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To: billbears
NoNoNO!

A day is not a thousand years!!

( I wondered when someone would bring this up...sigh...)

(2 Pet 3:1 KJV) This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance:

(2 Pet 3:2 KJV) That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:

(2 Pet 3:3 KJV) Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,

(2 Pet 3:4 KJV) And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

(2 Pet 3:5 KJV) For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:

(2 Pet 3:6 KJV) Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:

(2 Pet 3:7 KJV) But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

(2 Pet 3:8 KJV) But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

(2 Pet 3:9 KJV) The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.


Read it again, the thousand year/day comment means God does not judge us right away, that God is merciful to us and is willing to wait for us to repent

This passage has NOTHING to do with time/evolution/ or anything that relates to creation!!

Every time Creation and Time is mentioned, it is ALWAYS 6 literal days if any day is mentioned
183 posted on 11/17/2003 12:32:39 AM PST by RaceBannon
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To: RaceBannon
Thank you!
186 posted on 11/17/2003 1:05:17 AM PST by bondserv (Alignment is critical.)
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To: RaceBannon
Look, I'm not doubting the Bible. I do not believe in evolution either. God created the world. All I'm saying is the Bible clearly states God's ways are not our ways, his thoughts are not our thoughts. I'm not going to say I know exactly how it was done but I believe it was done. I couldn't understand how it was done nor can anyone else. It is beyond our comprehension
212 posted on 11/17/2003 5:16:50 AM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: RaceBannon; billbears
"Every time Creation and Time is mentioned, it is ALWAYS 6 literal days if any day is mentioned"

Not necessarily so. While I believe the "Six Days" was a literal measure of time, the question is from whose perspective was it measured?

Genesis Ch.2 V.4 "These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,"

Genesis Ch.2 V.17 "But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die."

Clearly the use of "DAY" does not refer to a 24 hour span of time - from our perspective, nor does it mean that in any of the other instances where "in the day that" is used.

Ecclesiastes Ch.3 V.15 "That which hath been is now; and that which is to be hath already been; and God requireth that which is past."

Time doesn't appear to be "linear" in its form as viewed by the Sovereign. It, too, is the created, subject to the Creator. If Moses transcribed God's words as He spoke them, the translation of DAY from God's POV to Moses' POV, and subsequently ours, would definitely have had different meanings. (In the first few "DAYS" of creation, there wouldn't have been the capacity to measure a "day" as 24 hours relative to the sun and earth.)

However, God gave His word of truth to the patriarch Moses and "Six Days" are the spoken word. Since the prince of this world is Satan, the Deciever and father of lies, it's possible for Satan to use every ploy to decieve those who would trust their own sight rather than believe God's word. None living has seen God, yet we believe He is. We see an "Aged Earth", but it could be we see a Universe that "appears" as what it is not - like a hologram appears to have more dimension than there actually is.

The final question is do we live by faith or by sight. If we live by sight, then belief in God's being is questionable. If we live by faith in God's spoken word, then God's word should have more influence over our perception of the world. Whether "DAY" is 24 hours or 24 million years becomes irrelevant. It's the same mincing of words Satan did with Eve in telling her "surely you will not die" when he knew she wouldn't die immediately....

218 posted on 11/17/2003 7:12:54 AM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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