Posted on 12/08/2003 1:44:37 PM PST by RWR8189
Just heard it on Fox News
Here is a link to their dreadful thread
Chris Matthews actually said, when commenting on this news today, that Gore "nobly accepted" the Supreme Court decision back in 2000.
Poor Chris, always swayed by pretty words. He was very taken with Gore's concession speech (which I will grant was well written and delivered), but he ignores Gore's subsequent words and behavior, which have NOT been noble. More like a big sulk.
Indirectly they both have criticized Dean's position on Iraq, if not Dean himself. But they don't care, for all the reasons you detailed, they have seen to it that no potentially electable candidate could build the support necessary to actually win the nomination. Gore endorsing Dean probably has both of the Clinton's laughing at how well things are working out for them and their 2008 plan.
The Clinton, McAuliffe, Clark (centrist) camp could have made a smokey back room deal with the Dean, Gore (looney left) camp. Even though the Clintons don't want Dean to win over Bush (because it kills Hillary's 2008 run), they are willing to play ball for some concessions.
They all agree to unite behind Dean now to avoid the bruising primaries, as you (William McKinley) said. But that doesn't mean they are all permanently in league, just that they cut a deal. Once the dust settles (Dean loses), they will be at each other's throats again (over control of the DNC).
You're assuming that the primaries and caucuses are mere formalities at this point. They're not. The only places where Dean is really getting blowout numbers is in New Hampshire. He's only in first within the margin of error in Iowa. Nationwide he's only getting 15% support and is tied with The Weasel.
ANYTHING can still happen in this clusterf*ck (®John Kerry). Gephardt still stands an excellent chance of winning Iowa. Any sort of weirdness could happen in South Carolina. Dean could simply peak too early (it's over two months before the first primary). Remember: In 2002, a guy named Bill Clinton barely even registered in Iowa, getting only 3%, and lost big time in New Hampshire to that powerhouse Paul Tsongas. Only after those humiliating defeats did The War Room get their act together and start racking up wins in state after state.
Those other candidates still want to win, especially Lieberman, Gephardt, Clark and Kerry. They're not going to roll over for Dean. They're going to fight, and fight mean.
I was just on Atrios' blog reading the comments to this story. They all have the election won and Dean as president. I was banned as they were starting to pick the cabinet. It won't let me back into comments to even read them so maybe someone can go over there and give us their "dream cabinet".
1980
85,496,851 Total Votes. 52.6% of Eligible Voters.
| Candidate | Party | Popular Vote | Electoral College | Percent |
| Ronald Reagan (CA) George Bush (TX) |
Republican | 43,901,812 | 489 | 50.8% |
| Jimmy Carter (GA) Walter Mondale (MN) |
Democrat | 35,483,820 | 49 | 41.0% |
| John Anderson (IL) | Independent | 5,719,437 | 0 | 6.6% |
| Ed Clark (CA) | Libertarian | 921,299 | 0 | 1.1% |
National Conventions
Republican: Detroit, MI 7/14/80
Democrat: New York, NY 8/11/80
Ronald Reagan (R): 489 Jimmy Carter (D): 49
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1984
"It's morning again in America"
92,641,042 Total Votes. 53.1% of Eligible Voters.
| Candidate | Party | Popular Vote | Electoral College | Percent |
| Ronald Reagan (CA) George Bush (TX) |
Republican | 54,455,000 | 525 | |
| Walter Mondale (MN) Geraldine Ferraro (NY) |
Democrat | 37,577,000 | 13 | 40.5% |
| David Berland (CA) | Libertarian | 228,314 | 0 | |
| Lyndon LaRouche (VA) | Independent | 78,807 | 0 |
National Conventions
Republican: Dallas, TX 8/20/84
Democrat: San Francisco, CA 7/16/84
Ronald Reagan (R): 525 Walter Mondale (D): 13
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1988
"Read My Lips, No New Taxes"
TOTAL: 91,594,136 Total Votes. 50.1% of Eligible Voters.
| Candidate | Party | Popular Vote | Electoral College | Percent |
| George H.W. Bush (TX) James Danforth Quayle (IN) |
Republican | 426 | ||
| Michael Dukakis (MA) Lloyd Bentson (MN) |
Democrat | 111 | ||
| Lloyd Bentson (MN)** Michael Dukakis (MA) |
Democrat | 1 | ||
| Ron Paul (TX) | Libertarian | 431,616 | 0 | |
| Lenore Fulani (NY) | New Alliance | 217,200 | 0 | |
| David Duke (LA) | Populist | 46,910 | 0 | |
| Eugene McCarthy (MN) | Consumer | 30,903 | 0 |
**One elector from West Virginia voted for Lloyd Bentsen for President and Michael Dukakis for Vice President.
National Conventions:
Republican: New Orleans, LA 08/15/1988
Democrat: Atlanta, GA 07/18/1988
George Bush (R): 426 Michael Dukakis (D): 111 Lloyd Bentson (D): 1
HOME
Hillary will wellstone Dean sometime in October 2004.
If Hillary endorses Dean before Iowa, I'll be convinced that he really was their guy all along. Remember, his big issue was originally going to be health care, with a plan which was very much similar to Hillarycare.
Time for some people to look up "myopic" in the dictionary. I don't see where this endorsement adds much of anything to Dean's campaign, other than helping shore up Dean's appeal with the very people already guaranteed to vote for Dean in the primaries anyway: The angry, bitter, mean, vicious left.
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