Why Six Days? (Six Days of Creation, Literal Days or Era's.

Koinonia House ^ | 11/15/2003 | Dr. Chuck Missler

[bondserv]

Part One of a Series:
Why Six Days?
by Chuck Missler

The Book of Genesis presents a disturbing problem for many Bible-believing Christians. Did God really create the heaven and the earth in just six 24-hour days? How does a serious student of the Torah - the five books of Moses - reconcile the Genesis account with the "billions of years" encountered in the dictums of astronomy, geology, et al?

Many continue to attempt to circumvent the problem by assuming that the six days represent "geological eras," or that the traditional text is simply a rhetorical "framework" for a literary summary of the creative process. Various forms of "theistic evolution" have been contrived in attempts to reconcile the Biblical text with the various theories and conjectures which dominate our evolution-based society.

However, the sincere student cannot escape the confrontations which result from the straightforward reading of the text with the ostensible declarations of "science." How can we deal with these fundamental issues?

Why Is It So Critical?

There are four basic questions that confront all of us: Who am I? Where did I come from? Why am I here? Where am I going when I die?

And your eternal destiny will be determined by your "world view" in addressing these issues. And there are really only two world-views: either everything - including you - is the result of some kind of cosmic accident, or this is all the result of a deliberate design by a Designer.

This issue could not be more fundamental to everything. It comes as a shock to many to discover that every major theme and doctrine in the Bible has its roots in this "Book of Beginnings": sovereign election; salvation, justification by faith, believer's security, separation, disciplinary chastisement, the Divine Incarnation, the "rapture" of the church, death and resurrection, the priesthoods (both Aaronic and Melchizedekian), the Antichrist, and even the Palestinian Covenant that is being challenged by the continuing tensions throughout the world today all have their roots in this critical foundational book of the Bible. And each of these issues also has its consummation in the Book of (the) Revelation. (Like every good textbook, the answers are always in the back!)

Who Really Wrote the Torah?

There are those who have suggested the books of Moses were actually compilations by a number of redactors over the years - the common "Documentary Hypothesis" being one of the most prevalent theories. Fortunately, these previously popular notions have been thoroughly shredded by competent scholarship. But allow me to save you many hours of boring library research. I know who wrote the Books of Moses: Moses did. How do I know? Jesus Christ Himself said so! Many times.¹

Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust. For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words? - John 5:45-47

Jesus quotes from each of the books of the Torah and attributes them each to Moses. The New Testament includes 165 direct quotes (and over 200 allusions) to the Book of Genesis, and over 100 of these are from the first 11 chapters. These include the Creator and the creation, ² (and allusions³), creation of man and woman,⁴ the fall of man,⁵ the Flood of Noah,⁶ etc. So if you believe in Jesus Christ, you have no problem as to who wrote the Book of Genesis. (And if you don't believe in Jesus Christ, you have much bigger problems than the authorship of Genesis!)

But "Six Days"?

The account of the creation of the universe in six days still is a "bone in the throat" to many Christians. Many point out that the word for "day" is yom

, and is translated to 54 other words; however, 1181 of 1480 occurrences it is "day," and when used with a number it is always a literal day. But the real problem isn't the account in Genesis. It is in Exodus. In the middle of the Ten Commandments, the Creator Himself wrote it with His own finger in stone!

For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it. - Exodus 20:11

It is undeniable that God intended us to understand that it was, indeed, six literal days. So how do we deal with the common understanding that "billions of years" was involved? How do we deal with the astronomical distances of millions of "light years" between the galaxies of the universe? Can anyone familiar with the discoveries of modern science take the Genesis account seriously?

It may come as a pleasant surprise to discover that the more you know about modern science - the real physics, not the mythology and conjectures that masquerade as "science" - the more you can take the Biblical text seriously. The Lord always rewards the diligent. (A recent book includes articles by fifty top scientists - from many different fields of specialization - who declare why they believe in a literal six-day creation. ⁷)

The Nature of Time

One of the many advantages that 20th century science has given us is that, thanks to Dr. Albert Einstein's brilliant discoveries, we now know that time is a physical property and is subject to mass, acceleration, and gravity. We have come to realize that we live in a four-dimensional continuum properly known as "space-time." (This is what Paul seems to imply in his letter to the Ephesians!⁸) It is interesting that when one takes the apparent 10¹² expansion factor involved in the theories of the "expanding universe," that an assumed 16 billion years reduce to six days!

