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Terri's Fight - (Daily Thread/Updates) November 19-23
Various | November 18, 2003 | sweetliberty

Posted on 11/18/2003 5:41:24 PM PST by sweetliberty

(Thread 9 - November 19-23)
Link back to thread 8 (Nov. 14-18)

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Contained in Thread 8:

Contact info for Judge Greer and the 6th DCA, link to argument between Pat Anderson and Judge Greer, Judge Baird's predetermination of the case, timeline of Terri's case, statutes being violated (also here) in Terri's case, contact information for Bernie McCabe and Jay Wolfson ( link to a better address for Bernie McCabe), super contact list for Florida courts, legislature, Senate and Washington, link to Gov. Bush's amicus curiae brief, Responding to Patients in the Persistent Vegetative State , a Christian parspective, PC93's letter of complaint against Michael Schiavo to demand criminal investigation and more contact information, contact information for the Florida Committee on guardianship, testimony of Jackie Rhodes, interesting article Is Wife-icide Legal In Florida(?), contact information for investigative ops and judicial operations, transcript of the Hannity and Colmes interview with the Schindlers, links to transcripts of other shows on Terri's case, contact information for Fox News shows, address to send Terri's birthday cards and contact information for advocacy center investigating Terri's abuse and neglect.

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Click on pic for Terri's website

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This thread serves as a place for posting all new general information and references, along with links following Terri's case, plus information on cable news and talk radio shows dealing with the issue, court cases and press releases. This is also the place to post contact information, prayers and general discussion.

If you have something that qualifies as BREAKING NEWS or FRONT PAGE NEWS, please post it on a separate thread in that category in order to give it maximum exposure and then post a link to the article/thread here so that it will be included in the next update of links. Also, if you post links to articles from original sources and there is also a thread on FR, please link to the FR thread. Many original links become corrupt over time and we want to be able to access the information at will.

INDEX OF TERRI THREADS ON FR

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Latest threads on Terri's Case:

A "Painless" Death?

Was Terri Schiavo Beaten in 1990? (Nat Hentoff)

His Fight to Give Terri Schiavo Communion

Terri's family appeals to Oprah fans

Terri Schiavo's Fight

Court Issues New Stay in Schiavo Case

Judge calls Terri's Law intrusive

Mom kept hope for girl who came out of vegetative state

Hannity & Colmes Tonight - Monday, 11-17-03 - Terri Schindler-Schiavo's Parents

"Terri's Lights" Campaign Raises Awareness of Terri Schiavo's Plight

Catholic Media Coalition Declares November 30, 2003 "Theresa Schindler Schiavo Day"

Terri's dad: 'She's literally been a prisoner'

Husband's attorney seeks end to delays in Schiavo case

Terri's Threads on FreeRepublic.com - 18 Nov 2003 0351 PST



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To: nicmarlo
The police were called because of her age and because the situation seemed unusual.

I sure wish this sentence had been elaborated upon.

And the statement that the CAT scan showed no abnormality in the brain. Very weird.

421 posted on 11/22/2003 6:05:50 PM PST by Republic
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To: Ohioan from Florida; All
This is not new news-but was in my email so I wanted to share it...the letter to McCabe is long, but worthy. And the authors haven given permission to use it as one chooses. All of it, parts of it, whatever.

Here is the full email:

" We all need to write letters to him.. Margaret says use this one, revise it if you want to. Even a short note is better than none!

[ name omitted by republic ] and I plan on sending several different letters to him, perhaps emphasizing different points, all urging the need for a criminal investigation as soon as possible.

-----Original Message-----
From: [ omitted by republic ]
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 4:01 AM
To: [ omitted by republic ]
Subject: TERRI - Letter to State Attorney Bernie McCabe

We need to encourage State Attorney Bernie McCabe to investigate criminal actions by Michael Schiavo. We sent him this letter. If you would like to use it or revise it, you are welcome to. He supposedly reads his snail mail. If thousands of people write to him, he may feel compelled to act. Joe and Margaret < last name omitted by republic >

State Attorney Bernie McCabe
14250 49th St. N
Clearwater, FL 33762-2800

Dear State Attorney Bernie McCabe:

We request you initiate a criminal investigation into Michael Schiavo’s many attempts to murder Terri Schindler-Schiavo, which apparently began in 1990 and continues to this day.

