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1 posted on 11/17/2003 10:28:07 AM PST by neverdem
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To: quidnunc
Ping
2 posted on 11/17/2003 10:29:05 AM PST by neverdem (Say a prayer for New York both for it's lefty statism and the probability the city will be hit again)
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To: neverdem
(Economist poll: "Are you proud to be...?" American — 80 percent, British — 51, French — 35, German — 19)

Heh heh heh....

3 posted on 11/17/2003 10:32:39 AM PST by wizardoz
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To: neverdem
read later
4 posted on 11/17/2003 10:43:42 AM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: neverdem
bttt
5 posted on 11/17/2003 10:46:59 AM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: neverdem
Sometimes it is hard to imagine that America was once made out of Europeans. This goes for most people who come from other countries to America today. You ever see/talk with a 3rd generation American (-Mexican) go back to Mexico?
6 posted on 11/17/2003 10:47:59 AM PST by 2banana
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To: neverdem
Interesting article.

I'm not quite convinced ours is still a "Christian nation". But as compared to other parts of the world, the United States remains a refuge for those committed to Christ.
7 posted on 11/17/2003 10:48:46 AM PST by k2blader (Haruspex, beware.)
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To: neverdem
The Last Christian Nation........

ummmm What about all the countries in Central and South America?

9 posted on 11/17/2003 11:23:41 AM PST by qam1 (Don't Patikify New Jersey)
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To: neverdem
Interesting Bump.
11 posted on 11/17/2003 11:26:57 AM PST by DoctorMichael (Thats my story, and I'm sticking to it.)
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To: neverdem
A Nation Apart is discussed here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1017779/posts

I personally feel the majority of Americans are not Christian, although a majority attend church and subscribe to Christian values, as far as they understand them. I hope I'm wrong.

Certainly our government is secular by law. It has gone past secular to violating the first amendment by prohibiting religious expression. See Judge Moore's persecution for having the ten commandments in his courtroom. The posting of these commands does not establish a religion, nor does it coerce anyone to join one. But the courts rule that way.

Persecution for Christians is guaranteed by Jesus. But be of good cheer. He has overcome the world. And he will return to rule it. See my tag.

13 posted on 11/17/2003 11:34:45 AM PST by Forgiven_Sinner (Praying for the Kingdom of God.)
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To: neverdem
I would be interested to know what the numbers in South Korea are? My wife if 5th Generation Christian and Korea sends missionaries to the USA now..
15 posted on 11/17/2003 11:40:56 AM PST by N3WBI3
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To: neverdem; drstevej; CCWoody; Barney Gumble
Excellent article. Derb is one of my favorite NR writers.
21 posted on 11/17/2003 12:04:32 PM PST by jjm2111
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To: neverdem
I often wonder, is it more important to be a Christian nation or to be a nation of Christians....
22 posted on 11/17/2003 12:11:50 PM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: neverdem
Two areas have slowed down the long march of secularism in America. First, the size of the United States makes consolidating power more daunting than in any other European and European-descended nation. Canada is slightly larger than the U.S., and Australia is slightly smaller, but in both nations, the populations are concentrated in a relatively small area, adjacent to either the U.S. border or the ocean, respectively. America's population is better dispersed, and has become more so since World War II. Second, the diversity of denominations impedes the aggregation of ecclesiastic power, which in turn makes it more difficult for humanist wolves in the "sheeps' clothing" of backward collars and Murphy robes to turn the church toward submission to the almighty state.

How long America's good fortune will hold out is difficult to say. Conservative evangelical Christians are the most likely target for persecution, followed by Catholics who hold to the pre-Vatican II positions of their church, observant Orthodox Jews, and the conservative elements in Mormonism. There are two regions that are major problems for the secularists: (1) the greater South (including Oklahoma, Kentucky, Missouri, and West Virginia) and adjacent areas to the north (Pennsylvania to Colorado) and (2) greater Utah (inclusive of Mormon dominated areas of Nevada and Idaho). When evangelicals in area (1) and Mormons in area (2) are relegated to minority status, America will move leftward at a rapid pace. Traditional Catholics lack a large geographic stonghold. Orthodox Jews have one, but it is 6,000 miles to the east of New York.

Even a Reaganesque rout of someone like Howard Dean by President Bush next year will only buy a little time in delaying the long march by secularists through American institutions.

28 posted on 11/17/2003 12:51:47 PM PST by Wallace T.
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To: neverdem
he forgot that the Philippines is a Christian nation...

29 posted on 11/17/2003 12:53:38 PM PST by LadyDoc (liberals only love politcially correct poor people.)
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To: neverdem
Save for reference.

neverdem - thanks for the post.

Best Regards

Sergio
34 posted on 11/17/2003 3:18:00 PM PST by Sergio (...but mine goes to 11.)
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To: neverdem
bump
36 posted on 11/17/2003 5:09:02 PM PST by perfect stranger (No tagline today. Tagline yesterday, tagline tomorrow, but no tagline today.)
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To: neverdem
FWIW

It's worth reiterating that our American values and perspectives and choices increasingly diverge from those of Europe.

We no longer have a shared worldview with Eurabia.

37 posted on 11/17/2003 6:34:14 PM PST by happygrl
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To: neverdem
Actually, there is a country in Africa which is officially a Christian nation.
43 posted on 11/17/2003 7:02:39 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("Men stumble over the truth, but most pick themselves up as if nothing had happened." Churchill)
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To: neverdem
I think we (U.S.) are a post-Christian nation. We are not far behind Britain and France unless we have a revival in this nation.
46 posted on 11/17/2003 7:21:18 PM PST by truthandlife
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