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Call the WHite HOuse to Thank Bush for CFR!!!
Posted on 12/10/2003 1:09:18 PM PST by Maceman
For what good it will do, I just called the White House switchboard (202-456-1111) and conveyed my extreme outrage at Bush for not vetoing CFR when he had the chance.
I hope you all will do the same.
BTW, the operator told me "you are not alone."
Let's shut down the WH switchboard with howls of protest.
If I wasn't still even more terrified of the Democrats than I am of the Republicans (albeit barely at this point), I would never support Bush in '04 after this.
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To: NittanyLion
Then what about limits placed on contributions to candidates? These laws have been on the books for years. Why don't these laws "limit free speech"?
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posted on
12/10/2003 3:58:56 PM PST
by
My2Cents
("Well....there you go again...")
To: Veracruz
I remember back in the early 70's, I was a young NCO in the Army, stationed in Jackson, MS at the "induction center".
I lived next door to a very nice man in his 60's...election time and I asked his advice on who he thought would be the best for vote for.
His reply..."son, i learned a long time ago not to try and vote for the one that will do the most good...always go for the one you think will do the least harm." for some reason I have never forgotten that sage advice.
To: jwalsh07
The more I read comments like yours, the more I think you people are cracked.
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posted on
12/10/2003 3:59:25 PM PST
by
My2Cents
("Well....there you go again...")
To: My2Cents
The Constitution you seem to think this law does not violate cannot be the same Constitution which I have sworn to uphold.
To: My2Cents
Then what about limits placed on contributions to candidates? These laws have been on the books for years. Why don't these laws "limit free speech"? What makes you think they don't? A constitutional system would allow unlimited donations and full and immediate disclosure of donors.
To: Maceman
Bravo! Great rant and rave!
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posted on
12/10/2003 4:02:19 PM PST
by
verity
To: aristeides
Put that way, no. In which case the best thing to do is to get people on the courts who respect the Constitution in its original intent. You think that will happen if Hillary or Howard Dean become President? Or if people throw their votes away on the Constitution Party? Politics is messy business, in case you hadn't noticed, and the ironic thing is that the best way to avoid such decisions in the short-term future is to re-elect GW Bush, and send more Republicans to the US Senate.
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posted on
12/10/2003 4:02:41 PM PST
by
My2Cents
("Well....there you go again...")
To: My2Cents
Frankly, I think the argument that the CFR "sacrifices" the Constitution is hooey. Please make your case.
- In todays media environment, the only way to get a message out is to buy advertising.
- Advertising requires money.
- This bill specifically denies organized efforts using donated money to get a political message out 60 days prior to an ellection.
- Ergo, the free speech of those people who have organized to get a message out -- about political issues -- is specifically denied.
The fact you cannot see this is a complete abrogation of the 1st Amendment is staggering.
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posted on
12/10/2003 4:02:49 PM PST
by
Lazamataz
(Hillary Clinton is a CLINQUANT without the LINQA.)
To: My2Cents
You can go and read my post #69 as well. You say the CFR is unconstitutional. I don't think it is. I have Congress, the President, and the Supreme Court on my side. Who do you have?No you're side is populated by 189 democrats and 40 RINOS in the house and a similar split in the senate, Justice Stevens, Justice Ginsberg, Justice Breyer, Justice Souter and that lunatic Justic O'Connor.
Our side is polulated by the overwhelming majority of Republicans in the House and Senate and Justice Rehnquist, Justice Thomas, Justice Scalia and Justice Kennedy.
Now you decide who is more apt to come down with fleas.
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posted on
12/10/2003 4:02:58 PM PST
by
jwalsh07
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To: Lazamataz
Well stated.
To: My2Cents
The more I read comments like yours, the more I think you people are cracked.If you are any indication My2Cents, I prefer the company of the cracked, the extremists and even the libertarians who I sometimes take issue with.:-}
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posted on
12/10/2003 4:05:01 PM PST
by
jwalsh07
To: Veracruz
So support Bush and get the judges passed that he wants to stop the erosion in the courts. Blame McClain instead of Bush! Geez we are starting to sound like the RATS -- it's all Bush's fault! Everything is Bush's fault. So, cut off your nose to spite your face. Yes, take great satisfaction in the fact that you will likely help Hillary get the Presidency. I hope you are proud of yourself for sticking up for the Constitution that she will use to turn American into a Communist/Fascist country. Just great.
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To: aristeides; Travis McGee; Squantos; harpseal; Southack
I believe even the majority of the Supreme Court today admitted they were limiting freedom of speech. They thought that was justified by the higher good of avoiding corruption and even the appearance of corruptionSame justification they will use to gut the Second Amendment. "We know we are violating the Second Amendment, but we are justified by the higher good of protecting children Yadda Yadda Yadda."
The United States really has no purpose any more.
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posted on
12/10/2003 4:06:47 PM PST
by
Lazamataz
(Hillary Clinton is a CLINQUANT without the LINQA.)
To: Lazamataz
I don't blame you. I feel many will soon reach that same conclusion.
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posted on
12/10/2003 4:06:50 PM PST
by
StoneColdGOP
(McClintock - In Your Heart, You Know He's Right)
To: BushisTheMan
Blame McClain instead of Bush! I love Die Hard.
To: NittanyLion; PhiKapMom; Tamsey; onyx; doodlelady; afraidfortherepublic; Wolfstar; ...
Then you're bitching about an issue which is at least a quarter century old. I fail to see how an issue that been an "abomination" to the Constitution for 25 years (campaign finance laws) generates such a hissy fit today. Hey, the courts have been eroding the Constitution for over 40 years at least. When I hear people saying they're going to refuse to vote for the one candidate next year who could actually start to reverse this trend on the courts simply because of this one bill, which IMHO is small beans in the scheme of all the other outrages the courts have done over the last four decades, I'm perplexed.
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posted on
12/10/2003 4:07:46 PM PST
by
My2Cents
("Well....there you go again...")
Comment #99 Removed by Moderator
To: Maceman
I'm calling tomorrow. I called my Congressman(who voted right) already about the judges.
Bush heard from me once already on this. Well, he will again.
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posted on
12/10/2003 4:09:17 PM PST
by
Dan from Michigan
("if you wanna run cool, you got to run, on heavy heavy fuel" - Dire Straits)
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