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Was Hillary's Iraq ploy treason?
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Friday, December 12, 2003 | By Kenneth R. Timmerman

Posted on 12/12/2003 2:29:20 AM PST by JohnHuang2

Was Hillary's Iraq ploy treason?
Officials say Clinton's 'badwill tour' plays into hands of enemies

Posted: December 11, 2003
5:00 p.m. Eastern

By Kenneth R. Timmerman
© 2003 Insight/News World Communications Inc.

Former Clinton White House adviser Dick Morris called it Hillary's "badwill tour of Iraq." Certainly Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's grousing to the troops brought no wild cheers, unlike the scene when President George W. Bush showed up unannounced on Thanksgiving Day to serve turkey to servicemen and women on combat duty in Baghdad. According to some reports, she is so unpopular among the armed forces that her Pentagon minders had to assign soldiers to greet her.

The former first lady, touted by many Democrats as their best hope at wresting the presidency from Bush in 2004, insisted that she had come to Baghdad to tell the troops that "Americans are proud" of them. But, she added, back home "many question the administration's policies." Then she launched into a personal attack on the president for having been "obsessed with Saddam Hussein for more than a decade." It was not exactly what you'd call a morale booster, and the troops hated it.

Al-Jazeera, the Qatar government's own jihad TV network, broadcast her remarks immediately in Arabic translation. To our enemies, the propaganda value of having a member of the U.S. Senate, who sits on the Senate Armed Services Committee, come to a war zone to criticize her president and express doubts about the leadership of the U.S. military was crystal clear. Al-Jazeera also gave prominent play to comments by her companion, fellow Democratic Sen. Jack Reed of Rhode Island, who opined that the administration's justification for the war was "tenuous at best" and that Americans "could look back and see the decision to attack Iraq was one that ended up being very, very costly."

Former police captain Anwar Ibrahim is Iraq's deputy minister of interior. Asked about earlier blasts against the president and the U.S.-led reconstruction effort by Democratic presidential contenders back in the United States, he told former New York City police commissioner Bernard Kerik that the Democrats would do better to keep their mouths shut.

"Our enemies all have satellite television and they are watching," Kerik recalls Ibrahim saying. "When they hear this kind of thing, they think they are winning." Such delusions cost American lives.

Kerik, who recruited Ibrahim to head up the effort to build a new Iraqi police department to fight the Ba'ath Party remnants on the ground, sharply criticized Congress for politicizing the postwar efforts. Every day Congress debated whether to consider the $20 billion for Iraqi reconstruction a loan or a grant spawned new U.S. casualties on the ground, he said, by delaying the training of new Iraqi recruits.

"We lost at least eight weeks of training – that's 3,000 recruits," he told an audience at the American Enterprise Institute.

Kerik recalled taking visiting NBC News anchor Tom Brokaw on a nighttime tour of downtown Baghdad at a time when U.S. TV networks were portraying the Iraqi capital as a nightmare of looting and lawlessness and where U.S. troops were sitting targets. Instead, Kerik says, they drove down street after street lined with refrigerators, air conditioners and other merchandise for sale with no guards and no looters anywhere in site.

"In the U.S., what we don't hear is the successes of our people in fighting the Ba'athists," he said. "It is essential for the American people to know that we are not losing the battle; we are winning it."

So were Sens. Clinton and Reed aiding and abetting the enemy in a replay of actress Jane Fonda's infamous "Hanoi Jane" stunt at the peak of the Vietnam War?

Not so fast, says lawyer and author Henry Mark Holzer, who has written a book on Fonda's exploits during the Vietnam War and published a recent monograph, "Why Not Call It Treason?"

What the former first lady did in Baghdad "may be comfort to the enemy, but it's not treason," he tells Insight. There have been no treason prosecutions in the United States since the World War II era trials of broadcasters Tokyo Rose and Axis Sally.

"Nobody has been charged with treason since," Holzer points out, "not even Aldrich Ames or John Walker Lindh," the U.S. Taliban recruit whom Holzer called "a poster boy for treason."

Clinton's trip to Baghdad "was a bit like a U.S. senator going to Omaha Beach just after D-Day and attacking President [Franklin D.] Roosevelt and the war effort," Holzer says. "It was typically Clintonesque. It was overtly political, it was disloyal and it was pathetic. But it was not treason." For stunts such as hers, the only possible remedy is at the ballot box. "It's the price we pay for the First Amendment," he says.




TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: hillary; kennethrtimmerman; sedition; tokyohillary; treason
Friday, December 12, 2003

Quote of the Day by skeeter

1 posted on 12/12/2003 2:29:20 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
"It's the price we pay for the First Amendment," he says.
The First what? I guess this was written before the recent Supreme Court over-ruling of the 1st Amendment.
2 posted on 12/12/2003 2:34:57 AM PST by samtheman
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To: All
THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: Article III: Section 3: "Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court. The Congress shall have power to declare the punishment of treason, but no attainder of treason shall work corruption of blood, or forfeiture except during the life of the person attainted."