This is a summary of what we are hearing. Before Terri’s “collapse,” the relationship between Terri and Michael was bad. Jackie Rhoades testified at the 1996 guardianship hearing that she knew Terri was being abused, that she frequently saw her with bruises on her arms and legs, and that Terri was afraid of Michael. Jackie further stated that Terri intended to divorce Michael.

Terri and Michael had been fighting excessively the day of her “collapse” about the price she had paid for having her hair done, and a friend who feared for Terri’s safety had tried to persuade Terri not to spend that night alone with Michael.

The night of her “collapse,” her brother found Terri in her apartment, lying on the floor unconscious, with her hands around her head/neck area. The only other person in the apartment was Michael. He never claimed someone else had been in the apartment that night.

We are hearing that Terri’s ER report reveals bruising around her neck, a stiff neck, consistent with strangulation, and no cardiac enzymes in her blood, which means she did not have a heart attack.

The CT scan shows multiple fractures, including fractures to the occipital region. Terri suffered horrible injuries after talking with her brother the day of her “collapse.”

The logical conclusion is that Michael beat the daylights out of her and strangled her. Since she was not Michael’s slave, and not his Taliban wife, it is beyond comprehension why the police did not immediately place Michael under arrest for attempted murder.

Michael has continually tried to kill Terri by refusing antibiotics for Terri for potentially fatal infections. Court papers reveal he knew she would likely die. The affidavit of the nurse supervisor, Carla Sauer Iyer, RN, also reaffirms his refusal of antibiotics for Terri.

Carla Sauer Iyer, RN, also reveals Michael’s eagerness for Terri to die. “Throughout my time at Palm Gardens, Michael Schiavo was focused on Terri's death. Michael would say ‘When is she going to die?’ ‘Has she died yet?’ and ‘When is that bitch gonna die?’ “These statements were common knowledge at Palm Gardens, as he would make them casually in passing, without regard even for who he was talking to, as long as it was a staff member. Other statements which I recall him making include ‘Can't anything be done to accelerate her death - won't she ever die?’ When she wouldn't die, Michael would be furious.”

Carla Sauer Iyer, RN, reveals Michael’s motivation for wanting Terri to die. Carla heard Michael complain all the time that keeping Terri alive was costing him a lot of money and that Terri would be worth more to him if she were dead. “Any time Terri would be sick, like with a UTI or fluid buildup in her lungs, colds, or pneumonia, Michael would be visibly excited, thrilled even, hoping that she would die. He would say something like, ‘Hallelujah! You've made my day!’ He would call me, as I was the nurse supervisor on the floor, and ask for every little detail about her temperature, blood pressure, etc., and would call back frequently asking if she was dead yet. He would blurt out ‘I'm going to be rich!’ and would talk about all the things he would buy when Terri died, which included a new car, a new boat, and going to Europe, among other things.”

Carla Sauer Iyer, RN, reveals more possible attempts Michael made to kill Terri. “When Michael visited Terri, he always came alone and always had the door closed and locked while he was with Terri. He would typically be there about twenty minutes or so. When he left Terri would be trembling, crying hysterically, and would be very pale and have cold sweats. It looked to me like Terri was having a hypoglycemic reaction, so I'd check her blood sugar. The glucometer reading would be so low it was below the range where it would register an actual number reading. I would put dextrose in Terri's mouth to counteract it. This happened about five times on my shift, as I recall. Normally Terri's blood sugar levels were very stable due to the uniformity of her diet through tube feeding. It is medically possible that Michael injected Terri with Regular insulin, which is very fast acting, but I don't have any way of knowing for sure.” Carla Sauer Iyer, R.N., concluded by saying, “I ultimately called the police relative to this situation, and was terminated the next day.”

When Terri did not die after all his attempts to kill her, Michael found a way “to accelerate her death.” But not until after a million dollars for Terri’s care and rehabilitation were placed in the bank under Michael’s control. Not one penny of this money was spent for her rehabilitation.

