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Mystery behind Aug. 28 incident puzzles Army officials (what felled an M1A1)?
Navy Times ^
| 10-27-2003
| John Roos
Posted on 11/18/2003 12:19:37 AM PST by bonesmccoy
Edited on 05/07/2004 10:11:53 PM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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Shortly before dawn on Aug. 28, an M1A1 Abrams tank on routine patrol in Baghdad
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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: antitank; m1a1; mysteryweapon; tank; waronterror
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To: archy
If you want to satisfy my curiosity please post your response to my FReep mail.
101
posted on
11/18/2003 8:02:00 AM PST
by
SLB
("We must lay before Him what is in us, not what ought to be in us." C. S. Lewis)
To: ConservativeLawyer
Bump for later read.
To: SLB
If you want to satisfy my curiosity please post your response to my FReep mail. You have FReepmail, Earth person.
-archy-/-
103
posted on
11/18/2003 8:20:40 AM PST
by
archy
(Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
To: .cnI redruM; archy; SLB; M1Tanker
the Stryker is an IFV if your enemy makes it one.
Outstanding point, which I wish the powers-that-be could be made to understand. The M113 started out life in 1962 as a battle taxi, and Charlie pointed out the shortcomings of that idea, thus the ACAV.
I think the Stryker is going to sprout free guns and gun shields, and riders on top, and if the chain of command fights that program they are going to have problems.
104
posted on
11/18/2003 8:27:34 AM PST
by
Cannoneer No. 4
(Brave Rifles! Veterans! You have been baptized in fire and blood and have come out steel.)
To: BCR #226
Roger on BCR#226
105
posted on
11/18/2003 8:28:28 AM PST
by
Cannoneer No. 4
(Brave Rifles! Veterans! You have been baptized in fire and blood and have come out steel.)
To: Cannoneer No. 4
I personally think that units will start parking Strykers about 5km away from where they are told to and try to blend into the terrain well before they hit the FEBA. The Strryker needs to sprout a LOSAT or a Bushmaster. A freakin' TOW or Javalin at the very least.
106
posted on
11/18/2003 8:30:46 AM PST
by
.cnI redruM
('Bread and Circuses' ...Fun until you run out of dough.)
To: Cannoneer No. 4
To: Kozak
Quantum Black Hole (Best Rainman voice:) Singularity. Definitely. A singu-laaarity.
108
posted on
11/18/2003 8:37:08 AM PST
by
Bloody Sam Roberts
(Things are more like they are now than they ever were before.)
To: bonesmccoy; SLB
Meteor.
To: BCR #226
No problemo, amigo. Welcome aboard.
110
posted on
11/18/2003 8:40:18 AM PST
by
Cannoneer No. 4
(Brave Rifles! Veterans! You have been baptized in fire and blood and have come out steel.)
To: bonesmccoy
Wow! I'm at a loss for words, but do have one question.
IF, after traveling through the tank skirt, then through everything else, the projectile buried itself 1 1/2 to 2" deep into the hull, did they recover the projectile and examine it, or did it just become part of the hull?
111
posted on
11/18/2003 8:41:27 AM PST
by
Budge
( <>< .)
To: .cnI redruM
5k's? May as well ride 2 1/2T's if that is all the closer they can take them. And the concept of a FEBA assumes a defined front and rear area. I got an email from Michael Gilbert, an embed with 3/2 from the Tacoma Tribune, and he says he will be watching for the things sceptics have been fussing about.
112
posted on
11/18/2003 8:52:56 AM PST
by
Cannoneer No. 4
(Brave Rifles! Veterans! You have been baptized in fire and blood and have come out steel.)
To: bonesmccoy
OR, it might have been George Felos using his powerful mind to do this. After all, he CAN bring down an airplane, according to him.
113
posted on
11/18/2003 9:00:21 AM PST
by
Budge
( <>< .)
To: wirestripper
There are a number of weapons sold by the Russians that look like possibilities. RPG 29 and others appear to share a dual stage fairly modern shaped charge warhead, and there are other new type weapons using what appears to be an improved single stage shaped charge warhead. ROSOBORONEXPORT web site appears to be down or I'd leave a link.
114
posted on
11/18/2003 9:29:47 AM PST
by
Iris7
( "Duty, Honor, Country". The first of these is Duty, and is known only through His Grace.)
To: archy
How many different steel compositions are used in the armoring of a M1A1 to defeat a HESH round?
115
posted on
11/18/2003 9:30:36 AM PST
by
B4Ranch
(Wave your flag, dont waive your rights!)
To: B4Ranch
This is classified information. There is much speculation on the net, if you are curious. Try "chobham armor".
116
posted on
11/18/2003 9:34:00 AM PST
by
Iris7
( "Duty, Honor, Country". The first of these is Duty, and is known only through His Grace.)
To: Iris7
Thanks for the link, looks like it'll be an interesting read.
What effect would a UD projectile with another smaller flat faced projectile behind it have on armor plating? I thought of this because if the spacing defeats HESH rounds, would something like this give the UD projectile a double punch?
117
posted on
11/18/2003 9:50:07 AM PST
by
B4Ranch
(Wave your flag, dont waive your rights!)
To: Bloody Sam Roberts
>(Best Rainman voice:) Singularity. Definitely. A singu-laaarity.
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To: theFIRMbss; Bloody Sam Roberts
To: B4Ranch
120
posted on
11/18/2003 1:22:59 PM PST
by
archy
(Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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