Hillary to Troops: Support for War Fading

NewsMax.com ^ | 11/29/03 | "With Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff"

[thesummerwind]

Moderator note: I know it's going to be tough, but, please watch the calls for violence against this creature.

In a demoralizing message to U.S. soldiers serving in Iraq, visiting New York Sen. Hillary Clinton told them that Americans back home are growing increasingly skeptical of President Bush's decision to send them into battle.

Describing two meetings with G.I.s over turkey dinners in Baghdad, Sen. Clinton told reporters later that soldiers wanted to know "how the people at home feel about what we are doing."

Clinton said she told the troops, "Americans are wholeheartedly proud of what you are doing but there are many questions at home about the (Bush) administration's policies."

She also suggested that the U.S. could eventually loose the war in Iraq, contending, "We have to exert all of our efforts militarily, but the outcome is not assured."

Despite her sour pronouncements, the former first lady insisted that the soldiers were just as glad to see her as they were President Bush, whose surprise visit less than 24-hours earlier was greeted with standing ovations.

"It's a positive for the commander-in-chief to visit troops in the field," Clinton told reporters, adding, "the troops [also] seemed to appreciate seeing myself."

Speaking from a secure location just over the Kuwaiti border, Mrs. Clinton launched one verbal salvo after another at the White House, arguing that Bush officials had been "obsessed" with getting Saddam Hussein and saying the perception blinded them to the difficulties of deposing his regime.

"The Pentagon tried to make do with as few troops as possible, as light a footprint as they could get away with," Clinton said. "Now, we're playing catchup . . . Unfortunately, I don't think they fully appreciated the conditions we would encounter."

The top Democrat also reprised her charge that the White House is being less than candid when it comes to apprising the American people of the costs of the war.

"The obstacles and problems here are much greater than the administration usually admits to," she said, adding, "Everybody has to be honest."

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[The Mayor]

If I'm not mistaken they voted down the convention a couple years ago. I thought it was in a general election.

I'll have to ask around and find out for sure.

[Calpernia]

This would be putting ONE person up against entire corrupt system. This will be harder. I think all options need to be explored simultaneously. If you get a chance, review that site, http://www.judgewatch.org to see what is currently being done to that woman, Elena Sassower. Unless there is more to the story that I don't know about...it seems as if she is being criminalized for standing up to a corrupt system. All these little subgroups fighting the system alone need to be pulled together. Too many little people (groups) are fighting alone with limited resources. Ideally, we should learn from Al Qaeda. We need a central head group for financing and information to trickle down to smaller groups. After all, the Romans were successful for learning to fight their enemies by copying their enemies battle styles.

[Calpernia]

>>>You as a NJ citizen are indeed free to urge your Federal Senator to consider censure

Emails and letters went. Don't hold your breath for anytype of response though. NJ is very corrupt. I have no idea why AbScam was stopped by the FBI. I don't think that sting operation was done.

[PigRigger]

"NOT ALL of us voted for the witch!...."

Funny, when she ran all I heard from the LI soccer mom's was that "she loves the children, we have to do it for the children..."

So stupid, so ignorant.

While Lazio served LI in the House, he lived in Amityville and Bayshore; both well integrated communities with marginal public school systems.

Lazio lived in the communities he represented; he sent his kid's to the sames schools of those he represented; he attended a local church; he decided to be part of his community rather than apart from it. The same can never be said of the Hildabeast and family.

These Dimwitt's that voted for her; yeah, she loves the children more.

[Redwood71]

"more sensible like you were."

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Sensible? I was so enraged that I wrote a letter my English teaching mother would have ripped apart. I may have gotten the point across, but it was truly "Dick and Jane" gramatically. But, thanks for your support also. It sometimes takes a little anger to get the job done.

Red

[PeteFromMontana]

A couple of nice follow ups from some fine Freepers this morning:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1032321/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1032339/posts

[Calpernia]

We are plotting a revolt over here. Why don't we make it a tri state effort? Start here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1030675/posts?page=1883#1883 and work your way up.

[spookycc]

belated Bump

[Kudsman]

>>>State Constitutional Convention
Where are we exactly on this timeline?

The next possible date for calling a NY State Constitutional Convention will be in 2017.

Does this mean that citizens are in the current states hip pockets for monies?

Exactly. But not only citizens. Local budgets are substantially impacted by "Government funds". Since Hillary is the poster child for big Government money solutions for every problem, there is going to be stiff resistance to any action directed at her. Not to mention the howling and vilification by the accomplice press.

I did read the link from Judgewatch. Pretty ominous stuff. Just think, this the kind of gestapo tactics that would become routine for this country if Hill were to not be checked.

[Kudsman]

The choices seem to be pretty cut and dried.

1. Get some Senator to introduce a Censure Resolution to the Senate Judiciary Committee (yes same one as Ms. Elena is dealing with) which requires a Majority vote of the Senate. It would be subject to filibuster.

2. Go for Expulsion vote of the Senate. Requires 2/3 vote.

3.Beat her ass like a red-headed step child in 06.

Of course 1&2 are a little dependant upon having something to go on. Say like a conviction of treason or sedition.

[nicmarlo]

I'd like all three above.....but, if we have to settle, this would be BEST:

3. Beat her @$$ like a red-headed step child in 06.

[Kudsman]

Unless there was a concerted Statewide simultaneous showing of acknowledgement, by the people, that our elected Senator has committed a gross misconduct of her office. Then some may be so emboldened. Otherwise.....for naught.

[Calpernia]

>>>>Exactly. But not only citizens. Local budgets are substantially impacted by "Government funds". Since Hillary is the poster child for big Government money solutions for every problem, there is going to be stiff resistance to any action directed at her. Not to mention the howling and vilification by the accomplice press.

This is where my idea would work. Now if I could only get a group to pull together on it.

[Kudsman]

FReepmail incoming bump.

[imadeepdiver]

"Speaking from a secure site just over the Kuwati border."
A whole host of military men and women fighting everyday to secure the site to be safe for her. The coward could not even go to Baghdad. What a piece of crap. Lord help us all.

[The Mayor]

some Senator to introduce a Censure Resolution to the Senate Judiciary Committee

I know a pubbie in the House Tom Reynolds or how about John Warner, I've got an in with the Republicans in Virginia. I met Virgil Goode and Jerry Kilgore, Jerry will be the next Gov there.

pernia,This is where my idea would work. Now if I could only get a group to pull together on it.

Thats the big question

[Calpernia]

Well, the money is there on the table. That is what people follow. Hence our corrupt system.

[cardinal4]

Good evening! Another morning of calling pols. Most of the staffers I spoke to were angry about what she said but were reluctant to say wheather there was anything in the works against the Hildebeast. At least to me anyway. I urged censure at the very least to each..

[Calpernia]

I haven't received any acknowledgement on email. I won't know about snail mail for a bit.

[nicmarlo]

Very good, cardinal! Thanks for the update on your work. It's appreciated.