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Dean: I'd 'Break Up' Fox News
NewsMax.com ^ | 12/02/03 | Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff

Posted on 12/02/2003 10:06:24 AM PST by kattracks

Democratic presidential front-runner Howard Dean pledged Monday night to "break up" the Fox News Channel along with other conservative news outlets owned by media baron Rupert Murdoch.

"Eleven companies in this country control 90 percent of what ordinary people are able to read and watch on their television," the ex-Vermont governor complained to MSNBC's Chris Matthews, who then asked the candidate point-blank:

"Would you break up Fox? ... Rupert Murdoch has 'The Weekly Standard.' It has got a lot of other interests. It has got the New York Post. Would you break it up?"

Dean shot back, "On ideological grounds, absolutely yes."

A moment later the "Hardball" host pressed: "Seriously. As a public policy, would you bring industrial policy to bear and break up these conglomerations of power?"

At that point Dean seemed to sense that he had gone too far and began to equivocate, saying, "I don't want to answer whether I would break up Fox or not."

The leading Democrat then explained, "What I'm going to do is appoint people to the FCC that believe democracy depends on getting information from all portions of the political spectrum, not just one."



TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; dean; deanoweirdo; foxnews; howarddean
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To: BureaucratusMaximus
c'mon now ... don't be shy...say what's really on your mind!!!!! ROFLMAO
101 posted on 12/02/2003 11:49:41 AM PST by cajun-jack
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To: kattracks
bump
102 posted on 12/02/2003 11:50:29 AM PST by lowbridge (As God as my witness, I thought turkeys could fly. -Mr. Carlson, WKRP in Cincinnati)
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To: Nonstatist
Remember, the first and main agitation against the FCC ruling was funded by MOVE ON org., the notorious extreemist left wing political group that propped for Clinton during Impeachment. You trust their credentials as for "the little people"?

Their agenda is obviously different than mine, but that doesn't make them wrong on the issue. When I was telling people that Clinton should be thrown out of office for his crimes, I had a few people tell me that Clinton should be thrown out of office for betraying the Marxist wing of the liberal establishment in this country after 1994. We had different reasons, but on that issue we agreed that the bastard should have been thrown out of office.

103 posted on 12/02/2003 11:53:20 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("To freedom, Alberta, horses . . . and women!")
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To: kattracks
Some please tell me that the following are all safe:

SeeBS-Viacom-Simon&Schuester-Viacom Radio-Mtv-Vh1-Nick-TvLand-Spike-Showtime...

AOL-Time-Life-Warner-Turner-CNN (Warner, that friendly little cable company that wouldn't let Fox News on their cable boxes despite customer requests)

MS-NBC...

ABCDisney...

What major radio stations Clear Channel doesn't own, Viacom does. CC gets a bum rap because they own concert hall contracts, concert promotion, and most importantly Rush Limbaugh's contract. When Clear Channel got Rush and purchased the locally owned Houston radio station 950 KPRC, they canned all of the local staff and prohibited "God talk" and discussion of bills before the state legislature. Clear Channel a conservative mouthpiece? Not hardly.

104 posted on 12/02/2003 12:01:10 PM PST by weegee
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To: Alberta's Child
Consider the case of a media conglomerate that owns both a radio station and a record label. If you have noticed recently that the playlist on your favorite radio station is becoming increasingly stale and repetitive, it's because the same conglomerate that owns the radio station also owns a record label and is using the radio station to provide exposure for its own records.

You'll need to outline all of these alleged ties. While payola was not illegal in the old days, it is only legal for a station to play recordings which they have a financial stake in if they disclose such ties.

This is why some labels have considered buying radio time to "host"/sponsor something like the MCA Country Hour.

Even artists like Chris Isaak think that they would be more likely to get commercial radio airplay if WB had a radio network like they have tv affiliates. Such disclosure would be well known (although I think that they would still be required to tell audiences that they are listening to a label owned station).

Funny thing is that ABC News can plug Disney films all day long on Good Morning America without disclosing their financial interest. Even the corner grocer can be bribed legally by Coke and Pepsi to get better shelf space.

The time to argue over corporate mergers (especially in media monopolies) was 10-20 years ago. The cat is out of the bag unless we want the government to smash up the monopolies (ALL of them) the way Ma Bell was broken up into the baby bells.

105 posted on 12/02/2003 12:08:10 PM PST by weegee
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To: Alberta's Child
In the last few weeks, I've started hearing ads on one FM music station for another FM music station that plays a different type of music.

In the Washington, DC, market, an all-news radio station has been swapping ads with a classical music station. As far as I know, they have different owners, but then again they aren't exactly competing for the same listeners at the same times. The ads recommend listening to the news station while commuting, and the music station in the office or house.

106 posted on 12/02/2003 12:08:56 PM PST by Steve0113
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To: kattracks
This guy is dangerous--to his own primary campaign. Somebody stop him before he commits another outrageous gaffe and loses the primaries.

Karl Rov must be gnashing his teeth.
107 posted on 12/02/2003 12:13:06 PM PST by wildbill
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To: Jim Cane
Excactly! If T.R. were still around, he'd be busting up the AOL-Time-Warner monopoly like an enraged bull moose with sledghammers for antlers. (he'd be extremely old, of course, but full of p*ss 'n vinigar, still)

And CNN and Time Magazine would be there calling him a senile old relic who probably said something politically incorrect 80 years ago...

