1 posted on
12/09/2003 11:54:07 AM PST by
presidio9
To: presidio9
Oustanding Post! Thanks!
3 posted on
12/09/2003 11:59:11 AM PST by
BSunday
(I'm not the bad guy. Hillary is.)
To: presidio9
Jesus did not say "I'm OK, you're OK" or "Do your own thing" or elevate "choice" above all other considerations. He said "Take up your cross and follow me." That's a call for personal responsibility. Nothing could be more alien to the modern liberal.
4 posted on
12/09/2003 12:02:24 PM PST by
Argus
((Ninety-nine and forty-four one-hundredths percent Pure Reactionary))
To: presidio9
I've had libs try to tell me Jesus was a liberal. When I ask them what characteristics He had or what teachings He espoused that were liberal, they usually can't think of a thing.
If they answer at all it's usually, "He was in favor of helping the poor." My response to that is, "He was in favor of YOU helping the poor, not in favor of you taking money out of other people's wallets to help the poor."
They have no counter argument for that.
5 posted on
12/09/2003 12:06:08 PM PST by
MEGoody
To: presidio9
Whenever I hear a leftist make this claim, I ask for the chapter and verse wherein He espouses the coerced redistribution of wealth. Not surprisingly, I receive a lot of ad hominem slurs but never an answer.
To: presidio9
read later
To: presidio9
This is as well said as any I have ever read on this subject.
10 posted on
12/09/2003 12:10:33 PM PST by
chesley
To: presidio9
He would be neither Conservative or Liberal.
12 posted on
12/09/2003 12:12:45 PM PST by
theDentist
(Liberals can sugarcoat sh** all they want. I'm not biting.)
To: presidio9
It's spooky that you posted this today, because just yesterday I got into an argument with a fairly agnostic friend of mine who said that Jesus would have wanted us to "turn the other cheek" and not attack Iraq.
20 posted on
12/09/2003 12:40:42 PM PST by
AuH2ORepublican
(Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
To: presidio9
Later read bump.
21 posted on
12/09/2003 12:48:46 PM PST by
agrace
To: presidio9
Jesus ranked tax collectors on a lower level than prostitutes.
22 posted on
12/09/2003 12:49:13 PM PST by
Capitalism2003
(Got principles? http://www.LP.org)
To: presidio9
There ain't no "WAS" about it. Jesus lives and rules to all eternity, and He is a radical of the kind I would be the first to crucify.
To: presidio9
Jesus was critical of religious authority in His time because their exagerrated attachment to the letter of the law actually worked against the underlying moral principles that the law is supposed to reflect. Jesus in no way was against morality, including sexual morality, but was if anything a more strenuous moralist than the authorities of his time. In fact, he called for individuals to go beyond mere acting out lustful thoughts to instead resist the thoughts themselves. He called for purity of heart. This is all very different from the modernist theologians of sexual license.
To: presidio9
Jesus wanted people to care for the needy not the government.
Democrats want the government to do that but tax someone else and Republicans say 'poor happens' so don't tax me.
32 posted on
12/09/2003 1:22:46 PM PST by
ex-snook
(Americans need Balanced Trade - we buy from you, you buy from us. No free rides.)
To: presidio9
Bump for later.
39 posted on
12/09/2003 3:24:20 PM PST by
Jotmo
("Voon", said the mattress.)
To: presidio9
I think about as political as Jesus ever got was when he said "Give unto Caesar that which is Caesar's, and give unto God that which is God's."
43 posted on
12/09/2003 3:48:27 PM PST by
squidly
To: presidio9
...Jesus was a liberal,... most of the people who embrace this idea dont really believe that Jesus is divine.Bingo!
They want to "use" Him, not worship Him.
49 posted on
12/09/2003 4:40:59 PM PST by
Gritty
("Christianity has been a proponent, not an opponent, of reason and tolerance"-Chuck Colson)
To: presidio9
I have a brother-in-law that I love to pieces, but sometimes he'll try to say anything to win an argument. Once he castigated me for wanting to own a gun - he couldn't believe that I worship Jesus "who was a pacifist" (his words!) and yet wish to own a gun.
He has never read the Bible - someone just told him that Jesus was a "pacifist" and he swallowed it.
He could not explain the "pacifist" act of Jesus in making a whip out of cords and driving the money changers from the Temple.
Jesus constructed a weapon. Jesus hit people. This is not concealed - it's right there in black and white.
I guess this is just my roundabout way of finally getting to this point - I have noticed that most of the people who opine on Jesus's character, or how he would handle things today, are the folks that are least likely to have read his life story.
50 posted on
12/09/2003 5:07:01 PM PST by
mrs. a
To: presidio9
Bump and thanks for the post.
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