
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