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Be still, and know that I am God: (Ps. 46:10a)

1 posted on 11/14/2003 2:06:58 AM PST by sweetliberty
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Ping!
2 posted on 11/14/2003 2:08:54 AM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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BUMP
3 posted on 11/14/2003 2:22:45 AM PST by nickcarraway (www.terrisfight.org)
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A "Painless" Death? (another great Wesley Smith article)

A "Painless" Death? Michael Schiavo insists that dehydration is "the most natural way to die." It's more like torture. (At Weekly Standard site)

4 posted on 11/14/2003 2:26:11 AM PST by nickcarraway (www.terrisfight.org)
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To: sweetliberty
Remove Dennis Kucinich's Feeding Tube! (Terry Schiavo's Case By Ann Coulter!)
5 posted on 11/14/2003 2:27:54 AM PST by nickcarraway (www.terrisfight.org)
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To: sweetliberty; pollywog; MarMema; HiTech RedNeck
Here is another guy that we should be watching over this Pro Lefe-Pro Death issue as well as for his anti Bush pro DemocRAT activities.

"George Soros' Agenda for Drug Legalization, Death, and Welfare"

Publisert 1997-01-15

Described by the New York Times as "The world's single largest donor" (Dec. 17,1996), Soros uses his philanthropy to change - or more accurately deconstruct - the moral values and attitudes of the Western world, and particularly of the American people. While others give to the arts and higher education or to better the quality of the lives of their fellow men, Soros funds campaigns for euthanasia and to legalize illegal drugs.
Rachel Ehrenfeld, Author, New York, USA
"I am sort of deus ex machina- I am something unnatural," George Soros says of himself.

Described by the New York Times as "The world's single largest donor" (Dec. 17,1996), Soros uses his philanthropy to change - or more accurately deconstruct - the moral values and attitudes of the Western world, and particularly of the American people. While others give to the arts and higher education or to better the quality of the lives of their fellow men, Soros funds campaigns for euthanasia and to legalize illegal drugs.

George Soros, who made billions plying the markets, last month set himself up as its strongest opponent in an Atlantic Monthly article titled "The Capitalist Threat." He writes that "Totalitarian ideologies like communism and Nazism have a common element: they claim to be in possession of the ultimate truth." He observes that laissez faire capitalism makes the same claim as well. Admitting, that Communism and Nazism were murderous, he nonetheless asserts that laissez-faire capitalism poses a future menace greater than both.

Soros' article is intellectually incoherent. In his critique of capitalism's failings he makes reference to the famous Austrian economist FA Haiku as well as Adam Smith, the father of modern economics. Yet he neglects to mention that both Haiku and Smith believed that a moral society is a prerequisite for a capitalistic system; the two go hand in hand.

Soros concludes that "the time is right for developing a conceptual framework based on our fallibility." It would have been refreshing had be acknowledged his own fallibility. Unfortunately, Soros' financial success has persuaded the American media and an unsuspecting public to pay attention to his vacant philosophizing. That success is also underwriting some very regrettable grant making that is already making its mark on public policy - and undermining the moral foundation that supports our capitalist economy.

Drug Legalization
The May 1996 issue of Organization Trends reviewed Soros' extensive financial support for nonprofit organizations working for the legalization of drugs. Soros says that his overarching goal is to promote informed discussion of drug policy. But debate and discussion are not his objects. Instead, he is using his philanthropy to muddle public opinion and to change public laws to make illegal drug use legal.

According to Soros, "the war on drugs is doing, more harm to our society than drug abuse itself," and since "substance abuse is endemic in most societies... the war on drugs cannot be won." (See Washington Post, Dec. 4, 1996 and Feb. 2, 1997). Because prohibitionist drug policies contradict his vision of "The Open Society," Soros concludes that they are wrong, and be has launched a vast public relations campaign that has made him the new darling of the media Left. Soros and his acolytes have garnered enormous press attention through a barrage of magazine articles, op-ed pieces, and television appearances.

Three years of spending millions of dollars on a campaign to legalize drugs is finally producing results. The terminology of drug "medicalization" has joined "legalization" and talk about the so-called "non-violent drug offender" in the lexicon of public dialogue. Drugs continue to wreak murder, violence, and mayhem in homes and streets all over America. But the White House's policy of divorcing drugs from crime is what Soros promotes. This notion has gone unchallenged and is embraced by the media.