Furthermore, the astronomical timetables now seem to be entirely overturned with the reluctant acknowledgments that the speed of light is not longer regarded as the constant that the high priests of physics had been previously convinced of.

The Nature of Light

Not only have recent scientific articles highlighted the discoveries that the speed of light has changed over the centuries (something that Barry Setterfield has been declaring for decades) the very nature of light has ripped open the entire world of quantum physics that has shattered our concepts of reality itself.

The changes in the velocity of light not only impacts our understanding of the astronomical distances and properties, it affects the atomic behavior involved in the red shift of spectra, the reliability of radiological dating, etc. It is the peculiar properties of photons themselves that continue to astonish the quantum physicists wrestling with the very nature of our physical existence. It is now recognized that subatomic particles lack a property known as "locality." All subatomic particles are now understood to be immediately connected. There is a simultaneity - a "non-locality" - among all photons that has been confirmed in the laboratory. It now appears that our entire universe may actually be a gigantic hologram of some kind. ⁹

The Fabric of Space

Most of us assume that space is simply an empty vacuum with nothing "in it." However, it is increasingly evident that even empty space has astonishing properties that have yet to be fully understood. We now know that this "firmament,"(raqia) which the Scripture presents, possesses electromagnetic properties including dielectric permittivity, magnetic permeability, an intrinsic impedance,¹⁰ and has an astonishing "zero-point" energy sufficient to keep all the electrons in the entire universe in their orbits.¹¹ The term "stretching the heavens" appears at least 17 times in the Scriptures.¹²

According to the Scriptures, the heavens can be "torn,"¹³ "worn out" like a garment,¹⁴ "shaken,"¹⁵ "burnt up,"¹⁶ "split apart" like a scroll,¹⁷ rolled up" like a mantle ¹⁸ or a scroll.¹⁹

The concept of being "rolled up" carries some additional insights. There must be some dimension in which space is "thin." If space can be "bent," there must be a direction it can be bent toward. Thus, this tells us that there must be additional dimensions beyond those of space itself. It is now understood that we live in even more than four dimensions: ten dimensions is the current estimate (which is precisely what Nachmonides concluded in his commentary on Genesis back in the 13th century!) The more we understand from the current perspectives of modern physics, the more comfortable we are with the chronicle in Genesis One.

The Architecture of the Solar System

The more we study our solar system, the more questions get raised. Here, too, the prevailing assumptions that are broadly taught are totally specious. The "Nebular Hypothesis," that the planets were somehow thrown off by the sun, is mathematically untenable. There is no plausible explanation that would support a solar origin of the planets. The sun contains 99.86% of all the mass of the solar system, and yet contains only 1.9% of the angular momentum. The nine planets contain 98.1%. Furthermore, the outer planets are far larger than the inner ones. (Jupiter is 5,750 times as massive as mercury, 2,958 times as massive as Mars, etc.)

There are many other provocative enigmas concerning our planetary history:

o There are three pairs of rapid-spin rates among our planets: Mars and Earth, Jupiter and Saturn, and Neptune and Uranus, are each within 3% of each other. Why?

o Earth and Mars have virtually identical spin axis tilts (about 23.5°). Why? (From angular momentum and orbital calculations, it would seem that the three pairs of these planets may have been brought here from elsewhere.)

o Why does Mars have 93% of its craters in one hemisphere and only 7% in the other? It would appear that over 80% occurred within a single half-hour!

It's almost as if God designed it to challenge any naturalistic hypotheses!

"Evening" and "Morning"?

The Hebrew terms, Erev,and Boker, now refer to "evening" and "morning" but their origins remain obscure. Erev

designates obscuration, mixture (increasing entropy). The time when encroaching darkness begins to deny the ability to discern forms, shapes, and identities; thus, it becomes a term for twilight or evening.²⁰ This also marks the duration of impurity, when a ceremonially unclean person became clean again,²¹ and thus, the beginning of the Hebrew day.

Boker is a designation for becoming discernible, distinguishable, visible; perception of order; relief of obscurity (decreasing entropy). It thus is associated with being able to begin to discern forms, shapes, and distinct identities; breaking forth of light; revealing; hence, denotatively, dawn, morning. (As traditional designations for the Hebrew day, technically it would seem to only designate the nighttime hours, but it is used connotatively for the entire calendar day.)

It is noteworthy that neither of these are recorded on the seventh day, and thus their original significance may have been to designate the increments of creation.

