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Partnership ends over Scouts exclusion of gays
<i>The Austin American- Statesman</i> ^ | 11/13/03 | Andrea Ball

Posted on 11/13/2003 7:41:48 AM PST by WinOne4TheGipper

After a 76-year partnership, the United Way Capital Area and the Boy Scouts are parting ways because the Scouts organization excludes gays.

"Our value is that we raise money from the entire community," said Clarke Heidrick, chairman of the United Way board. "We need to allocate the money to agencies that serve the entire community."

Boy Scouts of America, Capital Area Council, will lose approximately $157,000 a year, a little more than 5 percent of its $2.9 million budget. The group will ask its supporters to make up that loss with additional contributions, said Bruce Walcutt, the organization's president.

"Frankly, the Boy Scouts are a resourceful bunch," he said. "That's what we're taught to be. We'll continue to keep our programs alive."

Under the terms of an agreement unanimously approved Wednesday by the United Way board, the Scouts will remain a partner agency until June 30, 2004 and will receive about $157,000. Then -- although it will no longer be affiliated with the United Way -- the group will receive another $157,000 for 2005 as transition funding, Heidrick said. Then funding will stop.

Both sides say the split is amicable. The Boy Scouts have been a United Way Capital Area partner since 1927.

"The Scouts have conducted themselves very honorably during this process," Heidrick said.

Wednesday's decision comes after more than two years of discussion.

In June 2000, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the Boy Scouts have the right to exclude gays.

That decision spurred more than 50 local United Ways to change their relationship with the Scouts.

Some immediately cut ties with the group. Some phased out funding.

Others started working with Learning for Life, a Boy Scout-affiliated organization that allows gays to participate in its programs.

Many have remained firm supporters of the Scouts, which provides educational programs focused on character, citizenship and personal fitness.

United Way of America, the parent organization to the 1,400 affiliates across the country, did not take a position on the issue.

"We're convinced that's a decision that needs to be made on the local level," said Philip Jones, spokesman for the United Way of America.

After the 2000 court ruling, United Way Capital Area -- which raises money for 44 health and human service organizations -- scrutinized requirements for its agencies.

In March 2002, the board adopted an inclusion policy requiring all partner agencies to serve people without regard to issues such as race, color, gender or sexual orientation.

Of the 44 groups, 43 were in compliance with the policy. But the Boy Scouts organization was in violation because it does not accept "avowed homosexuals," according to the Scout's literature.

United Way and Boy Scouts officials met several times, then agreed to a friendly divorce.

Donors -- who can use the United Way to donate to any 501(c)(3) nonprofit registered with the IRS -- will still be able to give to the Scouts through their workplace campaigns.

But the Scouts will not be entitled to money raised through the United Way's community investment fund, which totaled $4.1 million last year.

The Scouts received about $157,000 from that fund in 2002.

"It's a big deal," Walcutt said. "We have a lot of supporters in Central Texas and we're going to ask them to do more."

Randall Ellis, executive director of the Lesbian/Gay Rights Lobby of Texas, called the split a "bold step" for the United Way.

"It will go a long way to fostering tolerance and acceptance in Central Texas," he said.

Others say the United Way's decision smacks of political pressure that will hurt families.

"I think what it says about the United Way is that they are easily intimidated by a very politically active homosexual lobby that pushes a homosexual agenda," said Cathie Adams, president of the Texas Eagle Forum, a Dallas-based conservative group. "It's a travesty."

Heidrick said the United Way did not receive pressure to cut ties with the Boy Scouts.

The group cannot determine whether it has lost donations because of its affiliation with the Scouts, he said.

The Boy Scouts will remain a partner agency of the Georgetown Area United Way and the United Way of Hays County.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: boyscouts; bsa; charities; gay; homosexualagenda; lavendermafia; prisoners; unitedway
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1 posted on 11/13/2003 7:41:49 AM PST by WinOne4TheGipper
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To: will1776
http://216.239.41.104/search?q=cache:ncxtSU-3VFcJ:www.uway-austin.org/+United+Way+Capital+Area&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
2 posted on 11/13/2003 7:45:41 AM PST by kcvl
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To: will1776
Simple ..... boycott the United Way... from now on. Tell your boss when he tries to extort money for "corporate" that you'll give to you boss's favorite charity in his/her name.
3 posted on 11/13/2003 7:46:27 AM PST by Dick Vomer (liberals suck....but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is .)
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To: will1776
"We need to allocate the money to agencies that serve the entire community."

Something tells me that they allocate money to agencies NOW that don't serve "the entire community." They also indicate that they received NO pressure to part ways with the BSA. I think they lie on both counts.

