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Conservatives are now the "Blacks" of the Republican Party
vanity ^ | 12/17/03 | Destro

Posted on 12/11/2003 10:35:18 AM PST by Destro

In a discussion on this thread Tom Ridge's Immigration Remarks Draw Fire a post regarding the conservative angst about the recent campaign finance reform that Bush signed into law and that the Supreme Court approved (and the approval was praised by the White House), on the heals of the Medicare entitlement enacted under a Republican controlled government the following was posted:

I'm hearing Rush now. He claims the republicans have ONLY one party to go to. He has put this issue squarely on the problem. We need to vote outside of this corrupt party apparatus.

12 posted on 12/11/2003 12:39:52 PM EST by Digger

I also heard this on Rush and my blood boiled. Rush said conservatives have no place else to go and thus will continue to vote as a block to the Republicans.....and then it hit me. That is exactly what we conservatives lament about Blacks and the Democratic party. Black Democrats who vote straight Democratic and are rewarded by being ignored.

In other words, Conservatives are now the "Blacks" of the Republican Party!!!

I urge the same solution to Republican conservatives that Black conservatives offer to Black Democrats. QUIT! Become independents and let the parties fight for our votes. If we can't take the GOP back we should leave the GOP.

I did not change. My party did. I thank God Ronald Reagan is unable to comprehend what is happening to the party he saved.


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To: af_vet_1981
Are you going to join him ?

Join him? To what? Your hip? If you two are siamese twins, I'm pretty sure that you're the left sided one.

161 posted on 12/11/2003 12:29:28 PM PST by Jim Cane
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To: Maelstrom
no doubt, but off topic.
Reagan switched parties due to disaffection with the way his former party was trending.
Was Reagan a traitor acc. to those here on this thread who have so glibly accused their fellow FReepers of so being for harboring an identical disaffection?
162 posted on 12/11/2003 12:29:49 PM PST by King Prout (...he took a face from the ancient gallery, then he... walked on down the hall....)
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To: Jim Cane
And the GOP is leaving conservatives for leftier fields.

Would that make them traitors, considering af_vet_1981 thinks that conservatives that leave the GOP are traitors.

163 posted on 12/11/2003 12:29:49 PM PST by looscnnn ("Live free or die; death is not the worst of evils" Gen. John Stark 1809)
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To: All
Please stop the personal attacks.
164 posted on 12/11/2003 12:32:16 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: looscnnn
Would that make them traitors, considering af_vet_1981 thinks that conservatives that leave the GOP are traitors.

You are lying. I don't think you are a conservative. I think you are masquerading as conservatives to influence the 2004 election so the party of Traitors (Democrats) can win. Protagoras has already admitted he is not a political conservative. Your agenda and trolling are obvious to genuine conservatives. Eight long years of HillarySpeak have innoculated us to your rhetoric.

165 posted on 12/11/2003 12:33:13 PM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: King Prout
Sorry, forgot about him. Where's my wet noodle, that's 50 lashes, right?
166 posted on 12/11/2003 12:34:39 PM PST by looscnnn ("Live free or die; death is not the worst of evils" Gen. John Stark 1809)
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To: looscnnn
no, just ten.
Boot got feminized under Clinton, remember?
167 posted on 12/11/2003 12:35:33 PM PST by King Prout (...he took a face from the ancient gallery, then he... walked on down the hall....)
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To: looscnnn
"Also, Clinton was reelected and there was nobody to "take votes" away from the Republicans."


Ummm, no. Clinton only got 49% of the vote in 1996, and Perot got 8.4% (ALL from conservatives---the Democrats who voted for Perot in 1992 "came home" to Clinton in 1996). Had every Perot vote from 1996 been cast for Bob Dole, Dole would have won with exactly 270 electoral votes.
168 posted on 12/11/2003 12:36:38 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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ozone?
169 posted on 12/11/2003 12:37:26 PM PST by King Prout (...he took a face from the ancient gallery, then he... walked on down the hall....)
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To: af_vet_1981
Your agenda and trolling are obvious to genuine conservatives.

What are the principles or stances that identify "genuine conservatives"?

170 posted on 12/11/2003 12:40:49 PM PST by Sloth ("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
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To: Maelstrom
Reagan was far too conservative to be considered a candidate today by the likes of the current crapheads in the RNC

Actually Reagan did something in his first term that Bush didn't, he raised taxes in 1982.

171 posted on 12/11/2003 12:41:53 PM PST by Dane
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To: af_vet_1981
You are just as much a psych as Dane. You spout BS and then when facts that counter the BS you spout are brought out, you resort to more BS name calling. Get a life.
172 posted on 12/11/2003 12:44:18 PM PST by looscnnn ("Live free or die; death is not the worst of evils" Gen. John Stark 1809)
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To: King Prout
Reagan switched parties due to disaffection with the way his former party was trending. Was Reagan a traitor acc. to those here on this thread who have so glibly accused their fellow FReepers of so being for harboring an identical disaffection?

Excellent and legitimate question.

173 posted on 12/11/2003 12:44:45 PM PST by KantianBurke (Don't Tread on Me)
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To: AuH2ORepublican
Sorry, forgot Perot tried again.
174 posted on 12/11/2003 12:45:55 PM PST by looscnnn ("Live free or die; death is not the worst of evils" Gen. John Stark 1809)
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To: af_vet_1981
I meant psychic.
175 posted on 12/11/2003 12:46:32 PM PST by looscnnn ("Live free or die; death is not the worst of evils" Gen. John Stark 1809)
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To: looscnnn
You are just as much a psych as Dane. You spout BS and then when facts that counter the BS you spout are brought out, you resort to more BS name calling. Get a life

Uh where on this thread have I called you a name?

176 posted on 12/11/2003 12:47:46 PM PST by Dane
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To: King Prout
Thanks for correcting the count. I don't know if I could have handled the other 40.
177 posted on 12/11/2003 12:48:31 PM PST by looscnnn ("Live free or die; death is not the worst of evils" Gen. John Stark 1809)
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To: Dane
I did not say that you were calling names, just that you were psychic. How else can you tell how a person voted back in '92 & '96.
178 posted on 12/11/2003 12:50:37 PM PST by looscnnn ("Live free or die; death is not the worst of evils" Gen. John Stark 1809)
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To: looscnnn
I did not say that you were calling names, just that you were psychic. How else can you tell how a person voted back in '92 & '96.

By the rhetoric(not a dimes worth of difference, yada, yada, yada)

179 posted on 12/11/2003 12:53:27 PM PST by Dane
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To: looscnnn
"I am called looscnnn for a reason, no one tells me how to think, vote or anything else." - Now thats a quote I can identify with.

Isn't loosecannon analogous to 'Independant Conservative'?

I used to be a loose cannon too but I got married, had 3 kids and grew up. (Not that there's anything wrong with being a loose cannon it was just easier to be that way when I was single LOL!)
180 posted on 12/11/2003 12:54:25 PM PST by AppauledAtAppeasementConservat (An educated fool, in the end, is still a fool.)
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