Michael hired George Felos, a “right-to-die” attorney, to pursue a court order to have Terri killed. It was then Michael “remembered” Terri had said she would not want to be kept alive artificially.

Terri was secluded in the hospice where George Felos was chairman of the board. Why would someone who was healthy, though disabled, and who desperately needed rehabilitation, be put into a hospice, a death row for terminally ill patients?

According to Florida Law, Terri must be in a persistent vegetative state in order for a judge to legally rule that she be killed. Obviously, she was not. But, hiding her in a hospice with virtually no visitors, and under the complete control of George Felos who was chairman of the board, and Michael, this falsehood could be perpetrated. Their two doctors testified for Felos that she was in a pvs. The “neutral” doctor selected by Judge Greer was not neutral. His brother was a friend of Felos.

Would Terri have said she would want to die? “Diane Meyer can recall only one time her best friend Terri Schiavo really got angry with her. It was 1981, and it haunts her still. The recent high-school graduates had just seen a television movie about Karen Ann Quinlan, who had been in a coma since collapsing six years earlier and was the subject of a bitter court battle over her parents' decision to take her off a respirator. Meyer told a cruel joke about Quinlan, and it set Terri off.

"She went down my throat about this joke, that it was inappropriate," Meyer says. She remembers Terri wondering how the doctors and lawyers could possibly know what Quinlan was really feeling or what she would want. "Where there's life," Meyer recalls her saying, "there's hope." Understand, Terri said this about a woman in a coma, and on a respirator.

April 26, 2001 Cyndi Brasher Shook came forward with the testimony that while she and Schiavo were dating in 1992, he twice told her that Terri Schiavo and he never talked about what should be done if she ever ended up on life support with no hope of recovery, court records state. And Trudy Capone stated ``Michael confided in me all the time about Terri,'' and goes on to say, ``Michael never knew what Terri wanted.''

Terri was raised in the Catholic church, which strongly supports the right to life, and denounces killing. Which Terri echoed to Diane Meyer.

Terri recently strongly indicated she does not want to die. Before her feeding tube was removed October 15, when told she would be killed if she did not get out of her chair, she tried to climb out of her chair.

Terri should be protected under Title XLIV CIVIL RIGHTS Chapter 765 HEALTH CARE ADVANCE DIRECTIVES 765.104 which allows people to revoke an advance directive.

Is Terri in a PVS? Fifteen doctors have said she is definitely not in a pvs. Her videos show the world that she is not in a pvs. We see her responding to her mother, following a balloon, obeying verbal orders to open her eyes, even being complimented by the doctor when she opened her eyes very widely. We read in affidavits of Terri’s caregivers that she is responsive, talks, cries, laughs, even laughs at jokes, and eats Jell-O. Only Felos’s two doctors and the brother of Felos’s friend state she is in a pvs.

Even now, Michael is asking the judge to remove Terri’s feeding tube again. This would be the third time.

This appears to be a conspiracy to commit murder. Michael is obviously trying to have his wife killed. Felos is an accomplice. When the doctors see Terri responding in a purposeful manner, and claim that is only reflex behavior, that is a lie. When a judge hears and sees compelling evidence that Terri is not in a pvs, but still orders her death, that is illegal.

The world sees this as a case of a husband attempting to murder his wife, with the American judicial system enabling him to have her killed. This is America where people, even wives, are entitled to protection under the law. In America, people, even wives, are entitled to “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.” The executive branch of the government is required to enforce the law, not let it be trampled by people, not even by a judge.

Michael and the court have flagrantly violated many laws. Attempted murder is only one.

We trust you will use the full force of your position to investigate this case.

Sincerely,

Joe < last name omitted > Margaret < last name omitted > Updated! :
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Terri's Links http://heavenlyhands.net/terrislinks.html ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

End of email.

422 posted on 11/22/2003 6:22:00 PM PST by Republic
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To: All
In the letter above...I did not know that Bobby saw Terri before she was removed to the hospital at the time of her attack ( accident, according to MS ). It says he found her with her hands drawn around her neck...but the article by the 'writer' that nicomarlo posted, also above, says the writer found her with her head, face down, towards the east or hallway, and her feet and arms facing west-her body between the bathroom and (?) bedroom, or (?) hallway.

