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Cruel Joke or Medical Anomaly?
UM List ^ | Tim Wilkins

Posted on 12/05/2003 5:50:56 AM PST by xzins

Cruel Joke or Medical Anomaly? Proponents of same-sex "marriage" owe us an answer

by Tim Wilkins

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The Physiology of Mankind

"Love and marriage, love and marriage, go together like a horse and carriage. This I tell ya, brother, you can't have one without the other." Neither can you have a marrriage without a man and a woman, unless you’re the Massacheutts Supreme Court–to whom I ask the following question.

Why is one hundred percent of the homosexual population physiologically heterosexual?

When I asked that question before a group of university students, one said the question contained a presumption–that homosexuals were physiologically heterosexual. I am always open to differing views, yet he offered no explanation. In postmodernism one need not waste syllables buttressing one’s views—verbalizing a belief automatically makes it factual. Hubert Humphrey said, "The right to be heard does not automatically include the right to be taken seriously." The student reminded me of a man who, on another occasion, steadfastly disagreed when I said that at conception the man determines the sex of the child. "Every man has a right to his own opinion, but he does not have a right to his own set of facts."

My statement regarding human physiology is neither sexist nor politically motivated. It is a fact.

Look at this statement from two perspectives—first, a theological perspective and second, a medical perspective.

If in fact God creates some people as homosexuals, we must conclude that God has played a cruel joke on them. He has engineered their minds and emotions for attraction to the same-sex and yet created their physiology to be in direct opposition to that attraction. Such an act would be malicious. Only a sadistic god would conceive and conduct such a horrific deed.

Look at the statement from a medical perspective! If homosexuality is a naturally occurring phenomenon—a legitimate alternative to Mankind’s expression of sexuality, we would have to conclude that homosexuals bear severe physiological anomalies.

I am aware the previous conclusion may infuriate some; few things anger people more than uttering a logical thought. Truth has always angered people—which is why some wise sage cautioned, "Tell the truth and run!"

But alas I do not believe the conclusion because I do not believe homosexuality to be moral.

If for no other reason, homosexuality is illegitimate in that it is anatomically unsuitable.

The Ingenuity of the Physical Body

Regardless from where you believe Mankind originated, we must agree that the human body is the work of a genius. How do we account for tear ducts that automatically flush the eye when a microscopic grain of sand invades them? Who can fathom how an arm or leg produces chill bumps, which in turn raises the hairs on those limbs in order to reduce the amount of body heat being expended by a cold wind?

These mysteries of the human body include libido. When sexually aroused, the woman’s body changes through a series of preparations. Her vagina lengthens for a distinct reason. Her body, equipped with Bartholin’s gland, produces lubrication for a distinct reason. More intricate than any scientific invention ever conceived or constructed, the outer third of her vagina swells with blood for a distinct reason. The Psalmist was correct--we are "fearfully and wonderfully made." (Psalm 139:14)

But these incredible workings lead us to another question which refuses to be ignored--why would such physiological changes occur in homosexual women when the changes do nothing to assist sexual interaction?

One cannot simply dismiss the question as irrelevant. If God makes no mistakes, and He does not, what accounts for this dichotomy among homosexuals? If homosexuality is "natural" why the inappropriate and unnecessary body changes?

No legitimate answer exists. God desires each of us to become personally what He has created us to be physiologically, biologically and anatomically.

The Universality of Sin

The answer to why homosexuality exists is sin—a universal condition unconfined to homosexuals; one hundred percent of the world’s population are sinners. "…for all have sinned and come short of God’s glory." (Romans 3:23)

And the answer to sin is Jesus Christ who, by the way, performed His first miracle during the marriage of a man and a woman.

The proponents of homosexual "marriage" appear to have all the answers. What say ye? Is this phenomenon a cruel joke or a medical anomaly?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: form; function; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; physiology; prisoners
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To: Theo
I believe some people can be born with psychological defects that leave them with homosexual desires.

I *also* believe that children can become "homosexual" through "nurture," just as someone can get a physical defect through a car accident.

I can only agree with the second half of your thoughts. It has been proven time and again (actor Anthony Perkins comes to mind) that homosexual behavior can be overcome.

