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DEMOCRATS TEMPER PRAISE FOR BUSH VISIT WITH CRITICISM
New York Times ^ | 11/28/2003 | Adam Nagourney

Posted on 11/27/2003 8:58:49 PM PST by ServesURight

Democrats Temper Praise for Bush Visit With Criticism

By ADAM NAGOURNEY

With his Thanksgiving Day excursion to Baghdad, President Bush moved to regain control of an issue that Democrats have increasingly viewed as a political liability, reinforcing his commitment to the war while displaying solidarity with troops his rivals had accused him of neglecting, Democratic officials said yesterday.

The surprise visit stunned and confused his rivals, who struggled — in the midst of Thanksgiving dinner — to balance praise for the president's gesture with renewed criticism of his Iraq policy, which they said would be among his greatest vulnerabilities in next year's election.

"It's nice that he made it over there today, but this visit won't change the fact that those brave men and women should never have been fighting in Iraq in the first place," said Jay Carson, a spokesman for Howard Dean, one of the biggest critics of the war among the nine Democrats vying for the party's presidential nomination.

Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts issued a statement saying that the trip was "the right thing to do for our country." But, he added: "When Thanksgiving is over, I hope the president will take the time to correct his failed policy in Iraq that has placed our soldiers in a shooting gallery."

David Axelrod, a senior adviser to Senator John Edwards of North Carolina, described the visit as a "daring move and great politics," but added: "I think these kids need more. I'm sure they were buoyed by his coming, but they need more."

The trip came at a time of rising criticism of the president for not attending the funerals of the returning war dead. It also came in the same week that Mr. Bush met with families of 26 soldiers killed in Iraq, and thus appeared to be a concerted effort by the White House to deal with a political problem.

And now, in a single day, Mr. Bush may have managed to supplant what has become the single most problematic image of him in this war: The picture of him swaggering across an aircraft carrier in front of banner reading "Mission Accomplished."

That image, which already has shown up in an advertisement by Mr. Kerry attacking the president, now seems likely to be overtaken by the picture of Mr. Bush, his eyes glistening with tears, addressing cheering troops on Thanksgiving Day. It was a moment fraught with imagery that was certainly a central subject of discussion at Thanksgiving tables.

Even aides to Democratic presidential candidates expressed grudging admiration for the political skills of this White House.

"Those guys can do some pretty smart stuff sometimes," a senior adviser to one of the Democrats said.

Matt Bennett, the communications director for Gen. Wesley K. Clark, said: "We're not going to throw stones at the guy for trying to do a nice thing for the troops. When the president goes and spends time with the troops, that's a good thing."

One of the most prominent Democrats in the field, Representative Richard A. Gephardt of Missouri, who helped write the Congressional resolution that led to the war, declined to comment on the trip.

In this context, the Democratic candidates sought to stand with Mr. Bush in his gesture of solidarity, while not letting go of the issue of how he has handled the war since the fall of Baghdad. Chris Lehane, an adviser to General Clark, praised Mr. Bush for the trip, but said, "He also has a responsibility to offer us a real success strategy in Iraq so we can get our troops out of there so they don't have to spend future Thanksgivings in Iraq."

Jano Cabrera, a spokesman for Senator Joseph I. Lieberman of Connecticut, said: "In fairness, visiting with the troops is exactly what a commander in chief should do. That said, we hope that he's also reassuring them that the administration will eventually have a plan to win the peace and bring our troops home soon."

Mr. Bennett expressed skepticism that yesterday's events would remove the issue of the war and Mr. Bush's handling of it from the table next year.

"They made their bed with that `Mission Accomplished' trip, and that's going to be around for a long time," he said. "That's not the last ad you will see with that. I will guarantee you that whoever the nominee is will have that image up."


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: angrydems; bush; democrats; handwringers; iraq; thanksgiving; thanksgivingvisit
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To: hellinahandcart
Well, I suppose I now see an upside to having RCN instead of TW. LOL!
61 posted on 11/28/2003 8:40:35 AM PST by NYC GOP Chick (Dick Gephardt, Before He Can Do It To You!)
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To: CaptRon
Do they have any idea how disrupting a Presidential visit would be to a private funeral? Ridiculous.

Bush often speaks with parents of fallen soldiers.

62 posted on 11/28/2003 9:17:04 AM PST by chiller (could be wrong, but doubt it)
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To: ServesURight
And now, in a single day, Mr. Bush may have managed to supplant what has become the single most problematic image of him in this war: The picture of him swaggering across an aircraft carrier in front of banner reading "Mission Accomplished."

Sniff sniff!

63 posted on 11/28/2003 9:21:03 AM PST by sauropod ("Better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt")
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To: MPCarr
"This is a lose-lose for Democrats. Clinton visited the troops in Kosovo on Thanksgiving and Hillary is in Afganistan now. There is nothing they can say against Bush's trip without being called on it. "

But, unlike the Clintons, W did not make a media spectacle out of his visit. He went out unannounced. I believe that he did this because he felt a sense of responsibility to our troops. The Clintons made their trip purely for political purposes.
64 posted on 11/28/2003 9:25:28 AM PST by Constitutional Patriot (Socialism is the cancer of humanity.)
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To: Mo1
Can someone please tell me what past president has attended funerals

I heard a radio talker this morning on the subject (I forget his name-a holiday fill-in guy), but he pointed out that no recent president (except the camera hungry Clinton) did this. This was true throught WW-II, Korea, and Viet Nam.

