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Bombshell: Kobe Accuser Had Sex with Key Witness
The Globe ^ | 11/20/03 | Globe

Posted on 11/21/2003 11:44:43 AM PST by Smogger

A new bombshell revelation in the Kobe Bryant case threatens to destroy the credibility of the prosecution’s key witness - whose testimony could send the basketball superstar to jail for years. Sources told GLOBE that the 19-year-old woman who has accused Bryant of rape told them she had sex with the prosecution’s star witness Bobby Pietrack - a week before she met Bryant.

Pietrack, a 23-year-old bellhop at the resort where the alleged rape took place, is the first person Katelyn Faber told about her encounter with Bryant. He can testify about her emotional state and physical appearance at the time.

But legal experts tell us that if there was a sexual encounter between Katelyn and the bellhop, it could wreck his credibility and sink the case of the Eagle County, Colo., prosecutor.

For all the details of this blockbuster story, pick up the new issue of GLOBE.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: attackthevictim; co; declineoffr; felonycrank; frsinksverylow; katefaber; kobebryant; lakers; lowlifeposting; nba; rape; rapeshield; saddayforfr; scummingoffr; slimethevictim; smearthevictim; vileattack
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To: cyncooper
Oh, and....

Another sort of interesting issue is the comment during the defense response to the motion for an investigation of defense "leaks" that during a prior inquiry into sheriff's department leaks the DA's office had refused to conduct the investigation because of animosity between the two agencies.

Taking a case to trial when you're not getting along with the agency providing the witnesses isn't the most ideal of circumstances.

Gonna need lots of popcorn for this one...

521 posted on 11/21/2003 9:38:28 PM PST by ArmstedFragg
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To: Howlin
After all, if they thought it was Kobe's, you can be sure they would have typed it Day One.

Gee, you think?

Actually, with respected to the prelim, it might be more accurate to say they wanted their part of the prelim open. It's to the eternal credit of the judge that he saw through that scam.

522 posted on 11/21/2003 9:44:40 PM PST by ArmstedFragg
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To: ArmstedFragg
Well, yeah, when things "broke bad" for them (meaning Mackey actually asked some questions.....LOL), they immediately asked for it to be closed!
523 posted on 11/21/2003 9:51:48 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Brandon; cinFLA
Ya'll look wronger by the day. Just an opinion.
524 posted on 11/21/2003 9:55:03 PM PST by PRND21
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To: Smogger
Where have all the Kobe haters gone??? Long time calling, a whoa, whoa.. Where have all the Kobe haters gone??? Long time ago... Where have all the Kobe haters gone?? I suspect to Michael Jackson... when will they ever learn, that Kobe is the victim here..

525 posted on 11/21/2003 9:57:56 PM PST by Porterville (We are watching you liberal scum, soon we will take your welfare check, then we will take your home)
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To: Howlin
Mackey actually asked some questions

I guess they don't get a lot of that in Eagle.......

526 posted on 11/21/2003 10:11:15 PM PST by ArmstedFragg
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To: Howlin
The difference in you and some of us is that when he says "you can definitely see it" you assume he meant with his naked eye, when he just as well could have meant "under the microscope."

I guess we will have to wait until the trial to get the truth about the blood evidence.

I'm leaning toward the "under the microscope" therory, at this point.

527 posted on 11/21/2003 10:12:57 PM PST by Strider
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To: Sabertooth
If Kobe is innocent, he doesn't need to smear the victim.

That's the stupidest thing I ever read.

If Kobe is innocent, then there is no victim, except Kobe!

If Kobe is innocent, then his accuser is a not a victim, but a victimiser and a perjurer!

If Kobe is innocent, then he needs a fair opportunity to prove it, and to prove that his accuser is a conniving liar.

If Kobe is guilty, then he should hang and his accuser will probably end up more than adequately compensated for any embarrassment that Kobe's defense team might put upon her.

528 posted on 11/21/2003 10:15:08 PM PST by P-Marlowe
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
If a prostitute is raped, should she be able to report it? :)

The big question is whether it is rape if the John refuses to pay. Sex by force or fraud is technically rape. If the prostitute had sex with the man because he promised to pay her and he refuses to pay her, then he has committed fraud.

