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1 posted on 11/22/2003 10:42:56 AM PST by Jacob Kell
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So Islam has a patent on the crescent moon logo?

Some people will see what they want to see, I guess.

2 posted on 11/22/2003 10:46:11 AM PST by Pern ("It's good to know who hates you, and it's good to be hated by the right people." - Johnny Cash)
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I can't find a copy of that BC cartoon, does anyone have a link to it?
3 posted on 11/22/2003 10:46:53 AM PST by buffyt (Can you say President Hillary? Me Neither!!!!)
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4 posted on 11/22/2003 10:47:03 AM PST by dixiechick2000 ("A memo to all you liberals: The party's over. I'm back!!!"-----Rush Limbaugh)
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Cartoonist should to apologize for printing cartoon that is not funny. But this is insult to Muslims? Now this is funny.
7 posted on 11/22/2003 10:50:56 AM PST by Alter Kaker (Whatever tears one may shed, in the end one always blows one’s nose.-Heine)
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To: Jacob Kell
Let's see. The twisted interpretation of this Johnny Hart work is that Muslims are cavemen whose homes smell bad. I don't see it, but in any charge of defamation, truth IS a defense.

The whole flap reminds be of a shaggy dog story. Others can put all the shag back on the dog. The punchline is, "If the foo sh*ts, wear it." Dunno why that comes to mind in the midst of this particular subject. LOL.

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10 posted on 11/22/2003 10:52:53 AM PST by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com Visit. Join. Help. Please.)
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"A guilty conscience needs no accuser."
11 posted on 11/22/2003 10:53:49 AM PST by DuncanWaring (...and Freedom tastes of Reality.)
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It seems the crescent moon on outhouses was an invention of cartoonists of yore: http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a2_382.html
12 posted on 11/22/2003 10:54:32 AM PST by Welsh Rabbit
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The Post interviewed a number of analysts who believed Hart's outhouse strip was an intentional defamation of Islam.

Marshall Blonsky, professor of semiotics at the New School in New York, said for one thing, people don't slam outhouse doors.


Now that is funny!


gitmo
15 posted on 11/22/2003 10:59:17 AM PST by gitmo (Stability cannot be purchased at the expense of liberty. -GWB)
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We wouldn't want to offend any of the peace-loving practitioners of the Religion of Peace, would we?
16 posted on 11/22/2003 11:00:15 AM PST by Astronaut
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Islamofacist: "I resemble that remark!!!
17 posted on 11/22/2003 11:05:18 AM PST by You Gotta Be Kidding Me
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Let's see. Up yours raghead murderers!
21 posted on 11/22/2003 11:13:57 AM PST by lawdude (Liberalism: A failure every time it is tried!)
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Maybe we should start referring to said religion as simply "'Slam", dropping the initial letter "I".

Just a thought.

22 posted on 11/22/2003 11:14:23 AM PST by alloysteel
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If the cartoon had been festooned with stars and stripes and the sound effect was "BUSH!", the mediots would be jumping all over themselves nominating Hart for a Pulitzer.
23 posted on 11/22/2003 11:15:05 AM PST by JennysCool
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Absolute and total proof - if it were needed - that special interest groups like CAIR are paid in direct proportion to how many mountains they can make out of ant hills.
25 posted on 11/22/2003 11:20:22 AM PST by Let's Roll (And those that cried Appease! Appease! are hanged by those they tried to please!")
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i think hart has the right to do what he wants with his cartoons, and the Islamists have the right to object. death threats are another thing,
i think they may be right about the cartoon, given the matching crescent moons in the sky, and the weird placement of the word "slam", as well as the earlier cartoon where hart appeared to be knocking Judaism. if you read the entire article, especially about the knocking of Judaism, it is hard not to conclude that he is knocking Islam in this one.
at first i thought the Islamists were just being paranoid, but i think they are right.
28 posted on 11/22/2003 12:12:38 PM PST by drhogan
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An expert in the interpretation of signs and symbols, Blonsky said he didn't get the joke, and the cartoon makes sense only in light of the religious interpretation.

Blonsky opined that when it comes to artistic criticism, it is a mistake to give much weight at all to the artist's stated intention.

All that matters, he said, is the way people interpret it. Therefore, even if Hart intended no offense, the offense is there.

So let me get this right. He is too stupid to get the joke, but he was offended and that's all that matters. Well I find this idiot offensive.

And how does one become designated as an "expert in the interpretation of signs and symbols" anyway? Can you interpret this symbol?


29 posted on 11/22/2003 12:53:01 PM PST by Bubba_Leroy
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first off I would like to Thank CAIR-- had it not been for
them I would have never known that Johny Harts' B.C. was
making a valid comment about ISLAM.Even with their crap
I still am not convinced I see the valididity of their point. However I do intend to copy the tune and send it
out with all my Christmas cards this year.IF it makes CAIR
angry it must be good for America.
30 posted on 11/22/2003 1:11:22 PM PST by StonyBurk
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>>The paper also interviewed six leading cartoonists, who all admire Hart. Five of them thought the religious interpretation probably was right, including Berkeley Breathed, creator of "Bloom County" and "Opus," and Jef Mallett, creator of the nationally syndicated cartoon "Frazz."

Only Doonesbury's Garry Trudeau sided with Hart.

"We cartoonists are simple folk. We don't write on that cryptic a level," he told the Post. "Leave Johnny alone." <<

I hate to tell you but when Trudeau thinks that this was not an afront to Islam, I have to believe it was.

31 posted on 11/22/2003 1:15:45 PM PST by netmilsmom (Proudly, A painful wart on the big toe of progress--No gay marriage!)
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Muslims kill 3000 Americans, and this is the most complelling example of anti-Muslim defamation CAIR can find?

Geez, we must be a tolerant country.

33 posted on 11/22/2003 1:31:30 PM PST by Plutarch
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CAIR is a terrorist front organization that should be terminated.
38 posted on 11/22/2003 10:04:58 PM PST by tubavil
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