This is a big difference, imho.

423 posted on 11/22/2003 6:25:31 PM PST by Republic
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To: Republic
The police report states that her feet and legs were facing west, not her feet and arms as you stated. The police report makes no mention of the positioning of her hands and arms, curiously.
424 posted on 11/22/2003 6:36:12 PM PST by TSH1
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To: Ohioan from Florida
I guess that depends on the definition of "major", huh?

According to MS, the huge fight they had wasn't major....it was just a misunderstanding....and he made sure Terri would NEVER have a misunderstanding with him again.

425 posted on 11/22/2003 6:46:43 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Republic
I sure wish this sentence had been elaborated upon. And the statement that the CAT scan showed no abnormality in the brain. Very weird.

I agree with you, on both points.

426 posted on 11/22/2003 6:48:54 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: sweetliberty
I am guessing that's it. Despicable, given the vast amount of fractures present, which even that took a year for the hospital to find....
427 posted on 11/22/2003 6:50:00 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: TSH1; floriduh voter
Ah-feet and legs facing west...I should have reread it. This is most curious.

Bobby states her hands were upon her neck....was she this way with the EMT's arrived? Was this noted anywhere? Could this be part of the records that have been sealed? Because...if it is....this is a notable indication, imho, of strangulation. I would have thought MS would have moved her hands...immediately.

FV-Do you have any info on this?

428 posted on 11/22/2003 6:59:56 PM PST by Republic
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To: All
For those of you who were looking for a picture of Deborah Bushnell, Michael's attorney, to compare with the photo of the woman in the car with Michael. Here it is...

http://channels.netscape.com/ns/news/bigpic.jsp?photoid=20031105TP604.jpg&this=2&searchpage=photosearch.jsp&cap=Schiavo&w=ap+or+reuters&max=8&first=&fs=

429 posted on 11/22/2003 7:04:56 PM PST by TSH1
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To: TSH1
She looks like Dr. Death.
430 posted on 11/22/2003 7:07:26 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: TSH1
Now I wish I could remember the girl in the driver's seat...somehow, it didn't seem like Bushnell. Just got a flash...but guess it really doesn't matter. After all, this human vampire actually stood his baby maker mistress in Terri's ROOM as a room monitor when the Schindler's were visiting. Anyone this crass, this cold, this cruel, could care less about who he is seen with....
431 posted on 11/22/2003 7:10:53 PM PST by Republic
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To: Chocolate Rose; sweetliberty; cyn; floriduh voter; pc93; nicmarlo; nickcarraway; Snykerz; ...
Ha, I just read a post there for the "Right Wing Nuts from Free Republic.com" to quit spamming their message board.....LOL
432 posted on 11/22/2003 7:52:10 PM PST by tutstar
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To: Republic
It makes perfect sense...she fell face forward...he picked her up in his arms and rocked her (I'll find the article) and then gently laid her down with her hands cradling her neck so she wouldn't mar the beautiful face he would give his life for...

Yep...makes perfect sense

433 posted on 11/22/2003 8:00:11 PM PST by Krodg
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To: tutstar
They mentioned post #385. I missed that post, did you tutstar? :-)
434 posted on 11/22/2003 8:00:22 PM PST by Chocolate Rose
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To: Chocolate Rose
Who mentioned post 385? Sun Sentinel? that post was mine.... 8^)
435 posted on 11/22/2003 8:02:12 PM PST by tutstar
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To: tutstar
Check your Freep mail
436 posted on 11/22/2003 8:09:00 PM PST by Chocolate Rose
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To: Chocolate Rose; cyn; floriduh voter; sweetliberty; Nightshift
Never mind, my last post to you....went back and looked at the message board.....I don't really care what they think at the paper. I am a Florida citizen and even if I wasn't I would still have the right to post comments on their board. I'm not a feminist but can't imagine why the women's rights groups aren't speaking out for Terri. I think that it is truly because the disabled have become shunned in our Victoria's Secret society.
It just goes to show that the Sentinel really doesn't want any more info on their board than what they 'agree with'. Maybe they're worried about bandwidth, something that FR doesn't seem to be concerned with.
What they don't understand is that there are also many Florida democrats who agree with Terri's law. Sign up for their group at yahoo and you'll see I'm telling the truth. Others have posted here that they have seen the same comments on Dem boards.
So I wonder, if I posted something 'Pro-Terri' and I had come from DU would the monitor have posted the same warning? LOL I don't think so......
I believe that the paper thinks this is a 'political' issue now, either conservative or liberal and it's not. And they don't have the investigative capacity to know that, or even half the info that those who have spent time here researching facts, statutes, etc. For that they ought to hang their heads in shame. The average housewife has become effective in news research. I wonder if the Sun Sentinel is using the research done here to write their stories, it's obvious they're watching us closely.......
437 posted on 11/22/2003 8:17:19 PM PST by tutstar
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To: Republic
Bobby states her hands were upon her neck....was she this way with the EMT's arrived?