With the canniness of an aggressive businessman, George Soros has assembled, advised and financed a management team to overcome the common sense of the American public. By constant reference to safe use or use to relieve suffering, these promoters are succeeding in making use of illicit drugs appear to be acceptable conduct.

California's Compassion Campaign
Soros played the most important supporting role in the campaign for the passage of pro-drug legalization laws in California and Arizona. His fame and fortune lent credibility and respectability to the campaigns for California's Proposition 215 and Arizona's Proposition 200. both of which passed last November. Soros' checkbook advocacy and advanced marketing techniques enabled the forces of drug legalization to blitz those states with ad campaigns endorsing "compassion" that were designed to play to voter sympathies. They also are apt to encourage other wealthy individuals to throw in the towel in the war on drugs and contribute more money to legalization efforts.

Emboldened, Soros is now eager to take his crusade on the road. Celebrating his victory, be wrote a February 2, 1997 Washington Post op-ed which proclaimed, "I hope that other states will follow suit. I shall be happy to support (with after tax dollars) some of these efforts." Pro-legalization forces are targeting the following states for drug legalization campaigns in 1997: Alabama, Alaska, Arkansas, Colorado, Connecticut, District of Columbia, Florida, Hawaii, Iowa, Massachusetts, Michican, Minnesota, Missouri, New York, Ohio, Oregon, Texas. Tennessee. Vermont and Washington. Another 17 states have been targeted for 1998.

Last November an expensive public relations package made all the difference in swaying voter opinion. In California, advertisements featured desperately ill often elderly end-stage patients or their survivors pleading for "compassion" in their final days. The public was urged to regard Prop. 215 as a humane measure which would allow physicians to use marijuana to treat cancer and AIDS patients and other seriously ill people. But although proponents called themselves "Californians for Medical Rights," they received mostly from George Soros, with other out-of-state supporters, 68 percent of the $2 million that went to finance their campaign. What they did not advertise is that the initiative does not limit marijuana use to AIDS or cancer. Instead, it is allowed "for any other illness for which marijuana provides relief." Headaches and upset stomach, stress, PMS, depression, writer's cramp. No written prescription is required. There are no age limitations placed on users. Minors, felons, even ail inmates can smoke, possess or cultivate unlimited quantities of marijuana on the verbal recommendation of any physician. There are no restrictions on where marijuana can be smoked. Indeed, it would pen-nit marijuana smoking in public places or the workplace which otherwise are "smoke-free."

Cigarette smoking has been vilified following reports that the carcinogen benzo(a)pyrene, which is found in cigarette smoke, causes cellular changes that lead to cancer. Yet legalizers seem unconcerned about the health hazard of marijuana smoking. They should be. Benzo(a)pyrene is present in nearly 50 percent greater concentration in marijuana smoke, a deep-lung smoke that causes greater damage from its heat and greater absorption of smoke gases and particles into lung tissue.

According to the California law, physicians can recommend marijuana use. But most physicians have received little or no education about illegal drugs, other than the treatment of symptoms. At least 10,000 scientific studies have been conducted at reputable universities and laboratories around the world. The vast majority of the findings reject the "therapeutic" use of marijuana for any of the conditions for which the legalizers tout it. But how many physicians will take the time to review the literature each time a patient comes in with a medical complaint and asks for a doctor's "advice" to use marijuana?

In 1994, the National Institutes of Health reviewed the research on medicinal use of marijuana for the treatment of nausea and vomiting associated with chemotherapy, weight loss associated with AIDS, glaucoma, muscle spasticy and multiple sclerosis, and intractable pain. The conclusion cited by Health and Human Services Secretary Donna Shama stated that "all available research has concluded that marijuana is dangerous to our health ... [it] harms the brain, heart, lungs and immune system." (Despite this readily available information, the Clinton administration recently provided $1 million to several researchers "to review the scientific literature" on medicinal use of marijuana.)