4 posted on 11/13/2003 7:46:51 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Dick Vomer
Never give any money to the United Way!!!!
5 posted on 11/13/2003 7:47:04 AM PST by Dick Vomer (liberals suck....but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is .)
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To: will1776
INTREP - UNITED WAY - Shame on them for calling evil good!
6 posted on 11/13/2003 7:47:35 AM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: will1776
A Boy Scout and his father knocked my door the other day.

I wrote them a check, precisely because the United Way is part of the Gaystapo.
7 posted on 11/13/2003 7:49:53 AM PST by Guillermo (Proud Infidel)
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To: will1776
remember to exclude the united way from your holiday payroll contributions in rememberance of how they are a dividing factor in American society rather than united. An example of another once fine organization being hijacked and attempting to hijack and hold hostage another Still Fine Organization, the BSA!
8 posted on 11/13/2003 7:53:06 AM PST by o_zarkman44
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To: Dick Vomer
Or better yet, make a donation directly to the Boy Scouts.
9 posted on 11/13/2003 7:53:55 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: kcvl
Any way we can ship Austin to the left coast where it belongs? I'm embarrased to say it's the capital of Texas. Maybe we can relocate the capital building to Abilene, San Angelo or even Amarillo.
10 posted on 11/13/2003 7:57:00 AM PST by ladtx ( "Remember your regiment and follow your officers." Captain Charles May, 2d Dragoons, 9 May 1846)
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To: will1776
The Scouts received about $157,000 from that fund in 2002.

I bet the Scouts make up a whole lot more than $157k when this is publicized, and that the UW loses a whole lot more.

11 posted on 11/13/2003 7:58:21 AM PST by TontoKowalski
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To: will1776
Support Scouting

Scouting makes a direct and positive impact on your community by teaching positive values and leadership skills to youth. Join the individuals, corporations, and foundations who support Scouting's mission.

12 posted on 11/13/2003 7:59:48 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Dick Vomer
I quit giving to them years ago, and I'm glad I did. I would rather give my money to someone I know personally, or hear of, that is going thru a tough time, than give it to a corrupt corporation like the United Way.
13 posted on 11/13/2003 8:00:30 AM PST by Lijahsbubbe ("I'm not going to have some reporters pawing through our papers We are the president." -Hilary)
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To: will1776
The only value the United Way exhibits is a propensity to appropriate donates for their own personal use.
14 posted on 11/13/2003 8:01:26 AM PST by OldFriend (DEMS INHABIT A PARALLEL UNIVERSE)
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To: OldFriend
Ooops, make that appropriate donations....
15 posted on 11/13/2003 8:02:08 AM PST by OldFriend (DEMS INHABIT A PARALLEL UNIVERSE)
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To: ladtx
Austin is the Berkely of Texas. The Commies, who reside there, are out of the Texas mainstream.
16 posted on 11/13/2003 8:04:04 AM PST by Kuksool
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To: will1776
http://www.journalism.indiana.edu/Ethics/ties.html

In short, United Way's leaders had decided to pump millions more dollars into fund-raising expenses after enduring several disappointing carnpaigns. This meant spending more of every contribution on advertising, on courting wealthy donors, and on broadening the base of corporate support. United Way's annual allocation to its own operating costs increased 61 percent in five years. It was a big change for an organization which prided itself on minimal overhead costs.

United Way officials were candid in discussing this shift in strategy. They were less eager to discuss the president's $124,000 salary, free car and paid country club membership. Nor were they eager to discuss the lavish renovation of United Way's headquarters which included a $3,700 sun patio, a $3,000 reception desk, $5,800 for 68 plants and another $135 a month for a firm to water the plants.

17 posted on 11/13/2003 8:04:27 AM PST by Lijahsbubbe ("I'm not going to have some reporters pawing through our papers We are the president." -Hilary)
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To: Lijahsbubbe
The United Way has been a terrible charity for decades. Scandals and operating costs not to mention leftist nonsense.
18 posted on 11/13/2003 8:04:31 AM PST by Protagoras (Hating Democrats doesn't make you a conservative.)
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To: will1776
I live in Austin and had heard about this. Our company had passed out United way forms again for this year and yes they push for 100% participation. I "reget" to say our store was not at 100% this year.

We have about 18 employees and three (plus possibly 2 more) chose not to support extortion.

When people get an explanation, some actually actually wake up.
19 posted on 11/13/2003 8:04:47 AM PST by Texaspeptoman
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To: will1776
The United Way is a fundraising tool for left-wing groups.
20 posted on 11/13/2003 8:06:00 AM PST by Kuksool
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