Other Issues

There are other questions that arise from the Genesis narrative. When was the earth created? It seems to have preceded the rest of the universe. Surprisingly, there are some cosmologists that are (again) beginning to suspect that the universe may be geocentric after all! How did plants (3rd day) flourish without the sun's photosynthesis (4th day)? When were the angels created? (They apparently witnessed the events of Genesis 1.) ²² When did Satan fall? He had apparently already fallen by Chapter 3.

As we explore these, and other, enigmas that emerge from the Biblical text, let us not confuse the precision of the text with conjectures and mythology that pervades our pagan culture and uninformed classrooms. (It's tragic that we can't insist on evidence-based education for our children rather than the foolishness and dogma that continues to strip them of their God-fearing heritage.)

But the more acquainted you become with the amazing discoveries and insights from the frontiers of science - and are able to dismiss the nonsense that prevails among the uninformed - the more comfortable the Genesis text becomes! We plan to continue this series of articles in the unmitigated aspiration of stimulating you to dig ever deeper into God's inerrant Word!

Notes:      

1. Matthew 8:4; 19:7,8; 23:2; Mark 1:44; 10:3,4; 7:10; Luke 5:14; 16:19, 31; 20:37; 24:27,44; John 3:14; 5:39,45,46; 6:32; 7:19, 22,23.
2. Matthew 13:35; Mark 13:19; John 1:3; Acts 4:24; 14:15; Romans 1:20; 2 Corinthians 4:6; Colossians 1:16; Hebrews 1:10; 11:3.
3. Romans 1:25; 16:25; Ephesians 3:9; 1 Timothy 4:4; Hebrews 2:10; 4:10; 9:26; James 3:9; Revelation 3:14; 4:11; 10:6; 14:7.
4. Matthew 19:4-6, 8; Mark 10:6; Acts 17:26; 1 Corinthians 6:16; 11:8,9; Ephesians 5:31; 1 Timothy 2:13, 14; Revelation 2:7; 22:2, 14.
5. Romans 5:11, 14, 17, 19; 8:19-20; 1 Corinthians 15:21-22; 2 Corinthians 11:3; Revelation 20:2.
6. Matthew 24:37; Luke 17:26; 1 Peter 3:20; 2 Peter 2:5; 3:5-61.
7. John F. Ashton, In Six Days , Master Books, Green Forest AR, 2001.
8. Ephesians 3:18.
9. Cf. "Information in the Holographic Universe," Scientific American , August 2003.
10. Any radio ham that has had to tune an antenna array knows about the 377 ohms.
11. It has been estimated at a staggering 1.071 x 10117 kilowatts per square meter!
12. 2 Samuel 22:10; Job 9:8; 26:7; 37:18; Psalm 18:9; 104:2; 144:5; Isaiah 40:22; 42:5; 44:24; 45:12; 48:13; 51:13; Jeremiah 10:12; 51:15; Ezekiel 1:22; Zechariah 12:1.
13. Isaiah 64:1.
14. Psalm 102:25.
15. Hebrews 12:26, Haggai 2:6, Isaiah 13:13.
16. 2 Peter 3:12.
17. Revelation 6:14.
18. Hebrews 1:12.
19. Isaiah 34:4.
20. Proverbs 7:9; Jeremiah 6:4.
21. Leviticus 15.
22. Job 4:7.

[bondserv]

It's too bad more people don't see it our way. They always have to have an explanation for everything instead of just taking God at His Word.

Isn't that the God's honest truth! It really is easy enough for a child to understand. "Expert" witnesses take this as a threat to their worldview.

[RaceBannon]

You are still laughing?

When you doubt what it says one place, you have no authority to believe anything else anywhere.

It is either the Word of God os it isnt. So, you answer what it says: six literal days or six indeterminite time periods?

10. Make Your Choice: Genesis or Evolution?
Some people believe that if you make the days of creation ages (long periods of time), then Genesis chapter 1 teaches the same as evolution. They believe that the order of events in Genesis 1 is the same order of events as given by the evolutionists. Let us see if this is really true:

Evolutionists say that the SUN came before the EARTH.
But God says the sun was made on DAY ______ and the earth was made on DAY _____. Therefore the earth is _______ days older than the sun! Was there LIGHT even before the sun was made? _______ On what day was this LIGHT created? DAY _____

Evolutionists say that life must first begin in the sea (in the ocean). They teach that after millions of years some life forms eventually moved onto the land.
But God says life in the ocean appeared on DAY _______ and life on land first appeared on DAY ______ (plant life). Thus, life on land appeared _____ DAYS before life appeared in the oceans (marine life).