Arizona's Tough On Crime Campaign
Arizona's initiative differed from California's, as did its more than $1.5 million ad campaign. In Arizona, out-of-state contributors represented over 70 percent of the total expenditure on the campaign. The Arizona measure was brazenly sold as a tough on-crime initiative. The language of Proposition 200 calls for multiple offenders of state drug, laws to serve their full sentences. But it prohibits judges from sending non-violent drug, offenders to prison until their third offence. In other words, '2-strikes-and you're out' - of jail. Moreover, the initiative is not limited to "medical" marijuana. It allows physicians to prescribe any of the 117 currently illicit (schedule 1) drugs. This includes LSD, heroin, crack cocaine, and methamphetamine, none of which have received FDA approval or possess any recognized medical benefit. The law simply requires a written prescription and the concurrence of two physicians.

If the Arizona pro-legalizers' agenda was only to permit marijuana use for medical purposes, they could have brought it before the FDA for approval like any other medicine in question. But proponents know that what they want will never win FDA approval. Their objective is to legalize and legitimize addictive drugs, a step that will compromise the practice of safe medical standards in the U.S.

A paymaster rather than a philanthropist, George Soros has been joined by other wealthy contributors in bankrolling the pro-drug legalization movement. Soros' total contributions to "medical marijuana initiatives" was $980,000 in 1996. $550,000 was spent in California and $430,000 in Arizona. Another $325,000 in Soros' money went to fund pro-legalization organizations or their employees (CA-$25,000 and AZ$300,000). Other major contributors included John Sperling of Arizona (CA$200,000 and AZ-$430,000), Peter Louis of Cleveland (CA-$500,000 and AZ$330,000), Laurence Rockefeller (CA$50,000), The Dennis Tradinc, Group Inc, (CA-$ I 00,000), George Zimmer of California (CA-$ I 00,000 and $160,000, either repaid or forgiven), James Zimmer of Houston (CA-$25,000), Rich Goldman of Freemont, California (CA-$25011.25, in stock), Richard Wolf of Florida (CA-$10,000 and AZ-$25.000), and the Life Aids Lobby of Sacramento (CA-$344,750).

It should be noted that in California about 68 percent of the money to finance the initiative came from a few out-of-state contributors.

Clinton Administration Response
Almost two months after the election, the Clinton administration finally offered a belated response to drug legalization supporters. In a much-publicized December 30, 1996 press conference Drug Czar Gen. Barry R. McCaffrey, Attorney General Janet Reno and HHS Secretary Shalala attempted to suggest that the Administration was strongly opposed to "medical" marijuana laws. Gen. McCaffrey's strong statement that "these propositions are not about compassion, they are about legalizing dangerous drugs," would have carried more weight had the administration immediately challenged the legality of the new "medicinal drug" laws in California and Arizona. But tour months later, the Justice Department still seems reluctant to challenge the new state laws, which put the U.S. in violation of international agreements regarding the abuse of illegal drugs, marijuana included, which the U.S. signed and in most instances initiated.

Instead of holding that marijuana does not constitute a medicine, a position widely held in medical and pharmaceutical circles, the Administration has promised to "take into count whether a true doctor-patient relationship existed" before illegal drugs were prescribed. It has threatened to sanction physicians who would prescribe such "medicine" without having a prior relationship with their patients. It is not at all clear how such a relationship will be determined, how sanctions will be implemented, and who will supply the drugs that will otherwise remain illegal.

Project Death in America
Many Americans who worry about the unravelling of our social and moral order will not be persuaded by political campaigns for drug-legalization and medical marijuana use. They also will wonder why a man as successful as George Soros is so consumed by this issue. Their disturbance will only be deepened when they become aware of another Soros passion: euthanasia. In 1994 Soros introduced to the public his Death in America project. He observe , ' America, the land of the perpetually young growing older is an embarrassment, and dying is a failure. Death has replaced sex as the taboo subject of our times. People compete to appear on talk shows to discuss the most intimate details of their sex lives, but they have nothing to say about dying, which in its immensity dwarfs the momentary pleasures of sex." Soros provided $15 million in initial funding for Project Death in America (PDIA), whose headquarters are located at Columbia University's College of Physicians & Surgeons.

Soros has attributed his interest in this issue to his late father. In an interview with the New Yorker (January 23, 1995), Soros recounted his father's battle with cancer and voiced disapproval at the senior Soros's unwillingness to die. According to Soros, his father "...unfortunately wanted to live... I was kind of disappointed in him ... I wrote him off." George Soros's promotion of death can also be traced to his mother, who as a member of the Hemlock Society (a pro suicide organisation committed suicide.