Did Bobby attempt CPR? If so, that would suggest that he must have moved her though I'd think he'd have left her face up.

438 posted on 11/22/2003 8:49:24 PM PST by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
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To: tutstar
I'm not a feminist but can't imagine why the women's rights groups aren't speaking out for Terri.

How many "women's rights" groups actually favor protecting the natural rights of woman, and how many are more concerned with attacking those of men? Since Terri can't actively participate in male-bashing, why would a "women's rights" group care about her?

439 posted on 11/22/2003 8:56:13 PM PST by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
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To: All
Here is a letter asking the administator
of the hospital where MS works to look into
whether MS displays the qualities that they
want to see in their nurses.

I am told that combining three transmission
methods yields better results:

fax
Attention:
Mr. Jim Pfeiffer, Administrator
(727) 734-6887

email
Put Jim Pfeiffer in the "to" field
http://www.measehospitals.com/body.cfm?id=144

postal mail
Mr. Jim Pfeiffer, Administrator
Mease Countryside Hospital
3231 McMullen Booth Road
Safety Harbor, FL 34695


Dear Administrator Pfeiffer,

I wish to inform you that my circle has grave
reservations seeing Mr. Michael Schiavo, RN on
the personnel roster of your Emergency Department.
While uncertain whether nurse Schiavo will be
found culpable, we were made aware of public
calls for an investigation into his alleged
criminal activities. Particularly disturbing
are allegations that nurse Schiavo committed
negligence punishable under Florida and
Federal Statutes.

Testimony sworn to in Federal Court alleges
that nurse Schiavo falsified or removed nursing
progress records in connection with guardianship
of the disabled Terri Schindler-Schiavo, whom he
is further said to be exploiting for financial
gain. Should this be true, nurse Schiavo is
in violation of Federal and Florida law and
also of the Florida Nurse Practice Act.

Nurse Schiavo recently petitioned the Florida
State Court to suppress discovery of circumstances
surrounding anomalies shown by a bone scan of
his ward. There are unexplained compression
fractures and trauma to first lumbar vertebra
and right femur. It would be appropriate for
nurse Schiavo to press for an investigation
into the causes of injuries, rather than
seeking to obscure them. We trust you will
agree that a nurse may be expected to look
for the causes of traumatic signs in a person
under his care.

Are you aware that nurse Schiavo admitted under
oath in Florida State Court that he ordered a
urinary tract infection to go untreated in the
hope that it would progress toward potentially
fatal sepsis? On learning of nurse Schiavo’s
alleged delinquencies, we inquired into your
facility and the reputation of your insurance
underwriters. To our relief, we were satisfied
as to Mease Countryside Hospital’s worthiness
of confidence.

Nevertheless, we prefer declining treatment by
your Emergency Department until all doubts
regarding nurse Schiavo’s character and
professional demeanor are resolved. I urge
instructing your Personnel Department to
consider whether having nurse Schiavo on
staff in the interim furthers the favorable
public perception of your quality of service.

Sincerely,
440 posted on 11/22/2003 9:10:59 PM PST by terrasol (Vote for Terri's Law: http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/florida/sfl-1121schiavo,0,3624264.stor)
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