Evolutionists say that reptiles came before birds (because they believe that birds evolved from reptiles).
But God says that birds were made on DAY ______ and land animals (which would included land reptiles) were not made until DAY ______. Birds are _____ DAY older than reptiles! Could birds have evolved from reptiles? ______ Certainly reptiles did not evolve from birds! (Not even the evolutionists would say this!). The Bible says God made the birds and God made the reptiles. Reptiles did not precede birds by hundreds of thousands of years.

"Every thinking person knows that birds were created before reptiles, because that is what God has told us in His Word."





Evolutionists say that land mammals came before whales (because they believe that whales evolved from land mammals).
But God says that whales and other great monsters of the sea were created on DAY _____ and land mammals were not made until DAY _____. Which came first, the whale or the pig? _________________ Do you think the whale has evolved from pig-like animals? ________ Therefore whales are ______ DAY older than land mammals! For a land mammal to become a whale he would need to return to the water, lose his hair and grow about 50 times as big! Do you think this really happened? ______ A large elephant (the largest land mammal) weighs about 7 tons! A blue whale (the largest kind of whale) weighs about 150 tons! The whale did not evolve by chance; it was created by God!

Evolutionists say that plant life is impossible without insects because the pollination process (the way plants reproduce) requires insects such as bees.
But God says that insects (creeping things) were not created until DAY _____ and plant life appeared on DAY ______. This means that plant life appeared _______ DAYS before insects. Do you think plants and flowers could survive for 3 ages without insects? ______ Do you think plants and flowers could survive for 3 days without insects? _____

"I was on time! The all-wise Creator created me at just the right time–on the sixth day of the creation week! That’s when I started making honey!!"



Evolutionists say that ape-like creatures came along thousands of years before man (because they believe that man evolved from ape-like creatures).
But God says that men and apes were both created on DAY _______.

Evolutionists say that the sun must have been here before life could begin (because they believe life began as the sun’s rays beat down upon the primitive oceans).
But God says that life (vegetation) appeared on DAY _____ and the sun was not made until DAY ______. It is possible for life to begin without the sun but can life begin without the CREATOR? ______ Who is the source of life, the sun or the CREATOR (see Acts 17:28)? _______ Life owes its existence not to the SUN but to the SON OF GOD (see John 1:3 and Colossians 1:16).

Please indicate on which DAY of creation the following were made:

_______ Whales
_______ God rested on this day
_______ Fish
_______ The earth
_______ The stars
_______ Insects (bees)
_______ Land Reptiles
_______ Trees
_______ Flowers
_______ Monkeys
_______ The Sun
_______ Birds
_______ Elephants


_______ Man
_______ Sharks
_______ Light
_______ Dry Land
_______ Turtles
_______ Firmament
(an expanse of space)
_______ Eagles


You cannot listen to both God and the evolutionists! They do not teach the same thing! If Genesis chapter 1 is true (and it is!), then evolution is false. If evolution is true, then Genesis chapter 1 is false, and the Bible is filled with errors. But the Lord Jesus said that the Word of God is ___________ (John 17:17) and we know that God’s Word is __________ from the ___________________ (Psalm 119:160). Who should you believe — the CREATOR or the evolutionists? Will you put your faith in the false god of the evolutionists who needs billions of years to do his work, or will you put your faith in an Almighty Creator who can create all things in 6 DAYS?

As you observe and study the world around you, you will discover that all the true facts of science and all the true laws of science agree perfectly with the Bible and with the book of Genesis! Do you think it is possible for BOOK 1 (God’s revelation in nature) to contradict BOOK 2 (God’s revelation in His Word)? _______ (see pages 14-21). Who wrote Book 1? __________ Who wrote Book 2? _____________ God is the Author of both! This is why both books say the same thing. And both books point to the greatness of the C________________, who is blessed forever, Amen (see Romans 1:25). Sad to say, the books that the evolutionists write often do not agree with the true facts of science and they certainly do not agree with God’s Word the Bible! CHOOSE you this day! (See Joshua 24:15.) Choose the true God of creation or the false God of the evolutionists (the God of chance)!

[RaceBannon]

NoNoNO!

A day is not a thousand years!!

( I wondered when someone would bring this up...sigh...)

(2 Pet 3:1 KJV) This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance:

(2 Pet 3:2 KJV) That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:

(2 Pet 3:3 KJV) Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,

(2 Pet 3:4 KJV) And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

(2 Pet 3:5 KJV) For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:

(2 Pet 3:6 KJV) Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:

(2 Pet 3:7 KJV) But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

(2 Pet 3:8 KJV) But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

(2 Pet 3:9 KJV) The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.