Project Death in America (PDIA) is a grant making foundation that supports euthanasia and physician-assisted suicide. Its mission is "to transform the culture of dying." Soros has acknowledged that "legalizing euthanasia could have unintended consequences, leading to all kind of abuses ... but... aggressive, life-prolonging interventions, which may at times go against the patient's wishes, are much more expensive..."

In 1995 the PDIA funded 43 programs, and it selected 13 faculty scholars "to begin forming a network of doctors that will eventually reach into one-fourth of America's hospitals and lead to ... the creation of innovative models of care and the development of new curricula on dying." The Director of PDIA is Kathleen M. Foley, M.D., who is the chief of pain service at the Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center.

Some PDIA-funded programs appear to do little more than enlist the forces of political correctness in the new approach towards death. According to the Open Society Institute's site on the Intemet, "Health Force: Women and Men Against AIDS" helps grieving individuals write "Dear Death" letters as a way of coming to terms with their loss. Native Americans are served by a PDIA grant to the Ellen Stephen Hospice. which has been funded to expand its services at South Dakota's Pine Ridge Indian Reservation to become a national model for Native Americans.

But Soros' intentions are far more ominous. For the moment Australia's vast but little-populated Northern Territory is the only place where Soros' checkbook advocacy has attained its goal of legal physician assisted suicide. Local opponents of euthanasia say Soros is behind the legal struggle there. A law was passed in 1996 permitting physician-assisted suicide. Despite vocal opposition from local physicians, the first two acts of assisted suicide occurred in early February, 1997. In addition, the Australian media has carried stories of patients being pressured to accept euthanasia, and successful advocates predict its eventual legalization in the rest of Australia.

As with the campaign for "medical marijuana," euthanasia is depicted as an act of compassion for the individual against the ignorance and bigotry of society. This tactic easily fits the preconceptions of the media habituated to portraying political and legal challenges to existing prohibitions as reform movements. "The holocausts of the 2Oth century," writes scholar David Walsh in an excellent essay, The Compassion Juggernaut, "have all been committed by people who saw themselves as humanitarians. Compassion has been the road to unlimited cruelty."

In November 1996. the Open Society Institute's web site reported on Soros ' Project Death. It noted that "the Institute of Medicine of the National Institutes of Health, with PDIA's urging and support, held its first meeting on care at the end of life. Its examination and evaluation of the quality of care for the terminally ill will result in recommendations to policy makers and practitioners on steps to be taken to improve the delivery of services." (The "services" referred to are assisted suicide.)

In the Netherlands, where medical euthanasia has been "unofficially" permitted for several decades, the government has claimed that the system works so well that they may further expand it. But there are also media reports of increasing numbers of involuntary assisted deaths. And patients have complained that they have been pressured to end the burden that their lives represent to their families and the unnecessary expense they impose on the medical system. The elderly fear going to hospitals.

Soros' philanthropy is beginning to pay off
Last year, two federal appeals courts struck down laws banning assisted suicide, holding that there exists a "constitutional" right for physician-assisted suicide. These two cases were recently argued together before the U.S. Supreme Court and are awaiting decision. Already, Washington and Oregon have passed "physician assisted suicide" laws.

If how we respond to legalized euthanasia takes the same course as California voters' attitudes to "medical marijuana," then all Americans may soon have the right to drug themselves and others to death. This is not just a joke for a comedian's late night talk show. Physicians, no longer bound by the Hippocratic oath, will have the authority to mix their professional judgement with political expedience and economic self-interest to decide whose time is up.