3 posted on 12/12/2003 2:37:04 AM PST by Cindy
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To: JohnHuang2; Mia T; Miss Marple; sarcasm; Registered; doug from upland
Ping
4 posted on 12/12/2003 2:37:32 AM PST by Cindy
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To: JohnHuang2
Did Shrillery's acts give aid and comfort to the enemy? Yes. Therefore: TREASON. QED.
5 posted on 12/12/2003 2:44:42 AM PST by nightdriver
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To: JohnHuang2
The former first lady, touted by many Democrats as their best hope at wresting the presidency from Bush in 2004, insisted that she had come to Baghdad to tell the troops that "Americans are proud" of them. But, she added, back home "many question the administration's policies." Then she launched into a personal attack on the president for having been "obsessed with Saddam Hussein for more than a decade." It was not exactly what you'd call a morale booster, and the troops hated it.

And she is supposed to be smart??

Doesn't sound too smart to me. She doesn't seem to know how to win her audience, does she?

ScaniaBoy

6 posted on 12/12/2003 2:44:59 AM PST by ScaniaBoy
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To: JohnHuang2
Disloyal and pathetic work. Bump.
7 posted on 12/12/2003 2:51:40 AM PST by FreedomPoster (this space intentionally blank)
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To: Cindy
"No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act,"

How about millions?
8 posted on 12/12/2003 2:52:50 AM PST by Broadside Joe
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To: JohnHuang2
Hillary Clinton is unfit to ever be Commander in Chief of Our Brave Troops. Hillary can stand on her Commie Husband Bill’s Shoulders, Climb the Tallest Mountain, and the Two together still would not be Tall Enough to Stand in President Bush’s Shoes.
9 posted on 12/12/2003 3:36:15 AM PST by Eldorado431
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To: samtheman
"It's the price we pay for the First Amendment," he says.

Sorry, that one got lost in the penumbra.

10 posted on 12/12/2003 4:00:05 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Uday and Qusay and Idi-ay are ead-day)
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To: JohnHuang2
To our enemies, the propaganda value of having a member of the U.S. Senate, who sits on the Senate Armed Services Committee, come to a war zone to criticize her president and express doubts about the leadership of the U.S. military was crystal clear.

That about sums it up.

11 posted on 12/12/2003 4:12:04 AM PST by b4its2late (The Lord made man before woman to give him time to think of an answer for her first question.)
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To: JohnHuang2
...she is so unpopular among the armed forces that her Pentagon minders had to assign soldiers to greet her.....

It was not exactly what you'd call a morale booster, and the troops hated it.....

LOL!! How funny. Soldiers had to be ASSIGNED to greet her.

Wow, Hitlerty. Makes me wonder if anyone else really thinks much of the witch of New York.

12 posted on 12/12/2003 4:50:11 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Laura Ingraham and Ann Coulter are living proof that not all blonds are dumb.)
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To: b4its2late
On the other hand to say this in the sadam Iraq you would be shot along with all who dare broadcast it.

Perhaps the message of open decent in a democratic republic will also be received.

13 posted on 12/12/2003 5:58:34 AM PST by justrepublican (The liberal tank think is working.)
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To: JohnHuang2
Hillary Criminalinton is a traitor, and a bag of human pus whose presence on our Senate floor (the Senate Armed Services Comittee???!!!) is a snap-kick to the scrotum of all America.

;-/

14 posted on 12/12/2003 8:04:45 AM PST by Gargantua (Choose this day Whom you will serve.)
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To: JohnHuang2
Let's say that in 1944 a U.S. Senator went to Normandy and told the troops the same thing, she would not have been charged with treason, but it would have utterly destroyed her political career.
15 posted on 12/12/2003 8:08:53 AM PST by squidly
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16 May, 1918
The U.S. Sedition Act
United States, Statutes at Large, Washington, D.C., 1918, Vol. XL, pp 553 ff.
A portion of the amendment to Section 3 of the Espionage Act of June 15, 1917.



SECTION 3. Whoever, when the United States is at war, shall willfully make or convey false reports or false statements with intent to interfere with the operation or success of the military or naval forces of the United States, or to promote the success of its enemies, or shall willfully make or convey false reports, or false statements, . . . or incite insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, or refusal of duty, in the military or naval forces of the United States, or shall willfully obstruct . . . the recruiting or enlistment service of the United States, or . . . shall willfully utter, print, write, or publish any disloyal, profane, scurrilous, or abusive language about the form of government of the United States, or the Constitution of the United States, or the military or naval forces of the United States . . . or shall willfully display the flag of any foreign enemy, or shall willfully . . . urge, incite, or advocate any curtailment of production . . . or advocate, teach, defend, or suggest the doing of any of the acts or things in this section enumerated and whoever shall by word or act support or favor the cause of any country with which the United States is at war or by word or act oppose the cause of the United States therein, shall be punished by a fine of not more than $10,000 or imprisonment for not more than twenty years, or both....
16 posted on 12/12/2003 8:27:30 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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