21 posted on 12/05/2003 6:41:19 AM PST by fml ( You can twist perception, reality won't budge. -RUSH)
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To: xzins
Great "talking point"...

100% of homosexuals have the physiology of a heterosexual.


22 posted on 12/05/2003 6:44:44 AM PST by vannrox (The Preamble to the Bill of Rights - without it, our Bill of Rights is meaningless!)
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To: adam_az
"What's the patent number for his device to measure God"

patent no; 000000001 TRUTH
23 posted on 12/05/2003 6:49:07 AM PST by chuckwalla
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To: xzins
Cruel joke it is, then!
24 posted on 12/05/2003 6:53:27 AM PST by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: xzins
The Supreme Court of Massachussets implicitly affirmed the 100 percent physiological heterosexuality rule (well, maybe 99.9 percent, allowing for the extremely rare natural hermaphrodite) when it redefined marriage as a union of any sex, but of only two people.

This binary distinction has its roots in the heterosexual nature of humankind. Any other distinction is arbitrary and contrary to natural law.

25 posted on 12/05/2003 6:57:43 AM PST by Kevin Curry
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To: billbears
Why is one hundred percent of the homosexual population physiologically heterosexual?

Because they've been discriminated against!!!! </blatant sarcasm>

26 posted on 12/05/2003 6:59:37 AM PST by 4CJ ('Scots vie 4 tavern juices' - anagram by paulklenk, 22 Nov 2003)
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To: moondoggie
The APA was taken over by the homosexuals that were once seeking help. Now it basically a queer organization.
27 posted on 12/05/2003 7:02:37 AM PST by Khepera (Do not remove by penalty of law!)
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To: xzins
I think his point is that the body's design is irrefutable argument than all are made to be heterosexual.

This is especially compelling if one adopts a theistic perspective.


Unfortunately, the theistic viewpoint requires unprovable beleif, the same standard that the author criticizes in his strawman opponent.

"Every man has a right to his own opinion, but he does not have a right to his own set of facts."

Show the proof that a god exists. What device can measure and detect it? What other non-measurable things do you "believe" in? Zeus? Allah?
28 posted on 12/05/2003 7:05:27 AM PST by adam_az (l)
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To: adam_az
A belief in theism isn't required to enable a thinking man to come to the conclusion that homosexuality is a willing perversion of the physiologically heterosexual (binary) nature of humankind. Simple common sense is more than sufficient.
29 posted on 12/05/2003 7:08:50 AM PST by Kevin Curry
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To: adam_az
We both know that the arguments for or against God are unprovable by you or me. In fact, they don't enter the realm of fact but of opinion.

However, the facts of which he speaks are the physiological facts of the human body.

It is a fact that 100% of homosexuals have heterosexual equipment. It is a fact that the physiological responses of homosexuals are actually the responses of heterosexual design.
30 posted on 12/05/2003 7:10:08 AM PST by xzins (Proud to be Army!)
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To: chuckwalla
OK, how about this.

1) Jesus is King.

2) Zeus is King.

3) Bill Clinton is the Second Coming of the Messiah.

Which of these statements is true?

What proof can you present that one statement is true, and the others are false?

None, thats what proof.

Gravity is provable truth. The properties of iron are provable truth. God is not provable, and is entirely based on faith.

The author of this paper rebuts himself, when he says "verbalizing a belief automatically makes it factual," by then going into a THEOLOGICAL PERSPECTIVE, something inherently unprovable.

Fact and Truth have no place in theology, because theology at least so far has not been proven using the scientific method, which is the litmus test for "fact."

Theology is Faith and Beleif, not fact.

31 posted on 12/05/2003 7:11:56 AM PST by adam_az (l)
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To: adam_az
"Every man has a right to his own opinion, but he does not have a right to his own set of facts."

To get to the crude but overwhelmingly compelling clinical point: penises and vaginas are simple facts. Like the simple fact of gravity, you must deal with them as they are. You are not free to arbitrarily redefine them to fit your arbitrary, liberal, perversion accomodating opinion.

32 posted on 12/05/2003 7:13:36 AM PST by Kevin Curry
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To: xzins
Yes, those things are true.

The theological perspective is irrelevent.