Emma Lazarus Fund Grants 1996
Asian American Legal Defense and Education Fund, NYC, $150,000 Asian Law Caucus, San Francisco, $150,000
Asian Pacific American Legal Center of Southern California, Los Angeles, $200,000
Catholic Legal Immigration Network, Washington DC, $3 million ,Fund for New Citizens, NYC, $2.5 million
Immigrant Legal Resource Center, San Francisco, $500,000
National Asian Pacific American Legal Consortium, Washington, DC, $500,000
National Association of Latino Elected & Appointed Officials Educational Fund,
Los Angeles, $750,000
National Council of La Raza, Washington D.C., $1 million
National Immegration Law Center, Los Angeles, $1 million
National Immigration Forum, Washington DC, $200,000
National Citizenship and Welfare Collaborative of the Immigration Coalitions.
Boston, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Chicago, New York and Dallas, $750,000
New York Association for New Americans, New York, $150,000
Travelers' Aid of New York, NY, $2 I 0,000
ACLU Immigrants' Rights Project, San Francisco, $200,000
Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights of Los Angeles, Los Angeles, $80,000
Illinois Coalition for Immigrant/Refugee Protection, Chicago, $100,000
Massachusetts Immigrant and Refugee Advocacy Coalition, Boston, $80,000
New York Immigration Coalition, NYC, $100,000
Northern California Coalition for Immigrant Rights, San Francisco, $100,000
Texas Immigration and Refugee Coalition, Dallas, $100,000
Urban Institute, Washington DC, $50,000
Fuelling the Welfare Lobby
In our own time mistaken approaches to civil liberties questions frequently have gone hand-in-hand with support for increasing government entitlements programs. For George Soros radical individualism and egalitarian redistribution have been joined in his most recent philanthropic pursuit: preserving the welfare- system. In late 1996 the Hungarian-born Soros announced that he bad decided to focus attention on the U.S., his "adopted country." "Appalled" by the passage of welfare reform legislation, he created the Emma Lazarus Fund, a $50 million grant making program which is yet another appendage of the Open Society Institute (OSI), Soros' umbrella organisation. One unobjectionable purpose of the Fund is to provide vocational training for legal immigrants applying for U.S. naturalisation.

However, most of $11.8 million in grants which has been awarded to date has gone to nonprofit legal services groups committed to undermining, provisions of the welfare reform legislation ending immigrant entitlements (see box). According to OSI literature, the Fund "supports organisations engaged in 'advocacy, policy, and impact litigation strategies on behalf of aliens who are lawfully present in the United States."

Arguing that the new laws on welfare reform are antithetical to the values of an Open Society, Soros is attempting to bypass or overturn their allegedly discriminatory provisions. He reveals a strategy that sows the seeds for potential voter fraud when he asserts, "The Fund supports activities related directly to the citizenship application process as well as English as a second language and civic instructions associated with the preparation for the citizenship exam." Last year's elections were marked by countless stories of voter fraud related to the registration and voting of immigrants. Critics accuse the Clinton administration of deliberately naturalizing thousands of new citizens (many with criminal backgrounds) so that they could vote in the November elections. Likewise, in California and elsewhere various get-out-the-vote groups were apparently responsible for widespread voting by illegal immigrants.

Additionally, the Chronicle of Philanthropy has reported (Nov. 12, 1996) that Soros "hopes to reduce the rate of teenage pregnancy . . . He also wants to support programs that further abortion rights and increase access to birth control devices."

It turns out that Soros is actually a creature of the left. an ACLU, rights-oriented liberal with a lot of cash. His "open society" is not about freedom; it is about license. His vision rejects the notion of ordered liberty in favor of an ideology of rights and entitlements.

The Soros who declares, "1 fancied myself as some kind of God," appears determined to replace Judeo-Christian moral values with the rules of his "Open Society." His policy agenda is the extension of his motto, "If I spend enough, I will make it right." History has proved again and again that such thinking produces disastrous results. Unless George Soros is challenged, he and those who support his positions will win and the American people will lose.

Permission to reprint is granted, provided credit is given to the Capital Research Center.

People like George Soros, Bill Gates, Marry Labyak and George Felos make me reach for the REANOLDS WRAP whenever their namees are mentioned.


8 posted on 11/14/2003 3:13:39 AM PST by Coral Snake (deathculture(HospiceOf TheFlorida$uncoast == Andersonville + Aushwitz)
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To: sweetliberty
Oregon Bishop Speaks Out in the Case of Terri Schiavo
9 posted on 11/14/2003 3:17:48 AM PST by nickcarraway (www.terrisfight.org)
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To: sweetliberty
Amen,.........More Grace and Mercy,........In Jesus' Precious Name, Amen!!!
12 posted on 11/14/2003 4:02:54 AM PST by maestro
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To: sweetliberty
FYI-Oprah is going to be discussing the case today (along with a few other topics)
13 posted on 11/14/2003 4:12:42 AM PST by Tiger28
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To: sweetliberty; cyn

May angels seen and unseen continue to guard, protect, and strengthen you.