65 posted on 11/28/2003 9:38:50 AM PST by Fresh Wind
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To: rdb3
I think that "secretly" all the dem wannabes are glad gw went and upstaged hillary....she has upstaged them enough and they are afraid to say anything....but i'll bet they secretly "hi-5ed" each other and said "way to go prez"..slam that big assed bitch again on our behalf.

66 posted on 11/28/2003 9:46:05 AM PST by cajun-jack
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To: Fledermaus
"Democrats are worthless pieces of human scum. Period."

Please do not confuse democrats with liberals. A true democrat is the one that voted for Reagan in 84. They believe in social issues but also believe in a strong military and lower taxes. Kennedy, Truman, now they were democrats.

Today's liberals are closet socialists, too ashamed to call themselves socialists and feel the need to justify it by calling themselves democrats. They are an infected pimple on the ass of society.

Yet I am so grateful for them. I am grateful because that means 4 more years of true American values.

67 posted on 11/28/2003 10:06:32 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz
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To: cajun-jack
I think that "secretly" all the dem wannabes are glad gw went and upstaged hillary....she has upstaged them enough and they are afraid to say anything....but i'll bet they secretly "hi-5ed" each other and said "way to go prez"..slam that big assed bitch again on our behalf.

When I think about it that way, it does make sense.


68 posted on 11/28/2003 10:12:25 AM PST by rdb3 (The Left does indeed have principles. You won't agree with them because they're evil.)
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To: ServesURight
And now, in a single day, Mr. Bush may have managed to supplant what has become the single most problematic image of him in this war: The picture of him swaggering across an aircraft carrier in front of banner reading "Mission Accomplished."
Problematic for whom? This is a BIG case of JUMPSUIT ENVY!
69 posted on 11/28/2003 10:23:13 AM PST by Libertina ("We're not establishing intimacy with these people, we want to crush them." Rush on rats.)
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To: CaptRon; Mo1
Has anyone found any evidence of a sitting American president attending a private funeral of a soldier killed in action?

I believe Presidents don't attend the funerals of indivdual soldiers because they do not want to send the message that one life is more valuable than another. If he attended one, other families would wonder why he is not at theirs, aren't they good enough? Better not to attend any.
It's not for lack of caring, the DemonRATS who are whining and sniveling about this are just spouting yet another talking point. They know damn good and well why he is not attending funerals.

70 posted on 11/28/2003 11:04:25 AM PST by GatorGirl
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To: ServesURight
pardon this quick side-bar:

Dear lurkers/posters...Pass The Word!

Dubya DELIVERED the turkey and the morale-injection...time for us to
deliver the goods for the next holiday!!!

Deadline for mailing military carepackages for Christmas delivery is DECEMBER 4TH!

(and we all know in our hearts those Christmas packages MUST be there by/before December 24th...
shhh...don't tell the children...)

For info, see threads at there URLs:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1023324/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1003802/posts
71 posted on 11/28/2003 11:33:18 AM PST by VOA
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To: ServesURight
I think these kids need more. I'm sure they were buoyed by his coming, but they need more."


Well, let's get the senate democrats rounded up and do an airdrop into Baghdad in broad day light.
72 posted on 11/28/2003 11:37:12 AM PST by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
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To: GatorGirl; CaptRon
I believe Presidents don't attend the funerals of indivdual soldiers because they do not want to send the message that one life is more valuable than another. If he attended one, other families would wonder why he is not at theirs, aren't they good enough? Better not to attend any. It's not for lack of caring, the DemonRATS who are whining and sniveling about this are just spouting yet another talking point. They know damn good and well why he is not attending funerals.

That is what I thought

Thank you for confirming this .. maybe we should email the media this .. they seems to have choosen to forget this information

73 posted on 11/28/2003 12:15:45 PM PST by Mo1
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To: Fresh Wind
I heard a radio talker this morning on the subject (I forget his name-a holiday fill-in guy), but he pointed out that no recent president (except the camera hungry Clinton) did this

The thing is .. I don't recall seeing on the news of Clinton ever attending a funeral of a fallen soldier

74 posted on 11/28/2003 12:18:47 PM PST by Mo1
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To: Mo1
Ahh, don't waste your time, they'd ignore it, they don't want to lose a reason to criticize. It's like the libs who are criticizing the fact that the caskets returning from overseas are not shown on the news. This is not a new policy but they act like it's Bush's idea!
75 posted on 11/28/2003 5:47:48 PM PST by GatorGirl
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Please do not confuse democrats with liberals. A true democrat is the one that voted for Reagan in 84. They believe in social issues but also believe in a strong military and lower taxes. Kennedy, Truman, now they were democrats.

Most of those democrats you define are no longer welcome in the Democratic Party and have switched to Independent or Republican over the last twenty years.

But yes, there are still the Zell Miller's that will never stop calling themselves a Democrat even though they are not represented by their party.

76 posted on 11/28/2003 10:49:51 PM PST by Fledermaus (Fascists, Totalitarians, Baathists, Communists, Socialists, Democrats - what's the difference?)
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