Have you ever used a device for a purpose other than what it was "intended?" Ever use a flathead screwdriver as a chisel or lever? But that's not what it was designed for! Unnatural! Sinner! Has your wife or significant other ever performed an act of oral or manual sex on you? Unnatural! That's not what the parts were designed for! And if so, SO WHAT? What differentiates humans is our ability to press the tools available into service to suit our purpose. The unnaturality argument doesn't stand up. Especially considering tha being unable to prove that god exists, you can't prove that mans body was "designed" to do anything in particular.

Homosexual practices of promiscuity and poo-play are unsanitary, and homosexuals tend to die much earlier than their hetero counterparts because of it. God doesn't have a damn thing do do with it.

33 posted on 12/05/2003 7:18:30 AM PST by adam_az (l)
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To: Kevin Curry
Like the simple fact of gravity, you must deal with them as they are. You are not free to arbitrarily redefine them to fit your arbitrary, liberal, perversion accomodating opinion.

My statements are not arbitrary or perverted, they are observations from a strictly biological perspective. Ever put your little wee-wee into your wife or girlfriends mouth or hand? Why does it matter what genitalia is attached to the person whose mouth or hand it's in? How about your own hand? It's attached to a man, you must be one of them there homosexuals, quick get the rope!

For that matter, please explain what I've arbitrarily defined without bringing out idiotic arguments like "OMG ANYONE WHO SEES THINGS FROM A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE THAN ME MUST BE A LIBURL!!!!!!!!!" Penises and vaginas are facts, yes, but people have found that both organs can be utilized outside the context of producing offspring. Outside of being able to prove that a god exists who wants you to be able to act a certain way (that's called FAITH not FACT) how can you make a statement that it's "unnatural" to use them differently? Ever open a bottle with something other than a bottle cap opener?
34 posted on 12/05/2003 7:25:12 AM PST by adam_az
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To: Kevin Curry
A belief in theism isn't required to enable a thinking man to come to the conclusion that homosexuality is a willing perversion of the physiologically heterosexual (binary) nature of humankind. Simple common sense is more than sufficient.

The binary scheme is required for reproduction of the species. Period. If it's so simple, please explain the logical steps which show that man should only do things which are necessary for the reproduction and continuation of the species, and nothing else? How many things do you do, strictly for your own pleasure, that have nothing to do with that lofty purpose? Why are they any less a perversion of your purpose here on earth?
35 posted on 12/05/2003 7:30:05 AM PST by adam_az
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To: xzins
Yep - plain and simple, it's a plumbing issue...
36 posted on 12/05/2003 7:32:21 AM PST by ErnBatavia (Taglineus Interruptus)
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To: xzins; Dataman; Caleb1411
Very thoughtful, well-written. The sad thing is there are FReepers who will be threatened by it.

Oops, I already see there are!

Dan
Biblical Christianity message board

37 posted on 12/05/2003 7:32:28 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: mtbopfuyn
God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.

That's a very clever statement, but here's the burden of proof on you: 1) Prove god existed, 2) Prove he created Adam and Eve. Hint: A book's say-so isn't empiric proof.
38 posted on 12/05/2003 7:33:19 AM PST by adam_az
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To: gobucks
What a COMPELLING point - and purely squared conclusion.

While it's certainly compelling, I fear that it's far too obvious a point for those whose wishes point the other direction. It seems that our capacity for willful blindness increases in direct proportion to the obviousness of the point in question.

Why else would we see this never-ending (and yet-to-be-successful) search for the "gay gene," which would "prove" that homosexuality is "normal," sort of like having blue eyes, when the physiology is there for all to see?

I was also surprised to see that the author did not bring in the old question of "why do bad things happen to good people?" From his perspective, homosexuality would certainly fall into that class of conditions.

Finally, while it may not have fit too well with the rest of his point, he could have added in the observable fact that the "gay rights" movement moves in lockstep with that group of activists who want more help dealing with the medical consequences of homosexual activity -- which come as a direct consequence of violating the physiological imperatives the author so rightly points out.

39 posted on 12/05/2003 7:33:39 AM PST by r9etb
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To: adam_az
Prove God does NOT exist.
40 posted on 12/05/2003 7:35:42 AM PST by goodnesswins (A man who will fight for nothing, will NEVER be free.)
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