14 posted on 11/14/2003 4:23:52 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: sweetliberty
Good morning. What a day this will be. Per Bay News 9, Jeb Bush is meeting with GAL Jay Wolfson to discuss expanding GAL's role beyond a swallow test. Diane Coleman of Not Dead Yet is in a forum vs. Atty Felos at the Tiger Bay Luncheon today at 12:00 or 12:30 p.m. Bay News 9 will carry it live - check your streaming at their web site. TERRI'S FIGHT WILL BE ON OPRAH today, Friday. The SCHINDLERS will be on Larry King Live Tonight at 9:00 pm.

We are vigiling tonight. Terri's supporter who loves birds brought her Gray Parrot last night instead of her chicken.

16 posted on 11/14/2003 4:38:58 AM PST by floriduh voter (Breaking at baynews9.com...conservative-spirit.org FR Site)
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Voice of the People, PressofAtlanticCity.com

What happened to 'right to life'?

The story of Terri Schiavo is very sad. When the "right to die'' was put forward, we were shown people all connected to tubes and machines that breathed for them, kept their heart going, kept them alive when their brain was dead. Now we see people with eyes open, breathing on their own, not brain dead, just disabled, and we want to put them out of their - or should I say our - misery by starving and dehydrating them.

I understand the judge said no more pictures were to be taken. Why? Because we might see the agony of a person who is slowly dehydrated and starved?

Even animals are not slowly "put down.'' Put a TV camera in her room so we can see where our right to life has gone.

I know of three people - friends - who were put out of their misery in the last few years, and they were not on any machines.

Someone once said, "There are no slippery slopes toward loss of liberties, only a long staircase where each step downward must first be tolerated by the American people and their leaders.''

Are the barbarians already in control? May God help us.

EILEEN T.

Sea Isle City

27 posted on 11/14/2003 8:33:14 AM PST by msmagoo
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UPDATE FROM PETE VERE

Just got off the phone with Msgr. Malanowski.  Only have a few minutes left on my lunch break, so here goes...

1) Terri is looking a heck of a lot better.  She seems more alert now and responds to different people in different ways.  She smiled at Monsignor when he spoke to her the other day.  She also seemed very alert.

2) Governor Bush is meeting with Terri's new guardian ad litem today.  Reportedly the guardian ad litem has faithfully visited Terri on an almost daily basis.  So he may turn out to be better than what was initially thought.

3) Terri's mom and sister will be on Oprah today at 4 pm.

4) Terri's parents are scheduled for Larry King Live tonight.

5) Please keep praying for Terri and her family.

Envoy Magazine

TERRI SCHIAVO PING! ­ let me know if you want on/off this ping list


74 posted on 11/14/2003 10:44:14 AM PST by NYer ("Close your ears to the whisperings of hell and bravely oppose its onslaughts." ---St Clare Assisi)
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To: sweetliberty
Judges are now running much of this contry, making obviously illegal decisions. Yet they are getting away with it. Our emerging dictators: the Judges. Supreme O'Conner already said she wasn't about to follow the Constitution.
119 posted on 11/14/2003 11:31:11 AM PST by Dante3
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I just received this in my email. This is the kind of moral reprobates we're dealing with.

Sadly, last month Terri Schiavo's prayer guestbook was desecrated with a hacker who put in porn and obscene references to Terri. Over 215 pages of prayers and well wishings from hundreds of loving individuals were destroyed. They would have been such a comfort to her family.

Now we have added a new guestbook, hopefully it will be secure. Please go to www.prayforterri.net and add in a little prayer for her survival and for her getting her much needed therapy. So many miracles have been occurring already! See Terri surrounded with protective and healing angels; see her becoming more awake and aware, and acknowledging all her warriors, both angelic and here!

Thank you so much for all your loving concern!

232 posted on 11/14/2003 2:51:44 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: sweetliberty
Do we perhaps need to coordinate a plan of letter-writing to the Florida legislature to suggest that while Terri's law was a good immediate step, further action must be taken soon to prevent the corrupt judiciary from starving/dehydrating Terri again?