108 posted on 12/02/2003 12:16:13 PM PST by weegee
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To: weegee
The cat is out of the bag unless we want the government to smash up the monopolies (ALL of them) the way Ma Bell was broken up into the baby bells.

But the Baby Bells are regrouping, whether on a merger (SBC: Southwestern Bell, Pacific Bell, Ameritech...; Verizon: Bell Atlantic-Nynex which joined with non-Bell GTE) or a joint venture (Cingular, trademark for mobile services by SBC and Bellsouth)

Very likely media conglomeration will be a reality in the future.

109 posted on 12/02/2003 12:31:07 PM PST by El Conservador ("No blood for oil!"... Then don't drive, you moron!!!)
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To: kattracks

Democratic presidential candidate Howard Dean laughs after seeing a student wearing a Bush-Cheney campaign T-shirt behind him during a taping of 'Hardball,' with host Chris Matthews, Monday, Dec. 1, 2003, at Harvard University's Institute of Politics in Cambridge, Mass. (AP Photo/Elise Amendola)
110 posted on 12/02/2003 12:34:59 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: kattracks
Just when you thought you'd truly heard it all...................a supposed front-running Presidential candidate.......that's, for those who forget, President of the United States that he's seeking here.........who actually said he would break up a news network based on the fact that he disagrees with their political ideaology.

Good Lord in Heaven.........................

In that case, Dean, guess it's ok for Bush to break up ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, PBS, New York Times, Washington Post, LA Times..................................................................

111 posted on 12/02/2003 12:39:10 PM PST by RightOnline
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To: kattracks
"Would you break up Fox? ... Rupert Murdoch has 'The Weekly Standard.' It has got a lot of other interests. It has got the New York Post. Would you break it up?"

Dean shot back, "On ideological grounds, absolutely yes."

Well lookee hear. A true fascist. How ironic is this. The First Amendment was designed to protect "political speech" above all, and this self-proclaimed defender of the first amendment seeks to limit political speech. OTOH, I'm sure he has no plans to limit obscenity, which the First Amendment was not meant to protect.

112 posted on 12/02/2003 12:39:19 PM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: miloklancy
And Dems realize there recent failures have had a lot to do with the influence of a conservative media outlets...

Their failure is their own arrogance and intolerance.

Arrogance:
>>If the Dems want to "counter" talk radio they are about ten years behind the eight ball. The talk radio industry is still growing but largely matured. They are arrogant to think that they will just jump in and start dominating the airwaves.
>>The Dems have had air superiority for so long, they were fat, dumb, lazy and arrogant to the growing tide of disgruntled conservatives who wanted a venue. They thought talk radio would be a shooting star and brushed it aside.
>>Their arrogance is such that they think it is the number of talk radio shows/stations that has caused them pain-when, in fact, it is the message that is resonating with the listeners and voters that is the sore in their side, which leads to the final point.

Intolerance
They can not have talk radio like Rush or Sean Hannity. The call screeners will filter out most conservative callers if not all. When one gets through, he will be shouted down by the liberal host, more than likely. Liberal talk radio will fail because liberalism does not tolerate dissenting views, no matter how founded the arguement is.

113 posted on 12/02/2003 12:39:57 PM PST by VRW Conspirator (Democrat party: The party of death and slavery.)
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To: kattracks
"Dean shot back, "On ideological grounds, absolutely yes."

This IS prior restraint and censorship of the worst kind. It was very candid and very foolish for Dean to admit that he would censor the press. Not even Clinton would admit that he did it, even after tongue lashing Sam Donaldson at the Whitehouse for asking a question "off script".
114 posted on 12/02/2003 12:44:20 PM PST by Spok
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To: demlosers
LOL--really...Keep talking Dean.
115 posted on 12/02/2003 1:19:59 PM PST by jonalvy44
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To: Spok
I think what Dean meant by his contradictory statements is that his decision to break up Fox News would be contingent on Fox's actions. For example if Fox were to endorse Dean for president, then he would reconsider it.

It's what Democrats do -- intimidation, subjugation and domination.
116 posted on 12/02/2003 1:28:43 PM PST by Dan Evans
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To: kattracks
The leading Democrat then explained, "What I'm going to do is appoint people to the FCC that believe democracy depends on getting information from all portions of the political spectrum, not just one."

Is this the guy that claims to be a "doctor"? I know doctors don't know everything, (even though they think they do) but this statement is bizarre.

If he is a doctor, someone better check to see where he may have obtained his degree and question their progam.....

117 posted on 12/02/2003 1:31:13 PM PST by b4its2late (Hillary's got more wrinkles than an elephants scrotum.)
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To: kattracks
"Democratic presidential front-runner Howard Dean pledged Monday night to "break up" the Fox News Channel along with other conservative news outlets owned by media baron Rupert Murdoch."

But he'd leave alone his liberal buddies that have 'empires' just as large.

118 posted on 12/02/2003 1:31:50 PM PST by MEGoody
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
AHHHH!!! That is a map one loves to see again. What a thing of beauty.
119 posted on 12/02/2003 1:32:33 PM PST by gimmealewinsky (Send the frenchies to show'em how to surrender...)
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