Read it again, the thousand year/day comment means God does not judge us right away, that God is merciful to us and is willing to wait for us to repent

This passage has NOTHING to do with time/evolution/ or anything that relates to creation!!

Every time Creation and Time is mentioned, it is ALWAYS 6 literal days if any day is mentioned

[mcg1969]

More talk about evolution, huh? Oh well. It's clear now that you're not bothering to listen to what I'm saying.

[bondserv]

The Bible speaks of death in two ways.
1.)A physical bodily death
2.)A spritual death or seperation from God

Does your explaination or understanding take these two meanings into account?

1. Death on the cross.
2. Resurrection into His glorified body.

A believer's spirit, from God's eternal point of view, are sitting in heavenly places in Christ Jesus. We can not fully enjoy the "spiritual life" for while we are trapped in this flesh body we see through a glass darkly. Our battles are in the spirit with spiritual weapons, even though we are still in the sinful flesh.

Eph 2:5-6
5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)
6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:

1 Cor 13:12
12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

Eph 6:12-13
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

Jesus conquered our physical bodily death by dying and resurrecting from the dead. And His sinless shed blood paid for our spiritual death, for without shed blood there is no remission for sin, and thus eternal seperation from God until we accept the gift of salvation that Jesus provided. Everyone's ticket to heaven is waiting for them at will-call, with a simple acknowledgement of Christ's provision one needs only to turn to the direction of will-call (repent) and accept their gift.

Mat 26:28
28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

Heb 9:22
22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.

Acts 10:43
43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.

[bondserv]

Thank you!

[PFKEY]

All good quotes but I don't get your point. Can you elaborate?

[RaceBannon]

I heard and read what you said. You believe that it maters not if evolution is true, or that the 6-day creation is true, all that matters is faithin Christ

Either all the Bible istrue, or none of it is true, that is what I have been saying.

The Bible does not CONTAIN the word of God, it IS the word of God.

You are trying to have it both ways. By saying that the long time periods are acceptable, then yu are saying that on one day of creation, as listed in Scripture, that we had plants for eons of time before we had a Sun.

See it yet? Either it was a 24 hour day of Creation, like the Bible says, or we had an indeterminate time period of a day with plants being created and NO SUN EXISTING.

According to you, this indeterminate time period lasted many millions of years. With no Sun.

Unless you do not agree with the order of creation, which makes you even more a NON-Bible believer.

See my point yet? Either it is all accurate, or it is not accurate.

[Ff--150]

I didn't come from a monkey, an amoeba, or a slug.

I hear you! Let those bird-brains who believe otherwise kept on fantasying while we wave bye-bye one the way up. =-)

[Elsie]

 

That "tree" in Genesis was Satan. Actually, Satan's greatest deception has not happened yet, "he" gets to play the role as "Christ". Do you know which Christ shows up first?

What about that scripture that says that Christ became our sabbath, thus not one day but every day?

 

 

Well... you've given me three more posts that HAVEN'T addressed my question.

 

 

Genesis 2:9 And out of the ground made the Lord God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food;

the tree of life also in the midst of the garden,

and

the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

We have three types of trees described, first for food, second for "life", and the third with "KNOWLEDGE" of good and evil.

115 posted on 11/16/2003 3:12 PM CST by Just mythoughts 

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To: Elsie

Genesis 2:16 And the Lord God commanded the man, (note the woman had not been created yet) saying, "Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:

v. 17 BUT of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die."

How does one eat from a tree that bears KNOWLEDGE of good and evil?

123 posted on 11/16/2003 3:24 PM CST by Just mythoughts 

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To: Elsie

Now just what kind of "TREE" did Adam and EVE use to cover their private parts? "FIG"

Jeremiah talks about good figs and bad figs, Christ himself said to "LEARN the PARABLE OF THE FIG TREE".

and Christ "cursed" the "FIG" tree. So the "FIG" tree tells a story from that Garden of Eden and yet Christ was still talking about it and told us to learn it.

129 posted on 11/16/2003 3:33 PM CST by Just mythoughts

 

Why?

[Ff--150]

The God that created this universe certainly has the power to create it in 6 literal 24 hour days

BINGO! Right answer. He also has the power to make and control time as well.

[Elsie]

Not being Christian, I do not believe that such an event ever occurred.