Since prostitution is illegal, the contract is void, and hence no fraud. However in Nevada, at a licensed brothel, refusal to pay may indeed be rape.

529 posted on 11/21/2003 10:19:33 PM PST by P-Marlowe
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To: P-Marlowe
If Kobe is guilty, then he should hang and his accuser will probably end up more than adequately compensated for any embarrassment that Kobe's defense team might put upon her.

Precisely.

What I wonder is how all these people think Bryant is suppose to defend himself when ANYHTING he says or his attorney says brings on a chorus of "Bashing the victim!"

530 posted on 11/21/2003 10:21:30 PM PST by Howlin
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To: nickcarraway
I never said any evidence should be excluded.

But the law requires that it be excluded. Do you agree with a law that would exclude extrinsic evidence that might show that the "victim" was a willing participant? Shouldn't the evidence come in and the jury make a determination as to whether it makes any difference? Aren't we interested here in getting to the truth? If so, then what purpose is served by excluding the evidence?

BTW you have been officially expelled from NOW.

531 posted on 11/21/2003 10:23:19 PM PST by P-Marlowe
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To: P-Marlowe
Exactly !
532 posted on 11/21/2003 10:26:21 PM PST by Darlin' ("I will not forget this wound to my country." President George W Bush, 20 Sept 2001)
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To: Smogger
I have a problem with this.

The fact that a person has consensual sex with someone, means that another person DID NOT rape her?

Alrighty then.
533 posted on 11/21/2003 10:29:12 PM PST by ladyinred (Talk about a revolution, look at California!!! We dumped Davis!!!)
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To: Howlin
ANYHTING he says or his attorney says brings on a chorus of "Bashing the victim!"

Kobe: I didn't do it.

NOW GANG: How dare you call this innocent victim a liar? What kind of a pig are you? Why are you smearing this poor girl?

Kobe: But I didn't do it.

NOW GANG: Women don't lie, you lying pig. Especially about sex. Only men lie about sex.

534 posted on 11/21/2003 10:34:27 PM PST by P-Marlowe
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To: Sabertooth
It goes deeper than that. They're empathizing with the idol, fantasizing over a life of adultery and sexual entitlement without consequences, and without objection. Woe unto the uppity strumpet who doesn't know her place. Doesn't she know that that hole is for?

Wow Saber, you have got some real issues - and they obviously go way beyond Kobe. Were you assulted or something?

535 posted on 11/21/2003 10:34:55 PM PST by TheOtherOne
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To: ladyinred
The fact that a person has consensual sex with someone, means that another person DID NOT rape her?

But the way I see it -- a woman who has had consensual sex with so many guys --- apparently never told any guy no --- can't wait to clock out and run up to some FAMOUS and very RICH guy's hotel room so she can tell him "no"?

536 posted on 11/21/2003 10:39:38 PM PST by FITZ
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To: Sabertooth
If Kobe is innocent, he doesn't need to smear the victim.

If he is innocent --- how can he get out of a false accusation without proving the accuser is a liar?

537 posted on 11/21/2003 10:42:57 PM PST by FITZ
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To: ladyinred
No, what it means is, that the witness, the PRIME WITNESS, has an ax to grind. And yes, some women DO lie about rape. Perhaps she did and perhaps she didn't. This news just shows that perhaps there's far more to this story that you are willing to look at.
538 posted on 11/21/2003 10:48:15 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Skywalk
"Even with murder, many people would believe you to be innocent if the evidence were as flimsy as it is in this case".


So you have seen ALL the evidence?
539 posted on 11/21/2003 10:49:13 PM PST by MPJackal (Right makes Might)
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To: cyncooper
I would love to know why they haven't tested them.

1. First rule of law: Never ask a question you don't already know the answer to.

2. If they do ask, and get the results it is not Kobe DNA - the prosecution will be obligated to forward the test results to the defense.

3. The prosecution has an inclination that they might find non-kobe DNA on their victim - (what other explanation is there?)

540 posted on 11/21/2003 10:50:15 PM PST by TheOtherOne
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