FBI looking into Anti-War Protestors.

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[ConservativeMan55]

FBI has collected extensive information on 'tactics, training and organization' of antiwar demonstrators and has advised local law enforcement officials to report any suspicious activity at protests to its counterterrorism squads, confidential bureau memorandum show... Developing...

[Darksheare]

Hey, you're the guy who can't tell the difference between two people.
And you think you can read the minds of leftists.
Almost like 'divining their intent', if you will.

[Darksheare]

Besides, I've converted several lesbians to the straight side.
How many have YOU converted?
;-)

[madison10]

It's breaking news because: 1) It is now up on Drudge under HIS breaking news 2) The FBI hasn't done this type of investigating up until now, so it's new. :)

[arete]

Besides, I've converted several lesbians to the straight side.

None and I don't ever intend to ever try although I have known a few bi girls who have been quite fun.

Richard W.

[af_vet_rr]

Yeah. The good news is that they are no longer investigating and harrassing the following:

White males
Christians
Anti-Abortion Protestors
Smokers
Gun Owners
and Others Who Don't Like Gummint

Just wait, that'll change once a liberal is back in the WH. I can just see it now, some liberal starts railing against guns again, and people who show up to protest against them will find themselves being watched and/or investigated by the FBI, because, you know, they own firearms and therefore are a threat to the government.

I find it amusing all the people in this thread who support this and think that all the protests are organized/paid for by terrorists and want the FBI to watch them, etc., meanwhile the Wahhabi Lobby (terrorists) are practically buying off politicians in plain sight while our borders are becoming more of a national security threat.

I wouldn't be surprised if certain groups (ELF, etc.) got some money from terrorists, but I find our border situation and the fact that there are front people for the terrorists running around in plain sight more of a national security threat than a bunch of hippies railing against this or that.

I know, I know, we can't do anything about the Saudis lobbying/pushing money into the US, because they are our allies in the WoT and all that.

[armymarinemom]

I find it amusing all the people in this thread who support this and think that all the protests are organized/paid for by terrorists and want the FBI to watch them,

I don't think anyone would disagree that the Whabbi Lobby is a security threat. You also can't ignore what a lot of these groups are doing. Read all of the downloadable print out over at ANSWER. Look at some of the people at the demonstrations.

[Travis McGee]

I never said there weren't lots of Lenin's USEFUL IDIOTS in those marches.

Ho Chi Minh and Brezhnev and Mao appreciated all of your efforts, both the paid and the unpaid.

[Travis McGee]

Too many of the world's people are seeing America today as representative of what Germany was in the late 30's and they are expressing their own concerns.

Yes, America deposing the bloody dictator Saddam, and uncovering 100s of 1000s in mass graves, stopping the torture centers and human shredders, that's JUST like Germany in the 1930s.

Idiot. ESAD.

[Travis McGee]

You know what's a real hoot, a great parody? We're going to eventually get tired of the traitors in our midst working to support our enemies, and we're going to track them down, give them quick trials, and HANG THEM, like we used to during a previous civil war.

Ain't that hilarious? We're going to HANG TRAITORS! HAHAHAHA!

[Travis McGee]

I thought you would also appreciate the hilarious parody at #149. After another 9-11 or a WMD attack, we're going to track down the "domestic enemies" among us who have been providing our wartime enemies aid and comfort, and then we're going to start HANGING TRAITORS. And it's so nice that computers leave such nice records. All those nice digital pictures, and addresses. They're going to come in real handy.

[drhogan]

it was a long process. it didn't take too long to see that even those home-grown communists (who, unlike Stalin, hadn't killed anybody) were not going to do anything positive. reading milton friedman and other libertarians influenced me a lot, and i was a libertarian for a long time. The 9/11 attacks combined with the libertarians' rather pathetic response to the government's anti-terror policy made me lose confidence in the libertarians.
i'm still very suspicious of big government, especially when it comes to non-security-related issues. i tend to be libertarian on most issues, and conservative on defense and security issues.
recently, i've read a lot about the history of communism in russia, including a number of biographies of lenin, stalin, and trotsky. there were very few "good guys" in russia to choose from at that time, but even Rosa Luxemburg (the famous german communist) and Emma Goldman (the anarchist) could see at the time that Lenin was a dictator, and quite a few russian communists quit the party over the years because of the dictatorial and vicious methods of lenin and stalin. the more history i read, the more i become anti-communist and conservative on security and defense matters.
many idealistic (and ignorant)young people have started out as communists, but only the truly cynical and evil people can stick with it for very long.

[drhogan]

it was a long process. it didn't take too long to see that even those home-grown communists (who, unlike Stalin, hadn't killed anybody) were not going to do anything positive. reading milton friedman and other libertarians influenced me a lot, and i was a libertarian for a long time. The 9/11 attacks combined with the libertarians' rather pathetic response to the government's anti-terror policy made me lose confidence in the libertarians.
i'm still very suspicious of big government, especially when it comes to non-security-related issues. i tend to be libertarian on most issues, and conservative on defense and security issues.
recently, i've read a lot about the history of communism in russia, including a number of biographies of lenin, stalin, and trotsky. there were very few "good guys" in russia to choose from at that time, but even Rosa Luxemburg (the famous german communist) and Emma Goldman (the anarchist) could see at the time that Lenin was a dictator, and quite a few russian communists quit the party over the years because of the dictatorial and vicious methods of lenin and stalin. the more history i read, the more i become anti-communist and conservative on security and defense matters.
many idealistic (and ignorant)young people have started out as communists, but only the truly cynical and evil people can stick with it for very long.