 

You'll probably get jumped on pretty hard after THIS statement; I'll try to be gentle ;^)

 

 

Well then: since even the great Roman Empire was drawn into His influence, just what DO you believe has caused the obviously illogical following of so many people (in the first century --dang! I can't even get away from Him there...) to worship and adore a blatent fabrication?

 

85 posted on 11/16/2003 1:56 PM CST by Elsie (Don't believe every prophecy you hear: especially *** ones........)

Can I draw you back to my  ORIGINAL question???

[Elsie]

According to Evolutionists, it's the 'opposable thumb' that makes 'man' so great: gives him 'toolmaking' (or at least 'using') ability.

When this supposedly pre-human's inner 'claw' rotated around to position itself so advantageously, it was able to gain ground above the rest of the animals.

I am mocking that 'position statement' by pointing out that lesser and greater apes have 4 thumbs; the implication being that 'The Planet of the Apes' may be in store for 'humans' in the future......

[Elsie]

Right. The earth was populated for many years AFTER "man" was created (Adam (as identified in the story of the garden of Eden) not being seen as the "first man" but the first 'Jewish man"?) but true farming did NOT start until only a few years before the Jewish traditions began in Mesopatomia (-1 sp) ...

 

Actually 'JEWISH' anything did not state UNTIL there was a Tribe of Judah!

Which is how, after Cain was expelled from Adam's family for killing Able, he went to live in different city. if "Adam" was the first man (not the first "Man God selected"), then there couldn't have been a different city already developed.

 

Oh?  That isn't what it says........

 

Genesis 4

 10.  The LORD said, "What have you done? Listen! Your brother's blood cries out to me from the ground.
 11.  Now you are under a curse and driven from the ground, which opened its mouth to receive your brother's blood from your hand.
 12.  When you work the ground, it will no longer yield its crops for you. You will be a restless wanderer on the earth."
 13.  Cain said to the LORD, "My punishment is more than I can bear.
 14.  Today you are driving me from the land, and I will be hidden from your presence; I will be a restless wanderer on the earth, and whoever finds me will kill me."
 15.  But the LORD said to him, "Not so; if anyone kills Cain, he will suffer vengeance seven times over." Then the LORD put a mark on Cain so that no one who found him would kill him.
 16.  So Cain went out from the LORD's presence and lived in the land of Nod,  east of Eden.
 17.  Cain lay with his wife, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Enoch. Cain was then building a city, and he named it after his son Enoch.

[laredo44]

It is a statistical impossibility.

There are impossibilities, but what is a statistical impossibility?

[MrsEmmaPeel]

24 hour day was only a recent invention. To quote the USNO:
Standard time in time zones was not established in U.S. law until the Act of March 19, 1918, sometimes called the Standard Time Act.

[Elsie]

It appears that God is giving a pre-cursor(sp?) to "Thou shall not kill"!

[laredo44]

I am just curious why Lord would express himself in terms of rotation of planet Earth? It is very difficult for me to believe that the six days of creation talk about time in terms of rotation of a single planet around it's axis.

There is not a lot in the first verses of Genesis that makes sense. Plants and trees were made on day 3 but the sun wasn't created till day 4 -- makes you wonder when photosynthesis was installed in the plants. Fish and sea creatures waited till day 5 which completely contradicts all current scientific explanations of the order of life appearing on earth.

[laredo44]

If you question the last 2, you will get to ponder these questions with him (Satan) for eternity...

So God will punish me because I have no faith?

[Elsie]

Why does Mars have 93% of its craters in one hemisphere and only 7% in the other?

 

I had not heard this data before, and it DOES raise some interesting questions: mainly about the game of pool! (Right here in River City!)

 

We've ALL clicked them balls around the table, with varying degrees of success, but consider a cosmic game: one using planets, moons and rocks.

 

It would appear that over 80% occurred within a single half-hour!

 

I suppose this COULD be true, if one made the assumption that MARS was ROTATING at the time, and also that there was a 'shotgun' effect of the crater forming missiles approaching as a fairly coherant grouping.  Remember the breakup of the 'comet' a few years ago that impacted the planet Jupiter?

 

Have the astronomers noticed any change in Jupiters orbit from this?  There HAS to be some change, but perhaps the VAST mass difference between the two would put any change down below the noise theshold of the measurements.

 

Anyway, by ESTIMATING mass of the crater formers on MARS, the astronomers could input this data into their computers and work backward to see where MARS was BEFORE the impacts occured.