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Sons I gave birth to are 'unrelated' to me
The Telegraph ^
| November 13, 2003
| Roger Highfield
Posted on 11/17/2003 10:20:10 AM PST by NYer
One human chimera came to light when a 52-year-old woman demanded an explanation from doctors after tests showed that two of her three grown-up sons were biologically unrelated to her.
Although the woman, "Jane", conceived them naturally with her husband, tests to see if she could donate a kidney suggested that somehow she had given birth to somebody else's children.
A study in the New England Journal of Medicine by Dr Margot Kruskall, of the Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Centre in Boston, Massachusetts, showed that Jane is a chimera, a mixture of two individuals - non-identical twin sisters - whose cells intermingled in the womb and grew into a single body.
Dr Kruskall believes the most likely explanation is that Jane's mother conceived non-identical twin girls, who fused at an early stage of the pregnancy to form a single embryo, according to a report published today in New Scientist.
For some reason, cells from only one twin dominate in Jane's blood - used for tissue-typing. In her other tissues, however, including her ovaries, cells of both twins live amicably alongside each other, hence the apparently impossible genetics of her three sons.
One son came from an egg derived from the twin whose cells dominate Jane's blood, while his brothers came from eggs derived from the other twin's cells.
Around 30 similar instances of chimerism have been reported, and there are probably many more who will never discover their unusual origins. Most chimeras probably go through life unaware of their unusual constitution.
TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: ccrm; chimera; chimerism; genes; genetics; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; tetragametic; twin
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To: NYer
Oh, great........another "OJ Simpson" defense. "If the twin's in me, you must set free."
To: Nonstatist
You mean a "real" blonde?Which half? (I may have met some chimeras.)
To: BossLady; Mo1; PeaceBeWithYou
Bizarre! An explanation for Hillary perhaps?
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posted on
11/17/2003 10:38:55 AM PST
by
sweetliberty
("Better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.")
To: MHGinTN
Hm. Well. Alrighty then.
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posted on
11/17/2003 10:40:53 AM PST
by
wizardoz
To: NYer
Chimera manufacture is a common technique used in making 'Knockout' mice. I had never heard of it's occurance in humans, but it just stands to reason that it's possible and has occured.
Interesting Bump.
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posted on
11/17/2003 10:43:11 AM PST
by
DoctorMichael
(Thats my story, and I'm sticking to it.)
To: PatrickHenry; boris; RJCogburn
Could you check me on this reply? Thanks
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posted on
11/17/2003 10:43:51 AM PST
by
MHGinTN
(If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
To: wizardoz
Dudes! It's the SuperSoldier(tm), black ooze, Gray Alien, Shapeshiper, alien implant, baby farm project! I saw it on TV!
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posted on
11/17/2003 10:44:24 AM PST
by
50sDad
("Earth First! Then we make MARS our B!tch!")
To: MHGinTN
"Yes, and yes. This woman has cells with one specific 46 chromosome identity and living right alongside those cells, cells with a different 46 chromosome complement. What makews this possible, as I understand it, is that both sets of cells have the same histocompatibility thus are both recognized as being 'her'. [This is a function of same mitochondrial make up, since both sets of chromosomes derived from oocytes produced by her mother's body; mitochondria is passed down to each of us through the mother's gamete(s).]"
I did some Googling on "human chimeras" and found some interesting stuff. For one thing, there are chimeras which are fraternal twins of opposite sexes. One case in England had a child with one testicle and one ovary, so that is possible as well.
Another site raised a question that I'd like to see some of the religious thinkers answer: If this person is a merging of two fraternal twins, does the person have two souls or just one?
I find this phenomenon fascinating!
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posted on
11/17/2003 10:44:32 AM PST
by
MineralMan
(godless atheist)
To: MHGinTN
I once had an adult student whose neck suddenly swelled out, just below the jawbone. After conducting a series of tests, the doctor told her she would require surgery to remove a gill that had not dissolved during her fetal development.
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posted on
11/17/2003 10:45:23 AM PST
by
NYer
("Close your ears to the whisperings of hell and bravely oppose its onslaughts." ---St Clare Assisi)
To: NYer
It seems to me maybe the doctors screwed up or she screwed around.
FMCDH
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posted on
11/17/2003 10:45:43 AM PST
by
nothingnew
(The pendulum is swinging and the Rats are in the pit!)
To: cajungirl
"my daughter has one brown eye and one blue eye,,is she one of these, chimeras I mean, not great danes"
I'd think it very possible, and may well be an explanation for that rare situation. Very, very few folks have different colored eyes, so I'd just bet that is the case.
It would be interesting to find out. If there is a University medical school where you are, there might well be some interest there in answering your question...without any harm to your daughter. The testing wouldn't involve anything more serious than a blood sample and a couple of tissue samples.
What an interesting possibility!
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posted on
11/17/2003 10:46:43 AM PST
by
MineralMan
(godless atheist)
To: NYer
There's also a variation on this, called a "mosaic", in which one of the cells in the developing embryo underwent a mutation (such as a copy error, etc.), resulting in a person who has some tissues/organs (i.e., those which developed from the original mutated cell) having a genetic variation compared to the other parts of the same body.
This can lead to odd medical disorders, whereby some tissues in the body are susceptible to a particular problem while others aren't. It can also make DNA screening for genetic illnesses difficult because the cells (or blood) sampled for genetic screening may be the "healthy" ones.
There is speculation that some cases of Alzheimer's or autism may be a result of this.
To: NYer
"after tests showed that two of her three grown-up sons were biologically unrelated to her.VS.
""Jane is a chimera, a mixture of two individuals - non-identical twin sisters - whose cells intermingled in the womb and grew into a single body
If Jane is a mixture of herself and her sister, than any children born by her are certainly "biologically related". They may well display very unusual DNA traits which would not match the normal parent/child patterns, but this is so contradictory that I can't take anything else in the story serious.
Who trains these reporters anyway, Democrats?
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posted on
11/17/2003 10:50:57 AM PST
by
Lloyd227
To: NYer
Wasn't this an X-Files episode???? (just kidding)
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posted on
11/17/2003 10:51:40 AM PST
by
dawn53
To: nothingnew
It seems to me maybe the doctors screwed up or she screwed around. See post #20.
To: cajungirl
More info:
The condition is called heterochromia, and is rare and usually benign in nature, not causing any problems. Your daughter may be interested to know that singer, David Bowie has different colored eyes. She's famous!
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posted on
11/17/2003 10:51:40 AM PST
by
MineralMan
(godless atheist)
To: Lloyd227
"If Jane is a mixture of herself and her sister, than any children born by her are certainly "biologically related". They may well display very unusual DNA traits which would not match the normal parent/child patterns, but this is so contradictory that I can't take anything else in the story serious. "
Well, you'd be wrong. Do search on "human chimeras" on Google, and you'll find information about other cases of this, with a simple explanation.
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posted on
11/17/2003 10:53:18 AM PST
by
MineralMan
(godless atheist)
To: NYer
Apparently this doesn't apply to this woman, or they would have mentioned it.
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posted on
11/17/2003 10:54:08 AM PST
by
stuartcr
To: NYer
What? That idiot still believed the garbage about recapitulating during gestation all the evolutionary stages in arriving at mammals!
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posted on
11/17/2003 10:55:53 AM PST
by
MHGinTN
(If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
To: Flurry; Just another Joe
Craziness I thought you might find interesting, bump!
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posted on
11/17/2003 10:56:10 AM PST
by
CSM
(Stop the MF today!!! (Flurry, 11/06/2003))
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