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Holiday dream toy? Modern-day BB gun is no such thing
Minneapolis Star-Tribune ^ | December 12, 2003 | Rebecca Thoman

Posted on 12/12/2003 7:54:09 AM PST by jdege

day dream toy? Modern-day BB gun is no such thing

Rebecca Thoman
Published December 12, 2003

A boy's Christmas wish list that includes BB or pellet guns is a parent's worst nightmare. One look at contemporary pellet guns, named and modeled after their grown-up counterparts, the Uzi semiautomatic or the Magnum .44, should convince any parent that these "toys" are not what they used to be.

Modern BB guns are nothing like the wooden-stock rifles of 1938, the kind yearned for by Ralphie in the holiday classic, "A Christmas Story." Eighty percent of BB guns on the market today attain muzzle velocities (the speed at which the projectile leaves the barrel of the gun) high enough to penetrate bone. More than half meet or exceed the muzzle velocity of pistols.

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The newest fad in pellet guns is the airsoft replicas, realistic Glock and Beretta lookalikes. Replicgun.com, a Web site that sells these toys boasts, "the real thing without the danger." But consider these incidents:

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Giving a child a toy gun that looks real could be placing him in danger, especially when these contemporary replicas look more like the semiautomatics assault rifles packed by street thugs than the hunting rifles of yesteryear.

According to Dr. Farideh Kioumehr-Dadsetan of the Internaional Health and Epidemiology Research Center, "Giving our kids toy guns and telling them to stay away from the real thing sends a mixed message."

She urges children and parents to swap their toy guns for other nonviolent options.

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Dr. Rebecca Thoman is executive director of the St. Paul-based Citizens for a Safer Minnesota Education Fund.

(Excerpt) Read more at startribune.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: 2ndammendment; bang; banglist; bbguns; christmas; grinch; gungrabbers; mediabias; minnesota; propaganda; redstartribune; scrooge; secondammendment; youllputyoureyeout
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To: jdege
Oh yea baby, yea!!! a Dillon Aero rebuild, perhaps?
21 posted on 12/12/2003 8:12:37 AM PST by bullseye1911 (Ignorance is cured by education, stupid is terminal.)
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To: jdege
Is the Minneapolis Star-Tribune the only paper in that town? The articles that it prints are so left-wing and idiotic that I pity the people in that city that still want to read a daily paper.
22 posted on 12/12/2003 8:12:56 AM PST by RicocheT
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To: Pete'sWife
PaintBall Gun! Now that's what I need to pop at the stray dogs and BUMS around here.

BBs & pellets are dangerous and bit too much just to drive off a dog - and I don't want to break out my .410 shotgun to get rid of the bums (too much noise)...

23 posted on 12/12/2003 8:14:08 AM PST by steplock (www.FOCUS.GOHOTSPRINGS.com)
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To: jdege
Eighty percent of BB guns on the market today attain muzzle velocities (the speed at which the projectile leaves the barrel of the gun) high enough to penetrate bone.

Another liberal lie. Very few BB guns attain velocities above 400 feet per second, the level usually considered sufficient to penetrate normal human skin.

As usual, the author is lieing to the public by mislabeling and misrepresenting terminology. BB guns shoot BB's, specific projectiles that are .177 inch round steel balls usually copper coated.

BB guns are a subclass of air guns, of which many are designed for hunting, target shooting, and in general, have been highly developed for many of the purposes that very low powered "parlor guns" were used for before they were outlawed in much of Europe, Asia, and most of the world through excessive regulation and "gun control".

To equate BB guns with all air guns is a simple, straightforward lie.

Typical of the left.

24 posted on 12/12/2003 8:14:34 AM PST by marktwain
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To: jdege
"Careful with that BB gun, a cop will shoot your eye out!"
25 posted on 12/12/2003 8:16:55 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Police officials view armed citizens like teachers union bosses view homeschoolers.)
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To: jdege
"Giving our kids toy guns and telling them to stay away from the real thing sends a mixed message."

I agree. That is stupid. You should give your kids toy guns and teach them how to handle REAL ones.

26 posted on 12/12/2003 8:19:18 AM PST by leadpencil1 (Kill your television)
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To: crosshair
ping
27 posted on 12/12/2003 8:19:43 AM PST by leadpencil1 (Kill your television)
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To: jdege

28 posted on 12/12/2003 8:24:15 AM PST by Slicksadick
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To: leadpencil1
I love my Gamo 8 shot (Pellet only). I don't have the laser-- yet(Damn Crows!!):


29 posted on 12/12/2003 8:24:24 AM PST by CygnusXI (Where's that dang Meteor already?)
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To: bullseye1911
My parents did the same. They would not allow me to have a bb gun, but they did give me a .22. They wanted me to always think "down range" safety.