I'd suggest a couple of points of attack:

I can see no constitutional issues whatsoever with any but the first, and even that should pass constitutional muster given that the existing guardianship laws already include language which makes clear that guardianship may be denied in some cases based upon actions taken before guardianship rules went into effect.

What do others think of those proposals?

335 posted on 11/14/2003 7:15:50 PM PST by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
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LIFE AND DEATH TUG OF WAR - Terri's family appeals to Oprah fans - Mother, brother, sister mount TV campaign to counter husband
409 posted on 11/14/2003 10:37:52 PM PST by JustPiper (18 out of 19 HiJacker's had State issued Driver's License's !!!)
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To: sweetliberty
Remember the Lizzie Borden jingle? Perhaps Michael, George and George should have jingles too, especially if they get away with murder (as Lizzie probably did; she was not convicted). Here's a start. Other doggerel invited :-)

Michael Schiavo beats his wife,
Chokes her till he wrecks her life.
Steals her money, puts her down,
Starves her dead and goes to town.

Georgie Greer, your soul is black,
You pick on girls who can't fight back.
When Terri begged Communion Bread,
You pulled her feeding tube instead.

447 posted on 11/15/2003 4:51:46 AM PST by T'wit
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To: sweetliberty
CALL TO ACTION NEEDED...per conversation this am with the Schindler's rep........
I really think it's time to call for a grand jury.
Bernie McCabe, State Attorney for Sixth Judicial Circuit.
And slamming him with calls and mails will make him move?
"yes!"
Bernie has escaped so far.
And he is the logical one to investigate that.
It's his responsibility.
Uncover him.
Withholding food from a disabled person is a FELONY!
And there is no court order to do that!
No judge can authorize a person to commit a felony.
Withholding food is Michael's idea.
The court order was to remove the tube. That's what was done.
There is no outstanding court order.
And Baird can't enter a new order.
So I guess Felos will be back before Greer the instant Terri's Law is declared unconstitutional.
Baird does not have the tube removal issue before him.
He's only been asked to rule on the statute.
will they not appeal it?
Of course.
We filed our Notice of Appeal yesterday.
on Baird's ruling that Schindlers can't be parties.
In fact, his order yesterday did not take into account Terri's OTHER constitutional rights.
A perfect example of why the parents should be parties.

Well, the GAL is proceeding as is the Advocacy Center is investigating.
The g'ship is proceeding...
Filing our FOURTH motion to disqualify Judge Greer.
What kind of dirt would you like for us to dig up to get him removed?
No dirt-digging is required.
His orders speak for themselves.
Last week, once again he had an ex parte conversation with someone about the case.
He just does not get it.
Isn't that against the law.
Yes, of course.
As citizens we want something to slam him with...file a complaint to get him out....
That would be the 2d DCA.
The JCQ does not move fast enough.
Well, they are the ones who mete out discipline.
The Second DCA must reverse him and remove him on this ex parte stuff.

Please lean on McCabe. He needs to show some courage.
but beware! He's long-time friends with Greer.

After sending several emails to McCabe to nail down his email address, I think I finally got it.
Criminal investigation
Empanel a grand jury
Investigate the guardianship program
berniemccabe@fdle.state.fl.us

These are the statutes violated regarding Terri.
Florida Statutes 744.474, 744.3215, 415.102, 765.102, 744.3675, 744.361, 744.446, 435.03, 798.01, 798.02, 415.111, 744.309, have all been violated and abused, and these violations and abuse condoned by the courts in this state. Terri's basic hygienic needs have been neglected and compromised by her husband for years. Her therapy has been neglected, and this is abusive, not only by her husband, but by the institutions where she has been housed. Laws have been broken here.

And these.
825.102; 825.103; 876.05; 876.22 - .31; 765.1115; 415.1034

Also, Baird is pissed at JEB. Good sign. JEB refuses to be stampeded.


499 posted on 11/15/2003 9:30:41 AM PST by KDubRN
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To: sweetliberty
Terri Schiavo's Fight
512 posted on 11/15/2003 10:12:23 AM PST by nickcarraway (www.terrisfight.org)
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To: sweetliberty
Court Issues New Stay in Schiavo Case
651 posted on 11/16/2003 12:32:25 AM PST by nickcarraway (www.terrisfight.org)
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