[wideminded]

I never said there weren't lots of Lenin's USEFUL IDIOTS in those marches.

Maybe I was a useful idiot by going to that demonstration at age 15. Don't feel too bad about it though. The war was wrong. Can you state succinctly what was accomplished in that war that was worth the killing of 58000 of our young men along with millions of Vietnamese and the spending of hundreds of billions of dollars?

As far as the war in Iraq goes, I thought the demonstrators were nuts. But the lack of WMD evidence is definitely delaying the conclusive proof of this.

BTW don't forget to back up your previous statements about "the buses, the loudspeaker systems, the stages etc". I'll agree that the Russians bought some ads in the NYT.

[halfdome]

I don't think the protestors travel all over the world, they go to the protest nearest where they live.

[halfdome]

Which sign is calling for the death of the president?

[Squantos]

Bookmarked so I can come back and help ya pull your head out of your ass later.......reference your But the lack of WMD evidence rant.

Stay Safe Travis....

[halfdome]

Uh, I think he was referring to Tom Ridge, the director of homeland security.

[Oschisms]

Can you state succinctly what was accomplished in that war that was worth the killing of 58000 of our young men along with millions of Vietnamese and the spending of hundreds of billions of dollars?

Concentration camps; the assassination of political enemies, millions dead under communist rule, should I go on?

Many years of US bombs dropping and no Vietnamese went anywhere. Pull the US Army out and all of a sudden everyone grabs anything that can float and gets the hell out of the country- thousands dying in the process.

Thank the North Vietnamese government each time you pray for the soul of a drowned boat person, hippie.

[Travis McGee]

A one minute google search produced dozens of hits. This was the first one, it's a start. If you're not convinced, I'll heap on a few dozen more references for you.

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To understand what really happened we should consider the statements of Col. Stanislav Lunev, a high-ranking Russian defector to the United States. Lunev worked for the GRU, which is the Main Intelligence Directorate of the Soviet (now Russian) General Staff. According to Lunev, the GRU believed itself responsible for North Vietnam's final victory. In Lunev's book, "Through the Eyes of the Enemy," he says that his GRU instructors and superiors would not directly claim credit, but "they strongly implied that the GRU was responsible for the Vietnamese success."

How was this success supposedly achieved?

According to Lunev, the GRU and KGB "helped to fund just about every antiwar movement and organization in America and abroad." This funding, said Lunev, was provided "via undercover operatives or front organizations." More amazing still, Lunev claims that the GRU and KGB "had a larger budget for antiwar propaganda in the United States than it did for economic and military support of the Vietnamese."

In other words, Russia's antiwar propaganda campaign against the American effort in Vietnam had cost the Kremlin over $1 billion. And look how well it worked. As Lunev recounts in his book, "it was a hugely successful campaign and well worth the cost. The antiwar sentiment created an incredible momentum that greatly weakened the U.S. military."

In other words, U.S. military victories were negated by communist propaganda victories in the United States. While the communists were being slaughtered in futile offensive attacks against Vietnam, the American people were being systematically convinced that the war was hopeless. Allied victories were overshadowed by intensive GRU-KGB propaganda. Indochina 25 Years Later

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The millions of Asians slaughtered by commnunism after YOUR KIND forced the US out of SE Asia curse your naivety.

Today, YOUR KIND wants to force us out of Iraq, so that Saddam can once again begin filling the mass graves, torture centers, and human shredders.

[tgslTakoma]

Try some of these links to get to know International ANSWER's darling, Brian Becker:

More US war crimes exposed

Brian Becker's tribute to (one of) his hero(es), Sam Marcy.

Capitalism and child poverty: The biggest abuser of all (article by Brian Becker)

Now, you'll love this article by Brian Becker in Nov. 2000... "Workers World Party hits streets with election message"

Here's an article Becker wrote in '97 while on assignment in Cuba for WWP.

I'd link more, but I'm getting fairly disgusted by the content of Becker's commentary. He's a prolific writer of screeds against all things pertaining to the American form of government. Just do a Google search on "Brian Becker communist," or "Brian Becker workers world party," and you'll find thousands of links to more of his spew.

All of the cANSWER crew are commies - and peace is the farthest thing from their minds.

P.S. Brian Becker has declared that I am a spy for the US government - "a cockroach." And one day last May as I took photos during an advertised public event, outdoors at Freedom Plaza of all places, he encouraged a bunch of thugs and "peace" rally-goers to do with me what one does with cockroaches. Some of his fans took his words to heart and made threats to my health and safety. You can view my photos from that "civil rights rally" here. Brian Becker and Mara VerHeyden-Hilliard, and other leaders of the "peace movement" are not peace-loving at all.