Regarding realistic guns though, I came down the stairs one day and saw what I thought was a Sig .226 on the floor in front of the TV - my heart jumped ! I wondered how that pistol was where the kids could play with it? But it was an airsoft gun - which is an airgun that shoots low-velocity plastic balls.

One of my friends was driving through an upscale neighborhood and passed a juvenile by the street aiming a bb gun at passing cars. My friend stopped and told him not to do that. The kid smugly asked why. My friend showed him a (formerly concealed) pistol and said that someone might mistake his gun for a real one. The kid turned pale and immediately agreed that he could be placing himself in a dangerous position.

Kids don't know until they are properly educated. neighborhood

30 posted on 12/12/2003 8:24:48 AM PST by NorthGA
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To: holdmuhbeer
Dad bought me a 22 instead of a bb gun. Said I wouldn't respect a bb gun.
31 posted on 12/12/2003 8:25:18 AM PST by wordsofearnest (It ain't the whistle that pulls the train.)
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32 posted on 12/12/2003 8:26:17 AM PST by Slicksadick
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To: jdege
They still make the Red Ryder guns. My son received one last year from his Grandpa for Christmas.
33 posted on 12/12/2003 8:27:44 AM PST by Aggie Mama
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To: bullseye1911
"I did not want them to ever use them or think of them as toys!. The carrot was a .22 of their own(with supervision)when I was comfortable with their safety and proficiency."

That's the way we've handled it too. Our sons don't have toy guns (except Super-soakers!), but they both know that when Dad considers them responsible they'll have the opportunity to learn on the real thing. My husband took our 10 year old out for the first time a couple of weeks ago. It was a big step for him, and he was proud to bring home his target to show off. Our 8 year old is still too apt to be silly when discussing gun safety, so he'll be waiting a while.

34 posted on 12/12/2003 8:29:29 AM PST by Think free or die
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To: jdege
Our boys LOVE their (classic-styled) BB Guns they got for Christmas the last couple of years. They have helped keep the hungry rabbits out of our garden, and target shoot in the field every so often. It teaches them RESPONSIBILITY fer cryin' out loud.

35 posted on 12/12/2003 8:41:14 AM PST by Marie Antoinette (Happily repopulating the midwest since 1991!)
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To: jdege
In europe they are using such bb guns (after enhancement) for self defense.
36 posted on 12/12/2003 8:51:34 AM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: Think free or die
Good for you. And congratulations for picking a husband who keeps his kids safe!

Interesting sidebar, I was asked to provide shotgun safety instruction for a boyscout jambouree a few years back at the Michigan ATA trapgrounds.

What was even more astounding than the fact nearly half of the scout masters were women (for which I compliment them for stepping up to the plate) was that I had 2 female scoutmasters refuse to allow their scouts to be "exposed to guns."

Amazing, considering my credentials and those of the other instructors.(2 DNR officers,1 State Trooper, and another NRA Cert. Inst.)When told they wouldn't get the merit badge, they raised hell, wanting an option for an "alternative badge." I reminded them of the fact that roughly 50% of homes had guns and it was fair to assume their scouts would be exposed to guns at some point, they were putting their charges in more danger by not teaching gun safety, they complained to the "officials" about the gun nuts in the pavilion! Sigh!!!

37 posted on 12/12/2003 8:59:52 AM PST by bullseye1911 (Ignorance is cured by education, stupid is terminal.)
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To: jdege
"Modern BB guns are nothing like the wooden-stock rifles of 1938.."

It took me about 3 seconds to find one of these for sale on the web...


38 posted on 12/12/2003 9:05:29 AM PST by Jaxter ("When they come for your guns, give 'em your ammo first.")
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To: jdege
I agree. No BB guns in my house.


I bought my daughter a .22 rifle.
39 posted on 12/12/2003 9:07:51 AM PST by Gamecock (Galatians 1:15)
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To: big_Rob
The 30-30 is for ME.

I'm looking to buy an M-1 Garrand.

Does anyone know where I can get a good one for not a whole lot of money?

I want it because it's the rifle that won WWII, and it's a dandy weapon to shoot.

Targets only, of course.
40 posted on 12/12/2003 9:12:45 AM PST by Pete'sWife (Dirt is for racing... asphalt is for getting there.)
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