182 bears killed in first two days of N.J. hunt

NJ.com ^

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TRENTON, N.J. (AP)

[warchild9]

So has slavery existed for millenia, and abuse of women and children, bigotry, Hillary Clinton-worship and a hundred other evils. Eventually, we'll grow out of them all.

[warchild9]

All right, maybe not Hillary Clinton worship, but god, I hate that woman!

[CollegeRepublican]

That is not exactly what I was implying. Yeah, the love of the nature is nice and all. When I go hunting I am looking for the biggest fattest doe or buck to harvest for FOOD.

I disagree with you that most hunters kill for the fun of it. Here in Maryland our hunting seasons are long and we have alot of deer. However, about 50% of the deer killed are killed on opening day of the rifle season. It is a one weekend-a-year event for a large majority of hunters. They want to get their one or two deer for the winter because they like the venison and then they stop. If it is so fun, why do they stop when they could hunt from September through February and stack up as many deer as they want? There is nothing stopping them from killing as many as they want.

Hunting is not sick. Killing a deer for its antlers, sawing off the antlers, and leaving the body is sick. Spotlighting deer at night is sick. Breaking the law to kill animals is sick and you are a poacher. But the lawful taking of game and using that resource is not sick.

[warchild9]

Refer: name-calling

Very manly

[warchild9]

Actually, I'd respect any man who'd take on a mad bear with a club. There's no cowardness in that. Stupidity, yes, but no cowardness.

[agrace]

I have no problem with going to the supermarket, and I wasn't trying to draw parallels between hunting and butchering. That wasn't my question at all.

You said that remote dwellers have no choice and must hunt for their supper. I then asked, what about those who hunt for their supper yet DO have a choice, ie access to the supermarket.

And while I'm not yet sure that you directly answered my question, I do believe I have gleaned from your posts on this thread that YES, it is OK to hunt for consumption, just as long as NO FUN is had.

Is that correct?

[wjcsux]

Here is the website you are looking for http://www.peta.org. You stumbled on ours by mistake.

[Bluntpoint]

Some animals just refuse to get help for themselves. If they end up in some hillbilly's freezer that is their fault.

I blame Jimmy Carter for emptying all the "nut" houses in the 70s.

[warchild9]

I agree, all those things you mentioned in your last paragraph are signs of pathology, or cowardness. There's a fine line between killing for fun and gathering food, and rationally separating the two is impossible for some people (please note the responses I get on these threads).
Still, it's fun to hunt and kill, and to feel inflated because one brought home the bacon.

[dsmatuska]

That commercial that shows that guy kicking that grizzley in the store so he can take that fish away is hilarious. How did they train that bear to do that? (Look! It's an eagle!)

[1Old Pro]

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[dsmatuska]

That commercial that shows that guy kicking that grizzley in the store so he can take that fish away is hilarious. Now that took guts. How did they train that bear to do that? (Look! It's an eagle!)

[shotgun]

What happens when bears hunt humans:

[oyez]

I bet you made quite a dent in the ATM population. I was at a bank where somebody shot up theirs the night before. Sick! Sick, I tell ya'.

[warchild9]

It's simple: hunting, for someone in the suburbs, is recreational, and that's sick. I've spent months in the Applachians (as an example), and we killed for our suppers, out of necessity.
It's the killing, not the consumption of meat.
It's the killing.

[VeniVidiVici]

Goodbye to all of them!

We bearly knew thee.

[CollegeRepublican]

Still, it's fun to hunt and kill, and to feel inflated because one brought home the bacon.

I might grant you that last part. Sure it feels good to say, "I got one last weekend." But why is that sick? Is it?

[Sam Cree]

No claims for rationality.

I love walking accross fields, and through woods in the cold, under the starry sky with my rifle, black powder or centerfire. I love the scouting before the hunt. And I even love the sitting still in the freezing cold for hours, waiting for a shot. And I find the heart pounding intense awareness of the actual kill of a deer indescribable. The whole thing fulfills something within me on a very primitive and real level. I find a certain spirituality in it all. I realize that I am finding spirituality in the actual act of killing. However, I believe that is because, at a level not very much deeper than the veneer of "civilization," man is a predator. That's why I think many hunt because of who they are, not to prove they are something else.

My happiness and and excitement when I am successful does not prevent me from also feeling regret and sadness.

Yet I am not a vegetarian, so, to me, who both causes and witnesses the death of the animal which I will eat, I am surely as deserving of eating it as is the person who buys meat already packaged at a market.

[warchild9]

Someone here last year scooped one up with a backhoe, and made a run for it with a city cop watching. Very pathetic.

[warchild9]

I fear nothing and no one in the forest but an angry bear. I stumbled across a cub once in the Smokey Mountains, without seeing momma bear, and 'bout doodooed my pants. There is NOTHING more dangerous than that situation. Obviously, I made it home okay.